Hadriel

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  Korean News : CoC in Korean

  by AntiEntropy in

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  hi bros.. after my father's publishing his book, "15 questions after 40 years of jw" , many ex-jw bros in korea became motivated to rush to the coc korean project.

  however any secular project needs a fund eventhough it's a not-for-profit.

  fortunately, a bunch of bros decided to donate generously $300~$7,000 to this unprofitable business.

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  Hadriel

  @jookbeard you are being ignorant.

  Jook edit the new revision from Ray, create a cover, translated it into several languages and post your results here tomorrow morning.

  you have your assignment go...you have 24 hours.
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  Korean News : CoC in Korean

  by AntiEntropy in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hi bros.. after my father's publishing his book, "15 questions after 40 years of jw" , many ex-jw bros in korea became motivated to rush to the coc korean project.

  however any secular project needs a fund eventhough it's a not-for-profit.

  fortunately, a bunch of bros decided to donate generously $300~$7,000 to this unprofitable business.

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  Hadriel

  @Anti I knew about it many weeks perhaps months ago. I do like the cover for sure :)

  @jookbeard many offered to help but didn't even realize there was a revised version from Ray. None of you knew that. So all the PDF's etc weren't even the latest thing.

  I couldn't disclose that as I was asked not to, as it needed to be verified and organized which takes time.

  So a temporary print run of an out of date copy isn't the answer no matter how many offered.

  My apology again on behalf of Deb that these last months have gone by and it isn't quite wrapped yet. Organizing a world wide printing endeavor is not easy. I wish more could see that.
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  Korean News : CoC in Korean

  by AntiEntropy in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hi bros.. after my father's publishing his book, "15 questions after 40 years of jw" , many ex-jw bros in korea became motivated to rush to the coc korean project.

  however any secular project needs a fund eventhough it's a not-for-profit.

  fortunately, a bunch of bros decided to donate generously $300~$7,000 to this unprofitable business.

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  Hadriel

  @jookbeard please write a book so I can exploit the heck out of it where legally possible or where copyrights are not upheld. Maybe then you'll understand.

  I don't get why this is so hard. The CPH could never publish it and I'd still stand behind that decision. Someone else's property is someone else's property. We simply don't have a right to it regardless of our personal feelings on the matter one way or the other. It's an absolute. Cut and dry.
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  Going to meetings to "save face."

  by Darkknight757 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  going to make this short and sweet but i need some advise again and i kinda need to vent a bit so sorry.😢.

  so it has been weeks since the wife and i have been to meetings.

  it has been nothing short of wonderful!!!

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  Hadriel

  ..full disclosure.the condoning part is for sure a real thing and something that gets my goose too. I can't deny that

  for this very reason I've said to one of my fam who has an idea of what's going on that you can't just take the good and ignore the rest because some day it will effect you and two you're inadvertently condoning these harmful invasions on other's lives whether you acknowledge it or not.
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  Going to meetings to "save face."

  by Darkknight757 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  going to make this short and sweet but i need some advise again and i kinda need to vent a bit so sorry.😢.

  so it has been weeks since the wife and i have been to meetings.

  it has been nothing short of wonderful!!!

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  Hadriel

  LOL @Dark bro I'm not that tough. We're just trying to cope nothing more
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  Korean News : CoC in Korean

  by AntiEntropy in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hi bros.. after my father's publishing his book, "15 questions after 40 years of jw" , many ex-jw bros in korea became motivated to rush to the coc korean project.

  however any secular project needs a fund eventhough it's a not-for-profit.

  fortunately, a bunch of bros decided to donate generously $300~$7,000 to this unprofitable business.

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  Hadriel

  @jookbeard is right waiting several months to get a world wide publishing effort organized is too much to ask. Brilliant logic.

  It's like saying well If I wait for you to sell your house it will be an eternity.I'll just sell it for you and reap the rewards. Such backward cavalier logic with someone else's property.
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  Going to meetings to "save face."

  by Darkknight757 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  going to make this short and sweet but i need some advise again and i kinda need to vent a bit so sorry.😢.

  so it has been weeks since the wife and i have been to meetings.

  it has been nothing short of wonderful!!!

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  Hadriel

  ...then that's exactly how you should handle it Dark.

  for us and without outing myself our families are so deeply intertwined at the highest of levels of this thing it would create a title wave miles long. Just not an option for me so I do my best to find a way to deal with it all.

  If not for that I'd be completely gone myself but alas I don't have that option so I make do.
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  Korean News : CoC in Korean

  by AntiEntropy in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hi bros.. after my father's publishing his book, "15 questions after 40 years of jw" , many ex-jw bros in korea became motivated to rush to the coc korean project.

  however any secular project needs a fund eventhough it's a not-for-profit.

  fortunately, a bunch of bros decided to donate generously $300~$7,000 to this unprofitable business.

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  Hadriel

  This email from 2001 is not an endorsement.

  I can tell you though COC will not be published where copyright laws are upheld without it being funneled through Deb's publishing company*.

  * unless she's changed her mind in the last 14 days. :)
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  Going to meetings to "save face."

  by Darkknight757 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  going to make this short and sweet but i need some advise again and i kinda need to vent a bit so sorry.😢.

  so it has been weeks since the wife and i have been to meetings.

  it has been nothing short of wonderful!!!

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  Hadriel

  ...and lastly you should do whatever best fits your personal conscience. For me it is a means to an end to prevent any inquisition. However it can feel too like you're condoning things. it's a balancing act you have to sort out for yourself. You should be supported regardless of how you go about it as no one I mean NO ONE should have to go through any of it.
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  Going to meetings to "save face."

  by Darkknight757 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  going to make this short and sweet but i need some advise again and i kinda need to vent a bit so sorry.😢.

  so it has been weeks since the wife and i have been to meetings.

  it has been nothing short of wonderful!!!

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  Hadriel

  I wouldn't get too caught up in it. We're doing much the same. Nearly the identical situation.

  Here's how we look at it. The sprinkling in attendance for us is not for anyone else or because I'm compelled to do so. It diffuses the situation.

  Lastly, have fun with it while you're there!. Believe it or not there are things that you can say that will rattle those that pressure you where you can almost let them know I'm not buying this mess anymore but at the same time they can't pin it on you.

  I'll give you an example I had happen not too long ago. A brother who is the type that is always putting on the guilt trip was gloating at how the organization is so exacting regarding the date of Jesus memorial.

  I replied casually with..."you know I've always wondered how that works out given that us celebrating the memorial on the 23rd of March, would make it impossible for the Festival of Tabernacles, a holiday Jesus attended, be celebrated on the date commanded in Leviticus 23".

  Now I've done a ton of research on this topic and so I'm rather certain of it all. There was no place he could go that I wasn't prepared for. The look on this brother's face when I said this...priceless. He wanted to lash out but I asked it in such a humble I don't understand way but with naming scriptures and pointing out this festival was clearly important to Jesus what could he say?

  He replied with..."well I'm sure they have people a lot smarter than you and I at Bethel. I said well they certainly have the time for study since we forego college...what a blessing". See I took what he said and made a subtle dig that none of them are college educated.

  I've gotten to the point now where it is just so easy to say things in a way that they can't pin anything on you but you can make them think...and think hard.

  When you're armed with truth there's not much they can do in the pressure department. Just try to form it in the form of a question. Make a game out of it.

  By the way this is not my tactic. I can't take credit for the "make a game out of it" mentality. Another ex'er told me this when I first awoke. It has been fantastic for me as I too get pretty bummed out with it all myself.

  So have fun with it especially with those that take the hardline, pressuring you with guilt! It will actually give you a chuckle.