safe4kids,
so, you CLAIM that you can make a fruitcake that fit to eat?
HA!! I doubt it. Where's the proof? (uhmmm… email me to
get my address… ;-))
this is my first time posting anywhere.
thought i would say hi and i am enjoying reading everyone's comments and stories.. "plant your own garden and decorate your own soul, instead of waiting for someone to bring you flowers.
" -veronica a. shoffstall
safe4kids,
so, you CLAIM that you can make a fruitcake that fit to eat?
HA!! I doubt it. Where's the proof? (uhmmm… email me to
get my address… ;-))
yeah 200 yrs sounds a tad excessive..................but things are bigger and better in the us.....i guess it works for sentences as well.. sacramento, calif. (ap) -- a man who used tiger woods' identity to steal $17,000 worth of goods was sentenced to 200 years-to-life in prison.
anthony lemar taylor was convicted of falsely obtaining a driver's license using the name eldrick t. woods, woods' social security number and his birth date.
though he looks nothing like golf's best player, the 30-year-old taylor then used the false identification and credit cards to buy a 70-inch tv, stereos and a used luxury car between august 1998 and august 1999. .
I think we should all fart on him til he's dead. Joel! That was mean!!
Can you imagine dying that way? ok... it was funny, but mean.
i certainly hope all the independent thinking jezebels pay good attention to this one: http://www.witnessesonline.com/cgi-bin/cgiwrap/witnessesonline/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=18&t=000030.
suggestion to simon: before allowing the women to login on the new site, they should submit a pictures showing that their skirts are of approved length, i.e.
9 inches above the knee.. expatbrit
Expatbrit,
the only thing i see that's worse than them talking about
it is us reading about them talk about it.
peace,
tj
In 1963 a man blew up a church in Birmingham, Alabama, USA, killing
four innocent girls. Since then, what moved him to do what he gleefully did
has been identified and the sickness in his mind, the ugliness in his heart,
was made tangible in a sense. America has picked it up, turned it over,
looked at it from all sides and, since then, has shown not just a willingness
but a real effort to leave it behind, as well. Knowing the motivation is pivotal
in bringing an end to human evil.
Another bomber was executed today and people are breathing a sigh of
relief. I hope this is the last I ever say about it. Call him whatever names
you will and you will find no defender, no apologist, here. I know of no
words that can be used to excuse him. His heinous act was indefensible.
But…
...he was not an unreasonable man. He was not a crazed wacko. He had
a plan, carefully laid out, and executed it with military precision. For six
years he never cracked to show any regret or remorse for what he did.
He was a human being with human thoughts and emotions. Still, he died
with the deep conviction that he did the right thing despite the misery
he caused. Those close to him at the end feel certain that if he could do
it all over again, he would. So, I'm not resting so easy.
He is gone, but whatever "logical" reason that led him to do what he did
is still out there. The danger, I believe, is real, since the "cause" (as crazy
as it is to us) still lives, and those that embrace it are yet unidentified.
Somebody needs to figure out what that "cause" is, and the sooner the
better. If I knew, I'd surely tell them. Until the right people crack the code,
there remains a very real threat for what he did to happen all over again.
As we have seen -- again -- one person can bring an awful lot of pain to a
huge number of people, its anguish rippling out to encircle still many others.
this is a post i made that is burried inside another thread.
i thought i would make a new topic out of it in case someone wanted to add their thoughts to the subject.
this is how my post to farkel went:.
Good evening, Yadirf.
What exactly do you mean by "must meet the mule"?
A colloquialism that goes back to farming days -- "to meet the mule"
means to go to work.
I was in a bit of a hurry already and didn't have much time this a.m. I
asked who should reasonably be aware of and in the process of
investigating all the "what ifs"?
I asked because, in scanning through this morning, I read where you
said:
What if this "murderer" … had been part of a "gang" ... whereby he
… committed "murder" because of his participation…
…and, later…
But perhaps with the enlightenment that he has come by, after once
having studied the Bible,
Being somewhat familiar with your mindset and JW apologetics, in
my hurry I assumed I knew you were going. That's why I asked what
I did this a.m. Now, having more time to read your full post, I note
that you did opine that "there's no one here that knows any of the
details". For me, at least, this one phrase of yours lays to rest the
fairly widespread notion that you are NEVER reasonable. Will
wonders never cease!?
But then that goes back to my question this morning. We are fiddle
faddlers on a discussion board talking to and fro about matters we
know nothing about and will likely never know anything of the details,
so let's try sticking to just what's written in the elder's letter to
Brooklyn.
It's apparent that they knew that he was guilty of past felonies -- knew
enough to write for a solution to what was (to them) a puzzle. How
did they come to know? They don't say in the letter -- ergo, we don't
know. Want to speculate? Be my guest.
They do not comment in the letter what the circumstances were
surrounding those criminal acts. Did they or didn't they know, for
example, that he was in a gang? WHAT did they know (or not know)?
We do read the word "murders", plural. Now, how did they know
that? After sharing this letter with my sister, she called it "hearsay."
Was it hearsay, or did they KNOW?
We can speculate until our faces fall off. My question was and is: who
should be investigating the facts of the case? Some might say the
elders, but reason and years of past experience suggests (at least to
me) that the average elder body is ill-equipped to handle a matter
anywhere near approaching this magnitude.
But let's say the elder body in question are an exceptional bunch and
were able to investigate (while still not having enough wits to figure
out where to go from there). Let's go with your scenario (a silly one,
imo -- I can think of better ones): he was in a gang. He killed to stay
in the gang.
I'd have a question: would it matter? Would it make a difference?
Would their investigation that led to the fact that he was in a gang
rightfully bring to a fair and just conclusion to the matter?
My question -- who should be investigating -- was leading to the only
answer: Caesar. He's the one who should be handling this. And the
numbskulls in Brooklyn, living under the delusion that they really are
speaking for god, must equally believe that they are above the law.
They blindly guide the blind numbskulls in Florida, the same idiots to
whom countless sheep (they really are sheep) look for protection from
the dangers of satan's impure, godless world. Unbeknownst to these
hapless sheep, their vaunted Governing Body, Jehovah's One and Only
Mouthpiece, allows satan right in the door with open, welcoming
arms. He is even welcome to spew comments out of his blood-stained
mouth and share this comely truth with his goatish neighbors by being
free to share in the field ministry.
How truly sad. Ah, Jehovah's People aren't like they used to be. Not even
close.
peace,
todd
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"In order to preserve your self-respect, it is sometimes necessary to
lie and cheat."_______ Robert Byrne
this is a post i made that is burried inside another thread.
i thought i would make a new topic out of it in case someone wanted to add their thoughts to the subject.
this is how my post to farkel went:.
just scanned thru this thread (i must meet the mule) so i'll be brief
and will hopefully return here this p.m.
there's a lot that we don't know about the guy, but who should
reasonably be aware of and in the process of investigating all
the "what ifs"?
case closed.
folks, i know some of you feel a little peeved with the old h2o but i don't think you have been fair to the new one.
there is and will be a different attitude there and i have been assured of this by both rick and fd2.
i would like to encourage everyone here to cross post on h2o in the various forums .... let's make as many places as we can available for those who need support and questions answered .... theo nly wat to do that is let your past animosities go and think of those coming behind you.. if you have problems there then there is a forum you can post your complaints to and suggestiosn on what needs changing ... i just feel with the number of people here who could help those who come into h2o (and tishies board0 that we need to reach out a little more ..... go over and try it out folks and support others there too .......... http://www.aimoo.com/forum/freeboard.cfm?id=311102.
Prisca,
i'm going to go out on a limb and say that i'm
liking you more and more. what a reasonable,
fair response. you did that with Mulan earlier...
gave her some very good advice, i thought.
very good. very good.
it's not really, but, what can ya do?!.
i was just thinking, is matt 24:14 meant to be taken literally as the dubs do??.
that's my question, someone please answer..... chris.
now that i think about it, it REALLY depends on what
"this";
"good news";
"the kingdom";
"will be";
"preached";
"all of";
"the inhabited earth";
"all the nations";
"and then";
"the end";
"will";
"come";
means.
which part were you wondering about?
peace,
todd
are you angry?
disappointed?
disgusted with a corrupt.
Metatron,
I realize that others view this matter differently than I do for various
reasons, some of them very good, but I'm with you: don't play their
game and stay connected to those within, if even on the periphery, to
help as many out as you can. I've been fortunate in helping at least
two people, people I probably couldn't have reached if they had
viewed me as "da'ed" instead of my current status: "inactive." I get
invited (sometimes) to get-togethers and I'm in regular contact (work,
etc.) with others. Who knows?
I'd rather be a thorn in the gb's side.
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Six,
I tend to agree with you. The Nazis didn't fool around. Muck up the
job and you were easily replaced. Human life had little value and
replacing bungling workers wasn't a problem. But the Nazis weren't
all Mensa candidates, either. Incompetence is endemic in the human
equation, and pulling a fast one on them now and then wouldn't be
like brain surgery. I think it happened all over, not just in ball bearing
factories, simply because 1. the workers weren't happy workers (hard
to be happy when the boss has moved you out of your house and
sleeps with your wife and daughter whenever he wants) and 2. they
were usually quite undernourished and unrested and what work they
did was seldom at their full potential. I don't think it happened as a
rule, though.
peace,
todd
it's not really, but, what can ya do?!.
i was just thinking, is matt 24:14 meant to be taken literally as the dubs do??.
that's my question, someone please answer..... chris.
depends on what you mean by "literally"