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  Name Things That "Prove" JWs Have The "Truth".

  by minimus in

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  ....this could be interesting.....

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  About 20 years ago I was in a woman's home and the subject of religion came up. She brought out a stack of books that were to help "prove from the Bible" that her religion was the true one. I think she was Presbyterian.

  Recently a guy I know who was 7th Day Adventist but inactive for years, started in with scriptures to prove that it is the right religion.

  Before we got sucked into the cult, I was Lutheran and my husband was Catholic. I remember thinking about that and realizing that we could not both be right, but we could both be wrong. 30 years later we realized that as JW cultists, we were still wrong.

  We did think it was "The Truth" simply because it could be proved from the Bible. Now I see that you can prove from the Bible that Mickey Mouse is God if you use the right scriptures and use them out of context and "explain" their meaning to back up your claim. The Bible is just a comic book without pictures.

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  Could use some advice

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  could you guys give me some advice?...

  i may or may not vote..i was wondering if it really would be "being part of the world" to vote??.

  i know what the witnesses' take on it is, but i won't base my decision on that.

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  Missy

  It sounds like you have found a real comfortable fence to sit on. Either you are a JW and swallow the cult crap hook, line and sinker, or guess what? You are "worldly"! I know the dubs make that sound like you are in league with Satan, but do you not believe that Jehovah created the world? That being so, why would you not want any part of it? Why would you not want a say in how things affect you? Are you not ready to flip the ON switch and start thinking and stop letting a bunch of old men do it for you? You are not in Oz anymore Dorothy. This is reality. Your life is your responsibility. You are not a kid anymore. You may not be ready to vote this time around, but you sure are ready to start learning what it is all about.

  Another thing, the WTS wants you to think that the other side of the fence, the "world", is all darkness, when in fact, it is a beautiful sunrise over here.

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  I voted today!

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  they were holding early voting today so i decided to go in and cast my vote.. i normally like to do early voting because it is held on the weekend and there are usually no lines.

  not today!

  the line went out the door and along a wall for about 75 feet.

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  We voted for the first time. Seems odd since we are in our mid 50s. Did it by mail.

  On the news last week they said they had done a poll of the children. They have been doing it every election and the last 4 elections the kids have been right. I would suspect the children vote the same way as their parents. The winner this time? Kerry/Edwards. Smart kids.

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  New forum for those that keep all kinds of 'critters'

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  a pet forum has recently started that has sections for everythig from amphibians to ferrets to birds to fish to cats & dogs to horses, etc.. http:www.petchat.org.

  let's see if some of us with exotic (& not so exotic) pets can help this new board get 'off the ground'.. talley/judy

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  Looks like a place where I will feel at home. thanks Judy

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  Were You Delighted When An Elder/M.S./Pioneer Got Into Trouble W/Elders???

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  jws are a self-righteous bunch!-------- do you remember when an elder or so-called "mature one" would get into some trouble and either get "disciplined" or "deleted" and the reaction in the hall?

  some used to gloat over a big-shot getting into trouble with the elders or circuit overseer.

  or the gossip mill would just be buzzing over seeing someone going into the "backroom" with 2 or 3 elders.....do you remember those days???

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  But the one that gave me the most satisfaction was what happened concerning one of the elders who sat on the Judical Committee that disfellowshipped me. He did not like it when I was reinstated and continued to shun me. Well, his daughter got caught in an affair with her sister's husband, an MS. Daddy had to step down, daughter was disfellowshipped and son-in-law was reproved and lost his priviledges (he was best buddy with the PO). Shortly after the son-in-law got his priviledges back, it came out that the affair was never over and they were still at it. Whoa! He got disfellowshipped that time! But in time. he did become an elder ( did I mention best buddies with the PO?) So that took Daddy down a few notches and got his nose out of the air. Yep, I did feel good about that one. Some kind of Payback, I think.

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  Were You Delighted When An Elder/M.S./Pioneer Got Into Trouble W/Elders???

  by minimus in

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  jws are a self-righteous bunch!-------- do you remember when an elder or so-called "mature one" would get into some trouble and either get "disciplined" or "deleted" and the reaction in the hall?

  some used to gloat over a big-shot getting into trouble with the elders or circuit overseer.

  or the gossip mill would just be buzzing over seeing someone going into the "backroom" with 2 or 3 elders.....do you remember those days???

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  The event that amused me the most was quite some years ago, an arrogant, self righteous and judgemental MS on his way to being an elder, was giving a talk in the school at the Circuit Assembly. He made the statement in his talk that Jesus was OUR mediator. The school overseer took him to task and corrected him about the mediatorship being between Jesus and the 144,000-this in front of the whole assembly. The following week at the KH during the Watchtower study his wife brought it up and gave the correct answer, in such a fashion that we were to all understand that they have it right now and are not promoting a wrong understanding. He saw to it that he was never wrong again about anything. That way he could properly judge everyone else. I just wish I had been sitting where I could have seen his face when he got that counsel.

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  It is a miracle-I'm back after 2 years

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  i used to post here 3 years ago but then all of a sudden i could not get logged on.

  i tried e-mailing about the problem but got no answer.

  so i have been lurking for the last couple of years and have tried from time to time to log on with no luck.

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  Thanks guys, for the welcome back. Link, I will try your suggestion. If you never see me again, you will know I got locked out again

  KLS, Milwaukee is kind of a big place. I was there when I started studying, but got baptized in Oconomowoc. From there I moved to Watertown.

  I do have some stories to tell. The kind the dubs would rather no one knew about

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  It is a miracle-I'm back after 2 years

  by target in

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  i used to post here 3 years ago but then all of a sudden i could not get logged on.

  i tried e-mailing about the problem but got no answer.

  so i have been lurking for the last couple of years and have tried from time to time to log on with no luck.

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  I used to post here 3 years ago but then all of a sudden I could not get logged on. I tried e-mailing about the problem but got no answer. So I have been lurking for the last couple of years and have tried from time to time to log on with no luck. Today, by some miracle, it suddenly worked!

  Most of the posters here do not know me and the rest most likely do not remember me. I have been faded for 4 years now. Had the good fortune to move to another state and when the congregation sent our records, they sent them to the wrong hall/ wrong city. No one knows where we are. Husband left with me. Our only son, raised a JW and his wife-raised a JW- left when the UN thing broke. Her mother is a die-hard dub yet. So I do not have any horror stories to tell, just that we were controlled by a cult for 30 years.

  I do have this to say, though. When we were doing "the preaching work", we were always taught that we were "planting seeds" even if it did not appear to be working. Well, I can list "seeds of doubt" that go all the way back to the beginning. I just kept filing them away, but never forgot them. I remember the first piece of "apostate literature" I got outside my first assembly in Milwaukee Wisconsin when I was first studying. The pile of doubts got pretty high, and then came the study article about the king of the north. That was the turning point for me. After that it was just a matter of waiting for the right time and opportunity to jump ship. My point is, you may think the die-hard dub is not listening when you reason with them, but you may be planting a lot more seeds than you ever thought.

  It is nice to be back, now that someone left the door unlocked for me

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  Diapers A Threat To National Security!

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  we have an internet business selling organic baby diapers and other baby things.

  we had a shipment from sweden delivered by air born.

  it was diaper covers, swim diapers and rice paper liners for diapers.

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  A couple of days ago the cops rounded up 40 undocumented aliens here in Phoenix who had crossed the border the day before. They called INS to come and get them and INS said they did not have time-they were too busy watching the border. The very next day the same thing happened and again the INS was too busy to come see who these people were and what they were up to so the police let them go. Again, they said they were too busy watching the border. It is a big f*****g joke! People from anywhere in the world can walk right across that border and yet we should feel secure because the customs department wants to keep my shipment of diaper covers.

  And if the government felt that their security depended on them taking away your livelyhood, would you still feel so damn secure? If you spent two years building a business and now found yourself losing your customers to businesses that were fortunate enough to get their shipments last week, would you be so damn happy?

  Don't think this whole war mess can't come back and bite you too-there are a lot of ways to pay for it. Some bigger than others.

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  Diapers A Threat To National Security!

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  we have an internet business selling organic baby diapers and other baby things.

  we had a shipment from sweden delivered by air born.

  it was diaper covers, swim diapers and rice paper liners for diapers.

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  LOL @ Sargon! Now you are a logical thinker!

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