Posts by Teirce

That's the most inscrutable travesty of this affair, and I can't exactly convey it just so to my friends who never dealt with Witnesses. They don't grasp what an orgazmorator this is for JWs.

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"Imagine" all the inappropriate songs...

by Tatiana in

this is a complete list of "lyrically inappropriate" songs being banned from several us radio stations in the wake of the attacks.. "it's very dangerous," says nina crowley, director of massmic, a music free-speech organization.

"i understand they're pulling certain violent songs.

but you put out a list of songs like this, and the next thing you know someone's pulling the albums off the shelves in wal-mart.".

Teirce

Some of those are Vietnam protest era, and were all about fighting flames with imflamatory music.

That list didn't include "It's the End of the World As We Know It", REM, which is the most frightening song I've ever heard.

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Anyone here from Pa.?

by claudia in

anyone here from pa?

Teirce

thinkers wife,

Not ringing a bell right away.. How long ago were your parents in Swatara? I was there from about Jan 98 to May 99. My best friend was from Edgemont, then he later moved to Palmyra.

Apple Blossom fest is very nice, but, the old inlaws might still go there, hehe....

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Christians and dubs/treated same here

by gumby in

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hey guys.

i got an idea as to why there is the same bitterness by many/not all, on this board twards christians like there is to dubs.

you feel you have found it to be a crock just as the borg is and it makes you madder than crap to see people duped a second time.

Teirce

(off topic) SaintSatan, I believe I owe you a reference on the secular humanism of Greek deities, but who knows where the original thread got to. Here's some excerpts from 'Early Greek Philosophy' , http://plato.evansville.edu/public/burnet/intro.htm :

V. Cosmogony
"Nor is it only in this way that Hesiod shows himself a child of his time. His Theogony is at the same time a Cosmogony, though it would seem that here he was following the older tradition rather than working out a thought of his own. At any rate, he only mentions the two great cosmogonical figures, Chaos and Eros, and does not really bring them into connection with his system. They seem to belong, in fact, to an older stratum of speculation. The conception of Chaos represents a distinct effort to picture the beginning of things. It is not a formless mixture, but rather, as its etymology indicates, the yawning gulf or gap where nothing is as yet. We may be sure that this is not primitive. Primitive man does not feel called on to form an idea of the very beginning of all things; he takes for granted that there was something to begin with. The other figure, that of Eros, was doubtless intended to explain the impulse to production which gave rise to the whole process. These are clearly speculative ideas, but in Hesiod they are blurred and confused."

IX. The Secular Character of Ionian Science
"We must not be misled by the use of the word theos in the remains that have come down to us. It is quite true that the Ionians applied it to the "primary substance" and to the world or worlds, but that means no more and no less than the use of the divine epithets "ageless" and "deathless" to which we have referred already. In its religious sense the word "god" always means first and foremost an object of worship, but already in Homer that has ceased to be its only signification. Hesiod's Theogony is the best evidence of the change. It is clear that many of the gods mentioned there were never worshiped by any one, and some of them are mere personifications of natural phenomena, or even of human passions. This non-religious use of the word "god" is characteristic of the whole period we are dealing with, and it is of the first importance to realize it. No one who does so will fall into the error of deriving science from mythology."

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WATCHTOWER SALES!

by Kent in

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watchtower bible & tract society of new york.

25 columbia heights, brooklyn, 11201.

revenue: $951 million.

Teirce

Relief Fund..................................21,182 / 170,507

Convention Fund.................................430 / 0

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LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'd still like to know who the Donald Trumps are that live high on the hog and have a life that makes it worth forking out all this spiritual drivil at the proper time. I mean, it can't just spit out of a computer, right? Do they have investment in mainframes? Please say I didn't spend my life listening to a Prophesy-o-Tron 2000. I want to know that some old white guy is getting laid blind somewhere by 10 pioneer hotties. :)

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Cult Fighters are short sighted fools

by proplog2 in

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the anti-cultists are narrow minded and uninformed to say the least.. you see a lot of this here.

it is mostly a cover for irrational hatred.

most religions organized in a way that they expected their members to take their beliefs seriously.

Teirce

You may refuse on grounds that it's irrelevant, but, what is your own background Proplog2?

I also belong to the cult of midriff and bellybutton, but that doesn't dictate that I can't check out.. shoulders or elbows.

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My Personal Turmoil

by stevieb1 in

i am still one of jehovah's witnesses, although i disagree with a number of the tenets of the watchtower society.

i feel that i cannot preach their version of the "good news" to my neighbours and i told an inquiring elder from the congregation that i felt that their was a gulf between the society's version of the good news and that preached by christ.

they now want to give me a "shepherding call".

Teirce

My question is if you could determine whether your depression was in any latent way related to this knowledge or preknowledge of the dichotomies you've mentioned. If so, I'd say the way out of that depression is clear.

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Anyone here from Pa.?

by claudia in

anyone here from pa?

Teirce

siegswife, did you know emily rafalski? I knew a few people from reading/pottstown.

thinkers wife, do you know matt knap?

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Take sides now

by chappy in

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i spent a couple of hours today with jw relatives and of coarse the usual subjects came up.

based on our conversation and after leaving, a couple of the old questions came to mind.

i'm curious about the rest of the boards thoughts.. now this may be conjecture but what if: god made it known,in no uncertain terms, that h/she exists and is finally going to put an end to all the evil in the world.

Teirce

A world ban on religion didn't seem far-fetched when the Society first mentioned it. That was just a logical (one logical thing they do) projection of the rational conquering the irrational. Our cave ancestors did it, Joseph Campbell cites it, it's a reasonable "prophesy"or hope for a group which depends on such to fulfill their martyr complex. The reason the Society can chain up so many minds is not because they have any divine inside scoop on the future, but because there's a number of sociologic geniuses there who have researched Orson Wells and know a Stalin when they see it. Eh, Comrade? Eh? Being that they have political-religious genius sufficient to control millions, they have a grasp on the dichotomies between religion and politics, and can make predicitons.

#1 prediction. Religion is so blindly full of itself that government cannot always run effectively. Bad religeon ruins it for good religion, and the JWs are counting on that. Recent events are justifying their desire.
#2. The Witnesses themselves are so uniquely annoying that it is elementary, dear Watson, that they will be singled out for informal persecution, but they cannot yet be persecuted formally in free society.
#3. They are within the law because their crime has to do with violating people's right to privacy and insulting their intelligence. These are crimes which are tolerated or not articulated in free society, and are much less visible than those "felonous" or misdemeanor crimes committed in most other denominations, although it appears the JWs are beginning to catch up..
#4. Since they could not be held accountable foremost, they will be held accountable last-most. Logically, only after most of the visibly criminal religion has been sanctioned.

As for whether or not Jehovah God Hisowndamnself showed up and endorsed Jehovah's Witnesses, I would categorically side with the nations, just like they'd want, because an organization that declares to inhabit a spiritual paradise, while still totalitarianizing spiritual thought, cannot be anything other even in a physical paradise. Thus, why the hell did Jehovah God Hisowndamnself make brains or his creatures, when all he needed was bees?