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  Marking Talk of Couple

  by Hadriel in

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  at no time did the elders ever mention apostasy.

  days later after a shepherding call which only covered child abuse handling they are being marked as if they are trying to get their own followers etc.

  so so sad.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ktm7fsqwrw.

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  Hadriel

  At no time did the elders ever mention apostasy. Not once. Days later after a shepherding call which ONLY covered child abuse handling they are being marked as if they are trying to get their own followers etc.

  So so sad...

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Ktm7fsqWrw
  
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  Evolution: The Deal Breaker

  by Hadriel in

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  first off i do believe there are some evidences of evolution or i should probably say adaptation.

  i do believe this exists in various forms.. however the deal breaker for me with evolution is the chick or egg problem.

  there are tons of theories that get passed around as proof of evolution however these are usually examples much further down the evolutionary chain.. what i mean is let's start at the beginning!

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  Just so you guys know I believe it to be rather convenient to not want to concede that because you can't explain the driver or abiogenesis that somehow it doesn't matter.

  It does because if that catalyst was intelligent then you'd be left with intelligence cause evolutionary results.

  Creationism has the very same problem. If you can't solve that puzzle you can't disprove that a single cataclysmic event cause a reactionary event which resulted in the chain of evolution starting.

  if there was a reasonable explanation for self replicating RNA it might be more clear however as it stands there's simply no such animal unless I'm missing something.
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  Evolution: The Deal Breaker

  by Hadriel in

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  first off i do believe there are some evidences of evolution or i should probably say adaptation.

  i do believe this exists in various forms.. however the deal breaker for me with evolution is the chick or egg problem.

  there are tons of theories that get passed around as proof of evolution however these are usually examples much further down the evolutionary chain.. what i mean is let's start at the beginning!

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  No. Those of us who accept the fact of evolution have a testable answer that explains the last 3.8 billion years of life on earth.

  ...and I get this but if intelligence initiated life you must conclude that the evolution that ensued could very well be a result of that design.

  In other words this proof could be proof of life by happenstance or by design.

  Without the important piece of the initial driver I don't see how anyone can be absolute.
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  Evolution: The Deal Breaker

  by Hadriel in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  first off i do believe there are some evidences of evolution or i should probably say adaptation.

  i do believe this exists in various forms.. however the deal breaker for me with evolution is the chick or egg problem.

  there are tons of theories that get passed around as proof of evolution however these are usually examples much further down the evolutionary chain.. what i mean is let's start at the beginning!

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  As I admitted earlier that there are a minimum evidences of adaptation, even evolution.

  however does evolution begin without abiogenesis? No it does not.

  As such we simply can't definitively say whether evolution was kickstarted by some random event or by an intelligent being.

  How those amino acids to proteins to protein chains were charged is important. To me it is not wanting to admit the obvious.

  In a sense creationists and evolutionists have the same damn problem. Proof of the driver that started it all.
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  Evolution: The Deal Breaker

  by Hadriel in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  first off i do believe there are some evidences of evolution or i should probably say adaptation.

  i do believe this exists in various forms.. however the deal breaker for me with evolution is the chick or egg problem.

  there are tons of theories that get passed around as proof of evolution however these are usually examples much further down the evolutionary chain.. what i mean is let's start at the beginning!

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  @anders It does bug me that when don't know what this driver is. If proteins suddenly began to chain ultimately kickstarting life as we know it, not knowing the driver that started this reaction leaves us with a dilemma in my mind.

  That being this driver could be an intelligent creator or it could be some unknown reactionary event. Either way you slice it you cannot say definitively either way.

  We may not know in my life time, in fact I'm rather certain we wont.
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  Any thought behind your " Avatar"

  by The Rebel in

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  i think that's the correct phrase?

  anyway when i first came here, that little picture that "the rebel" hides behind, was a self portrait of a very sad man, who simply had too much knowledge.

  now i feel after 7 months here, i should repaint that " avetor" give some happiness to the eyes, and a contented smile to the lips.. in short my " avetor" was a self portrait of a man with too much knowledge.

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  ...use ur brain.
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  Going Back To Meeting Tomorrow

  by Hadriel in

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  i'm returning to jehovah tomorrow night.

  but yeah i'm going to the meeting to put in my token visit as part of my fade.

  even if you don't believe in god pray that i can keep my mouth shut for a couple of hours because it's going to be awfully hard to do so.. before i woke i was quite involved, commented a ton, personable.

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  @Crazy ain't that the truth of it.
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  Going Back To Meeting Tomorrow

  by Hadriel in

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  i'm returning to jehovah tomorrow night.

  but yeah i'm going to the meeting to put in my token visit as part of my fade.

  even if you don't believe in god pray that i can keep my mouth shut for a couple of hours because it's going to be awfully hard to do so.. before i woke i was quite involved, commented a ton, personable.

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  Just so you guys know I already have a plan to jack with a few of them. it should be quite fun.
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  Proof God Does NOT Exist

  by Hadriel in

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  o.k.

  here's just a little fun, you guys can run with it.. if god existed would he allow the whacktower to be in business?

  just sayin... lol.

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  @Crazy fair point. On a more personal level something that concerns me is with the 4000 plus religions in the world people are expected to find the right one. Rather tough task.
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  Going Back To Meeting Tomorrow

  by Hadriel in

  1. jw
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  i'm returning to jehovah tomorrow night.

  but yeah i'm going to the meeting to put in my token visit as part of my fade.

  even if you don't believe in god pray that i can keep my mouth shut for a couple of hours because it's going to be awfully hard to do so.. before i woke i was quite involved, commented a ton, personable.

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  I'm returning to Jehovah tomorrow night. NOT!

  But yeah I'm going to the meeting to put in my token visit as part of my fade. Even if you don't believe in God pray that I can keep my mouth shut for a couple of hours because it's going to be awfully hard to do so.

  Before I woke I was quite involved, commented a ton, personable. I haven't been in a while now so this should be interesting.

  If it wouldn't out me I'd record it and document the love bombing which I'm sure is about to commence.