Posts by elbib

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True God would not seek praise nor worship from us

by elbib in

when asked: “why there is so much of suffering here if god exists?” buddha responded with silence because he knew the following:.

1) even though living in heaven, anyone can live as though he lives in hell and vice versa which means how a person thinks is the key.

experience show that whatever a person does with 100% involvement (totality = beauty), it is like he lives in heaven.

elbib

Cold Steel,

Matter is not complicated; it is human writers who made it complicated. Jesus made it very simple: “Be perfect as your heavenly Father is perfect.” (Mathew 5:48) He was talking to people who knew very well that they would die some day in the future. Hence death is not something that makes you imperfect. According to Jesus, if you imitate our Heavenly Father in His unconditional love, you are perfect. This is what the preceding verses of Mat 5:48 imply. And when you manifest unconditional love, you are the beneficiary—you feel you are already in heaven; and you never look for gratitude from the recipient of your unconditional love. You continue to feel good even when recipient of your unconditional love turns against you with ingratitude.

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True God would not seek praise nor worship from us

by elbib in

when asked: “why there is so much of suffering here if god exists?” buddha responded with silence because he knew the following:.

1) even though living in heaven, anyone can live as though he lives in hell and vice versa which means how a person thinks is the key.

experience show that whatever a person does with 100% involvement (totality = beauty), it is like he lives in heaven.

elbib

Heaven,

This is called "secular humanism" in which one naturally feels to love another just because of the unmistakable realization that all are human beings--it is a love for its own sake (not because somebody exists to force us to do so, not because of the thought of getting something in return....There is a great feeling when you do good for its own sake)

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True God would not seek praise nor worship from us

by elbib in

when asked: “why there is so much of suffering here if god exists?” buddha responded with silence because he knew the following:.

1) even though living in heaven, anyone can live as though he lives in hell and vice versa which means how a person thinks is the key.

experience show that whatever a person does with 100% involvement (totality = beauty), it is like he lives in heaven.

elbib

Cold Steel,

Fall is not a one-time event nor a universal event. It happens with many, and it does not happen with many.

Feeling more important than others is the fall and this is the root cause of all problems. If one refuses to feel more important than others, he would remain as firm as a mountain against fall. And refusal to feel more important than others is very much possible "if one wants to" even now.

Interestingly, if one feels more important than others, his children may or may not copy that attitude. (Contrast Romans 5:12)

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True God would not seek praise nor worship from us

by elbib in

when asked: “why there is so much of suffering here if god exists?” buddha responded with silence because he knew the following:.

1) even though living in heaven, anyone can live as though he lives in hell and vice versa which means how a person thinks is the key.

experience show that whatever a person does with 100% involvement (totality = beauty), it is like he lives in heaven.

elbib

Island Man,

"the desire to be thanked and praised stems from pride and egotism" is absolutely right. Hence God of the Bible is the creation of man--the same puny human who invented the story of Lot's having sex with his own daughters ... David's adultery and murder yet being forgiven whereas a man who gathered firewood on Sabbath was given capital punishment ...

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Thoughts

by thinker11 in

as much as i want to believe in the bible and wish for a god that is watching over us and love us; i find it difficult to comprehend that a loving god will erase mankind with fireballs, earthquakes, and kill childrens, mothers, and fathers who refused to believe in the bible.

and i can’t help but to take their side in all these.

i mean: what has god really done to show that he is love and that he exists and is watching how we act.

elbib

When you take the details, it is digestible whereas the substratum of the Bible makes no sense. When Jerusalem was captured and its temple was burned by pagan king in 586 BCE (or 607?), it was a theological crisis for the Jews. Then a concept of Messiah (King-Priest) who will restore everything was evolved. When the messiah was murdered, it was further evolved into a teaching of ransom (as a sacrifice arranged by the “loving” Heavenly Father for the atonement of sins of mankind). Not a true picture of God Almighty

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UFO's might be real.and what does it mean if they are?

by atomant in

for some reason this subject has not received much attention over the years which surprises me.theres many conspiracy theories floating around on the internet and lve done my fair share of due diligence on the matter.the school is still out on this one.l find it very hard to believe humans are the only intelligent beings out there.has anyone on this forum ever seen a ufo or experienced a close encounter?

elbib

The very fact that life exists in one part of the universe should necessarily mean that life could be found in other parts too, and there are many universes too.

opusdei1972's question is very relevant!

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True God would not seek praise nor worship from us

by elbib in

when asked: “why there is so much of suffering here if god exists?” buddha responded with silence because he knew the following:.

1) even though living in heaven, anyone can live as though he lives in hell and vice versa which means how a person thinks is the key.

experience show that whatever a person does with 100% involvement (totality = beauty), it is like he lives in heaven.

elbib

stillin,

You expressed it better than I could.

Whatever ideas we have about God is all imagination of people like us. God seems to want us to enjoy surprises--to come to our own conclusion.

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True God would not seek praise nor worship from us

by elbib in

when asked: “why there is so much of suffering here if god exists?” buddha responded with silence because he knew the following:.

1) even though living in heaven, anyone can live as though he lives in hell and vice versa which means how a person thinks is the key.

experience show that whatever a person does with 100% involvement (totality = beauty), it is like he lives in heaven.

elbib

When asked: “Why there is so much of suffering here if God exists?” Buddha responded with silence because he knew the following:

1) Even though living in heaven, anyone can live as though he lives in hell and vice versa which means how a person thinks is the key. Experience show that whatever a person does with 100% involvement (totality = beauty), it is like he lives in heaven. It means God is not a factor in one’s life nor in his enjoyment.

2) God is not interested in our praise or worship. It is the limitedness of one’s mind that looks for gratitude or praise from others. Fruit-bearing trees that live for others shows their designer (God) is agape (unconditional love—1 John 4:8). No Agape is possible without recipient. That means it is God who feels grateful—not the other way around. Hence True God would not seek praise nor worship from others (just like no liar is possible without a listener who consistently refuses to listen to untruth). If He is not interested in praise, He will not respond to attempts to discredit Him either. Loving fellow humans amounts to loving God (1 John 4:20) which means God is not a factor in true worship also.

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According to the Bible, GB is committing an unforgivable sin

by elbib in

“the soul that does something deliberately [footnote says “with uplifted hand”] whether he is native or an alien resident, he speaking abusively of jehovah’s word, in that case that soul should be cut off from among his people.” (numbers 15:30).

according to this verse, acting with “high-handedness” and “speaking abusively of jehovah’s word” constitute disfellowshipping offence.

1) “high-handedness” is something that jws themselves silently experience from jb, hence require no witness or proof.

elbib

Ucantnome,

Good point---They cannot be true even to their own name: Witness. they don't even know what they are saying. They just put Satan above God (impossible) who wants to come out of the imaginary Issue of Sovereignty, and still cannot even after Satan was proved a liar millennia ago (again something impossible)

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According to the Bible, GB is committing an unforgivable sin

by elbib in

“the soul that does something deliberately [footnote says “with uplifted hand”] whether he is native or an alien resident, he speaking abusively of jehovah’s word, in that case that soul should be cut off from among his people.” (numbers 15:30).

according to this verse, acting with “high-handedness” and “speaking abusively of jehovah’s word” constitute disfellowshipping offence.

1) “high-handedness” is something that jws themselves silently experience from jb, hence require no witness or proof.

elbib

“The soul that does something deliberately [footnote says “with uplifted hand”] whether he is native or an alien resident, he speaking abusively of Jehovah’s word, in that case that soul should be cut off from among his people.” (Numbers 15:30)

According to this verse, acting with “high-handedness” and “speaking abusively of Jehovah’s word” constitute disfellowshipping offence.

1) “High-handedness” is something that JWs themselves silently experience from JB, hence require no witness or proof.

2) Projecting Jehovah as a beggar by profusely applying Proverb 27:11 to Him, and presenting Jehovah as trying to please Satan endlessly to win the (imaginary) Issue of Universal Sovereignty, GB is also “speaking abusively of Jehovah’s word.” Interestingly, Issue of Universal Sovereignty never figured in Jesus’ teachings. If such an issue really did exist, Jesus would have used all his superhuman skills to present that teaching to the world with paramount importance!!!

3) By teaching that God Almighty felt ‘challenged and taunted’ by one of His own creatures is “sinning against holy spirit” which according to Jesus is an unforgivable sin in this system of things and in that to come. (Mathew 12:32)