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  What would YOU do, knowing what we know?

  by Bendrr in

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  knowing what hijackers are capable of now, what would you do if you were on a plane and a group of hijackers began taking over?.

  would you stand and fight, calling on your fellow passengers to fight with you?.

  what if the terrorists were armed with guns or claimed to have a bomb?

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  Teirce

  Right now I'm imagining ascenario where the hijackers insist that they only wish to land the plane at an unplanned destination. They have passengers under knife and gun, etc, but insist that no one will die if everyone cooperates. Being that the people are offered this little bit of light at the end of the tunnel, and if the terrorists play their cards right by keeping everyone alive, then I can see everyone giving no resistance. They'd stay sane and peaceful until they saw the next target building looming in the distance, and the uncomfortable intuition that the plane just now banked 'just so'.. At this point, it is probably too late for the agape of sacrificing one planeload to overcome the hijacker pilots, and, there will be loss of life on the ground.

  I'd say it's time for new tacit rules.

  1. Obviously, everyone in possession of a cell phone should be using the hell out of it, as possible, if only to get voice prints of highjackers and provide some augmentation or replacement for the blackbox, plus to give some idea of available heroism.

  2. If the pilot is killed or replaced by terrorist pilots, the passengers have a high certainty that they need to do the right thing.

  3. If the passengers are herded to the back of the plane, there's a high chance that they need to do the right thing.

  4. Terrorists are possessed of an inner single-minded vision. There are many accounts of Americans who gave their lives to save a drowning, snowbound, inferno, etc, victim. There's a place in the lizard brain that can tap into a righteous rage that can save lives, and Americans don't have to be too civilized to use it, now that we've been served formal notice what the new rules are.

  5. God help the terrorist who screws up and actually f'n Tells the passengers they're going to die. I hope he gets a big, wet, loving, ocular noogie in his last moments.
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  ``Quality Time'' in Field Service: Fact or Fiction

  by Room 215 in

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  based on comments in various threads, it seems that many of you are acquainted with the various ``dodges'' jws use to strech out their field service time: foot-dragging, driving around on return visits from one far-flung end of the territory to the other, the skilful avoidance of contact with housholders, coffee breaks, etc.

  etc.. do you have any impression of how pervasive these time-wasting such practices are, and what proportion of the time reported by jws is actually bogus and not spent productively?

  or, put another way, how rare is is to encounter who just loves to go out and who uses his/her time efficiently from beginning to end?.

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  Teirce

  "how painful was it to lead the group everday trying to think of something new to say" - Towards the end, I was saying things like, "God speed!" hehe Only the Gestaponeers knew that was a paganish thing to say..

  "and not appear that one is always saving the best people (the skilled time-waters) for ones own car group." lol! I'd get thru that stuff quick usually, being confident the smarter sisters would fix things in the parking lot. Now, this kindof backlashed, because then the sisters got a reason to make jokes about how they were so much smarter. I didn't appreciate that back then (although it's funny now).
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  America Has No Truer Friend...

  by SixofNine in

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  ....than great britain.

  so sayeth gw bush a minute ago.

  was that squishy sound the collective moistening of 6 million jw's when they heard that?.

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  Teirce

  This is where I will not post, "Imagine the clean-up work."
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  America Has No Truer Friend...

  by SixofNine in

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  ....than great britain.

  so sayeth gw bush a minute ago.

  was that squishy sound the collective moistening of 6 million jw's when they heard that?.

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  Teirce

  That's the most inscrutable travesty of this affair, and I can't exactly convey it just so to my friends who never dealt with Witnesses. They don't grasp what an orgazmorator this is for JWs.
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  "Imagine" all the inappropriate songs...

  by Tatiana in

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  this is a complete list of "lyrically inappropriate" songs being banned from several us radio stations in the wake of the attacks.. "it's very dangerous," says nina crowley, director of massmic, a music free-speech organization.

  "i understand they're pulling certain violent songs.

  but you put out a list of songs like this, and the next thing you know someone's pulling the albums off the shelves in wal-mart.".

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  Teirce

  Some of those are Vietnam protest era, and were all about fighting flames with imflamatory music.

  That list didn't include "It's the End of the World As We Know It", REM, which is the most frightening song I've ever heard.
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  Anyone here from Pa.?

  by claudia in

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  anyone here from pa?

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  Teirce

  thinkers wife,

  Not ringing a bell right away.. How long ago were your parents in Swatara? I was there from about Jan 98 to May 99. My best friend was from Edgemont, then he later moved to Palmyra.

  Apple Blossom fest is very nice, but, the old inlaws might still go there, hehe....
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  Christians and dubs/treated same here

  by gumby in

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  hey guys.

  i got an idea as to why there is the same bitterness by many/not all, on this board twards christians like there is to dubs.

  you feel you have found it to be a crock just as the borg is and it makes you madder than crap to see people duped a second time.

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  Teirce

  (off topic) SaintSatan, I believe I owe you a reference on the secular humanism of Greek deities, but who knows where the original thread got to. Here's some excerpts from 'Early Greek Philosophy' , http://plato.evansville.edu/public/burnet/intro.htm :

  V. Cosmogony
  "Nor is it only in this way that Hesiod shows himself a child of his time. His Theogony is at the same time a Cosmogony, though it would seem that here he was following the older tradition rather than working out a thought of his own. At any rate, he only mentions the two great cosmogonical figures, Chaos and Eros, and does not really bring them into connection with his system. They seem to belong, in fact, to an older stratum of speculation. The conception of Chaos represents a distinct effort to picture the beginning of things. It is not a formless mixture, but rather, as its etymology indicates, the yawning gulf or gap where nothing is as yet. We may be sure that this is not primitive. Primitive man does not feel called on to form an idea of the very beginning of all things; he takes for granted that there was something to begin with. The other figure, that of Eros, was doubtless intended to explain the impulse to production which gave rise to the whole process. These are clearly speculative ideas, but in Hesiod they are blurred and confused."

  IX. The Secular Character of Ionian Science
  "We must not be misled by the use of the word theos in the remains that have come down to us. It is quite true that the Ionians applied it to the "primary substance" and to the world or worlds, but that means no more and no less than the use of the divine epithets "ageless" and "deathless" to which we have referred already. In its religious sense the word "god" always means first and foremost an object of worship, but already in Homer that has ceased to be its only signification. Hesiod's Theogony is the best evidence of the change. It is clear that many of the gods mentioned there were never worshiped by any one, and some of them are mere personifications of natural phenomena, or even of human passions. This non-religious use of the word "god" is characteristic of the whole period we are dealing with, and it is of the first importance to realize it. No one who does so will fall into the error of deriving science from mythology."
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  WATCHTOWER SALES!

  by Kent in

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  watchtower bible & tract society of new york.

  25 columbia heights, brooklyn, 11201.

  revenue: $951 million.

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  Teirce

  Relief Fund..................................21,182 / 170,507

  Convention Fund.................................430 / 0

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  LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!!!!!!!!

  I'd still like to know who the Donald Trumps are that live high on the hog and have a life that makes it worth forking out all this spiritual drivil at the proper time. I mean, it can't just spit out of a computer, right? Do they have investment in mainframes? Please say I didn't spend my life listening to a Prophesy-o-Tron 2000. I want to know that some old white guy is getting laid blind somewhere by 10 pioneer hotties. :)
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  Cult Fighters are short sighted fools

  by proplog2 in

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  the anti-cultists are narrow minded and uninformed to say the least.. you see a lot of this here.

  it is mostly a cover for irrational hatred.

  most religions organized in a way that they expected their members to take their beliefs seriously.

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  Teirce

  You may refuse on grounds that it's irrelevant, but, what is your own background Proplog2?

  I also belong to the cult of midriff and bellybutton, but that doesn't dictate that I can't check out.. shoulders or elbows.
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  My Personal Turmoil

  by stevieb1 in

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  i am still one of jehovah's witnesses, although i disagree with a number of the tenets of the watchtower society.

  i feel that i cannot preach their version of the "good news" to my neighbours and i told an inquiring elder from the congregation that i felt that their was a gulf between the society's version of the good news and that preached by christ.

  they now want to give me a "shepherding call".

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  Teirce

  My question is if you could determine whether your depression was in any latent way related to this knowledge or preknowledge of the dichotomies you've mentioned. If so, I'd say the way out of that depression is clear.