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  What do you make of this recent article regarding the United Nations stance towards overriding religions of the world on certain matters?

  by devout_no_more in

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  first of all, this is my first post here on the forums even though i have been registered now for some time.

  i have been faded from the jehovah's witness religion for many years now, but only recently within the past year or so gotten quite serious about it - crisis of conscience by ramond franz really kicked things off for me personally.. anyway, my wife, parents, step-sister and her husband and my half-brother are all still active jw's, so i am still exposed to them, and this is also the reason why i'm still "faded".

  frankly i'd probably just as soon disassociate myself without the threat of being shunned.

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  devout_no_more

  As it is...my wife is sitting in the other room attending a "Zoom" meeting as I write.
  
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  What do you make of this recent article regarding the United Nations stance towards overriding religions of the world on certain matters?

  by devout_no_more in

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  first of all, this is my first post here on the forums even though i have been registered now for some time.

  i have been faded from the jehovah's witness religion for many years now, but only recently within the past year or so gotten quite serious about it - crisis of conscience by ramond franz really kicked things off for me personally.. anyway, my wife, parents, step-sister and her husband and my half-brother are all still active jw's, so i am still exposed to them, and this is also the reason why i'm still "faded".

  frankly i'd probably just as soon disassociate myself without the threat of being shunned.

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  devout_no_more

  Thanks everyone. I don't actually lose any sleep that maybe they're right...that one got me wondering a little bit, however, although I did see the points discussed by Anders that seemed perfectly logical to me that these are protections and it makes tons of sense not to allow religion as an excuse for violence.

  I'm pretty sure it was me thinking that originally the WT decided that the UN was the "wild beast" of Revelation, in part, because it was like a man-made representation of God's Kingdom or some such nonsense. None of that really made sense to me, but the article got me wondering a little bit and I felt the need to get in touch with some like-minded individuals (you all) and get some further input.

  Thanks for the welcome and insights!
  
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  What do you make of this recent article regarding the United Nations stance towards overriding religions of the world on certain matters?

  by devout_no_more in

  1. social
  2. current

  first of all, this is my first post here on the forums even though i have been registered now for some time.

  i have been faded from the jehovah's witness religion for many years now, but only recently within the past year or so gotten quite serious about it - crisis of conscience by ramond franz really kicked things off for me personally.. anyway, my wife, parents, step-sister and her husband and my half-brother are all still active jw's, so i am still exposed to them, and this is also the reason why i'm still "faded".

  frankly i'd probably just as soon disassociate myself without the threat of being shunned.

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  devout_no_more

  First of all, this is my first post here on the forums even though I have been registered now for some time. I have been faded from the Jehovah's Witness religion for many years now, but only recently within the past year or so gotten quite serious about it - Crisis of Conscience by Ramond Franz really kicked things off for me personally.

  Anyway, my wife, parents, step-sister and her husband and my half-brother are all still active JW's, so I am still exposed to them, and this is also the reason why I'm still "faded". Frankly I'd probably just as soon disassociate myself without the threat of being shunned. However, until then...I suppose I'll be exposed to certain amounts of it.

  A well meaning friend recently pointed out this article (or one like it) to me: https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/mar/10/united-nations-is-coming-for-your-religion/ and it made me wonder about the JW stance on the United Nations being the "Wild Beast" of Revelation and how they've long preached that someday the United Nations would destroy the religions of the earth, before the "Great Tribulation".

  I'm looking for other views on this aside from what's going on inside my own mind. All I can say is that the indoctrination is strong - I was baptized originally in 1988, so over 30 years ago. During that time I was a "regular pioneer" and a "ministerial servant". I've been raised around it since I was about 5-years-old. So my indoctrinated brain sees things like this and can't help but wonder.

  Hopefully what I write and how I'm trying to ask this question makes enough sense - I work 12-hour-shifts at a hospital and therefore there has been no "shelter in place" for me. I'm feeling pretty tired at the moment. Thanks!
  
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  What Books Have You Read That Been Critical Of The Jehovah's Witnesses?

  by The Bethelite in

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  please rate your top choices .

  1. crises of conscience.

  ray franz.

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  Crisis of Conscience and most of The Gentile Times Reconsidered by Carl Olof Jonsson so far. Also...even thought it's not a book I'm a huge fan of the John Cedars (Lloyd Evans) channel of YouTube.