"There are various factions of Mormons, just like there are multiple
factions of Millerites. Ba’hai, Seventh Day Adventist, JW, Bible
Students etc are to Millerism what LDS, FLDS, Firstborn, Reorganized etc
are for Mormons."
I'm talking about the main branch. The one with the giant temple in Salt Lake City and the ones who founded and now sponsor Brigham Young University.
I agree that the FLDS crazies who live out in the desert with 50 wives dressed like little house on the prairie probably dont go to college ;)
BettyHumpter
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Do you think the JW's ever will or could go the Mormon route?
by BettyHumpter inwhat i mean is the mormon's have their own set of wacky beliefs and are a pretty insular group, engage in a form of door to door ministry but don't discourage higher education.
in fact, the handful of mormons i went to school with were pushed to excel academically and go to college.
yeah there are ex mormons but for a great many, going to university doesn't turn them into atheists.
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Do you think the JW's ever will or could go the Mormon route?
by BettyHumpter inwhat i mean is the mormon's have their own set of wacky beliefs and are a pretty insular group, engage in a form of door to door ministry but don't discourage higher education.
in fact, the handful of mormons i went to school with were pushed to excel academically and go to college.
yeah there are ex mormons but for a great many, going to university doesn't turn them into atheists.
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Why would JWs want to go the Mormon route. They already have a bigger more engaged following.
Only if there's money in it for the GB(TM).
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1985 and baptism...I wish I had read this before today
by enoughisenough ini am posting a link as to being legally bound to jw rules at time of baptism.
i only did a quick skim, but what i gathered is interesting, and what it says about 1985 may be of use to some hoping to just fade and not be bothered.
in 1985, the questions were changed at baptism for legal purposes so they could have causation to defend themselves should you decide to sue for whatever reason.
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"watched a video the other day of an old sister, who didn't go to the invited judicial meeting and later learned she had been df. The way I read it is those who got baptized 1985 and after unquittedly accepted a legal agreement with the JW-accepting the practices of JW".
I'm still not getting it. What legal remedy did a pre-1985 person have?And why would it matter? You can't sue someone into being friendly with you... -
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1985 and baptism...I wish I had read this before today
by enoughisenough ini am posting a link as to being legally bound to jw rules at time of baptism.
i only did a quick skim, but what i gathered is interesting, and what it says about 1985 may be of use to some hoping to just fade and not be bothered.
in 1985, the questions were changed at baptism for legal purposes so they could have causation to defend themselves should you decide to sue for whatever reason.
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What were they afraid of being sued for? It's not illegal to cut people out of your life. Was it the public announcement part? Defamation of character or something?
They don't care about the age of majority. They just want numbers and slaves.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened inoriginal reddit post (removed).
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I see. Yeah.
That makes this whole thing even weirder. Why did he even include the sentence "of those I met in Thailand, sex workers or otherwise?" Playing devil's advocate here...but assume he said that only to mean "I went to bars in Thailand and it's entirely possible that I said hello to someone who may have been a sex worker".
Still why would you even include that? If he had just left that comment out, all of this would have just been possibly a few people feeling it may not be right to use Patreon donations to fund a vacation. Probably very few would have cared. I know I have a few Podcasts that I donate to (completely unrelated to JW) and I don't expect or care to see an expense report from them. If the content started to be no good in relation to what I donate, i'd just stop.
LOL. I'm picturing Lloyd on the stand in a courtroom and prior to his testimony his lawyer had briefed him: "Short yes or no answers when possible. Dont perjure yourself, but also don't add additional details that don't directly apply to the question" And Lloyd just starts rambling on and on while his attorney slumps lower and lower in his chair. -
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened inoriginal reddit post (removed).
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I have not kept up with this whole Lloyd thing, but have picked up a few tidbits.
1.) He admittedly had a habit of sexting people in online chatrooms and forums
2.) He has admittedly paid for prostitutes on several occasions.3.) He took a trip to Thailand alone and there is a photo of him sitting at a table with a woman.
Is everyone just assuming that because 1 and 2 are true he must have been in Thailand as a sex tourist? Because in the tweet above, he appears to be denying that. Has he admitted elsewhere that he was indeed in Thailand for that purpose contradicting the above denial? -
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Do you think the JW's ever will or could go the Mormon route?
by BettyHumpter inwhat i mean is the mormon's have their own set of wacky beliefs and are a pretty insular group, engage in a form of door to door ministry but don't discourage higher education.
in fact, the handful of mormons i went to school with were pushed to excel academically and go to college.
yeah there are ex mormons but for a great many, going to university doesn't turn them into atheists.
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What I mean is the Mormon's have their own set of wacky beliefs and are a pretty insular group, engage in a form of door to door ministry but don't discourage higher education. In fact, the handful of Mormons I went to school with were pushed to excel academically and go to college. Yeah there are ex Mormons but for a great many, going to University doesn't turn them into atheists. They study biology, philosophy, physics etc. but still manage to keep believing in seer stones and a magical tophat, the planet Kolob and Jesus visiting the native americans. Cognitive dissonance and family ties are pretty powerful.
The main roadblock for the JW's is they'd have to lighten up on the 'end is coming soon' rhetoric. But on the other hand, engineers and doctors and lawyers have alot more money for the contribution box. -
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened inoriginal reddit post (removed).
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First Day of Returning to D2D Work
by Foolednomore inthis is the first day of the return to the d2d work, no one in the strip opened their doors or gates.
what a waste of time!.
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"just passed my local KH this morning…2 cars, maybe 3. Dismal"
Hasn't it always just been a handful during the week? Saturday was when you'd have a large group back when I was in.
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Does anyone know why the quote function doesnt always work?
by BettyHumpter inor perhaps i'm doing something wrong?
oftentimes if i try to quote someone so that it's highlighted in yellow, after i submit my comments, the quote remains but my comments are gone.
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"I find the best way to use the quote function is after you complete your post. Then go to the quoted parts, highlight them and then click on the quote function. That way you will not lose anything."
Yep, thats how I do it and it still deletes my comments alot of the time. Maybe its something to do with Firefox.