Posts by terafera

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What is?

by getingout in

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the sickest thing you every witnessed in your kh?.

sept 16th, the brothers and sisters were talking about the wtc crashes.

they felt it was a sure sign that this system of things is about to end.

My best friend (a sister) and I drove down to Seattle for a week long trip. We didnt know ANYONE in Wa, so we drove to Olympia and attended the Memorial there. We were so spiritually 'rev'd' up.. we couldnt wait to meet our fellow brothers and sisters in Washington!

We get to the Hall a little late, since we got lost. Everyone is singing the song and we ask the attendants for help in finding a seat. They just look at us blank faced (as though we were going to mug him!). So we go to the back of the Hall and wedge ourselves in a row. There were tons of stares the whole meeting. The person next to us even looked like he didnt know if he should pass the wine and bread to us. Jerk.

Then after the meeting.. we stand there. NOT A ONE would talk to us! Stares and looks, but no one would talk to us. We even tried to approach some but they looked so engaged in a conversation we sheepishly left. As we got into the car, I mentioned we were visiting from Alaska and needed help as to how to get on the main highway (we were heading back home that night). I was hoping this would start a nice conversation and make us new friends. He shone the flashlight in our eyes and told us to just head out on the road in front of us and walked away. Needless to say, we didnt feel so spiritually rev'd when we left. We were totally depressed.

The next night we hung out at a bar in Canada... it was the most fun we ever had!

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EXPANSION

by terafera in

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here's a story a sister in the lower 48 emailed me:.

jehovah's witnesses seek to expand campus in patterson.

by michael risinit.

terafera

Here's a story a sister in the lower 48 emailed me:

Jehovah's Witnesses seek to expand campus in Patterson

By MICHAEL RISINIT
THE JOURNAL NEWS
(Original publication: , 20)

PATTERSON - The hilltop complex off Route 22 in Patterson that is part of
the global headquarters for about 6 million Jehovah's Witnesses is
running out of room, and the religious group wants to enlarge its
complex.

The Watchtower Bible and Tract Society, the legal name of the parent
organization of the Witnesses, has proposed adding about 172,800 square
feet more of office and living space to its campus. The facility is used
as a training center for hundreds of administrators from around the
world. It also houses the graphic arts headquarters of the organization's
Bible-education materials.

"It's kind of an orderly growth we've experienced," said Richard Eldred,
spokesman for the Jehovah's Witnesses facility. "We anticipate increasing
needs as the years go by."

Watchtower representatives will be before the Patterson Zoning Board of
Appeals tonight for a public hearing. Patterson Town Planner Richard
Williams said the group "needs to do a couple of things" to move ahead
with its proposal. The Witnesses have to amend their special permit as it
pertains to parking. Watchtower is also seeking relief from the town's
height ordinance for one of its proposed buildings. The zoning board
meeting starts at 7:30 p.m. in Patterson Town Hall, Routes 311 and 164.

The proposed five new buildings would represent about a 25 percent
increase in the facility's size, which was completed in 1995. Eldred said
the new construction would take about two or three years to complete and
would accommodate the group's needs for at least 10 years.

Plans filed with the Patterson Planning Department show two new residence
buildings, one three stories and the other five; a new four-story office
building, a maintenance building and a three-story addition to the
complex's audio-visual studio on the group's 362 acres. The tallest
proposed structure is 79 feet, 30 feet taller than local zoning codes
permit. The proposal is
expected also to come under review from the town's Planning Board,
Williams said.

Watchtower bought the land, a former dairy farm, along both sides of
Route 22 in 1984 and began construction of the missionary training
complex in 1989. The 28-building complex includes school facilities,
offices and residences to accommodate about 1,200 people. Active in
almost every country in the world, the group has about 1.05 million
members in the United States

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only accomodate their needs for 10 years?? Will we even be here then?

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Why is it the most judgmental ones.....

by terafera in

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being relatively still a 'newbie' of sorts (i've only been here a month or so).... the first thing i thought when i started posting here, was,.

'would they judge me here?

' 'do you have to totally disagree with the jw's?

terafera

Being relatively still a 'Newbie' of sorts (I've only been here a month or so)...

The first thing I thought when I started posting here, was,

'would they judge me here?' 'do you have to totally disagree with the JW's?' 'do you all have to think the same way?'

But after reading hundreds of posts I have come to see that the majority of people here are NOT judgmental. For the ones that have said they are going back to the Organization, people here have generally wished them well. Nothing hateful.

Then why does it seem the few posts that are hateful, cruel, judgmental and spiteful are coming from people supporting the WTBTS?

Makes you wonder...

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Darn Smurfs

by SoulJah in

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any one remember the smurfs; especially that evil papa smurf?.

the cong i attended even gave a talk about their evilness.. roumor was one even animated itself [little plastic figure] inside the k-hall.. this led to my sister having to get rid of her smurf collection.. i'd have to say though at that time it made me happy ;being she .

got 2-3 new smurfs every week, and they woldn't even ever buy me a hotwheels car

terafera

You guys.. this thread brings up alot of painful memories!

I LOVED Smurfs and was a total collector. I had the plastic mini figurines (that you painted and baked in the oven), I had Smurf underwear, shirts, purses, posters, books, dolls etc.

I was happy until ONE DAY my mother comes home from her 'gossip session' aka study group with 2 other sisters who were known for being blabber mouths. One of the women was an elders wife. Anyway, my mother comes home ghost-faced and tells us at dinner that Smurfs were demons and that a kids Smurf came alive!! I ran away crying, fearing they would attack me at night. I tore up my undies, posters, books, and threw away my figurines in sheer panic. My mom gave the box of stuff to my dad who burned it. I shook that whole night.. hoping I wouldnt get attacked somehow and trying to make sure I didnt leave ONE Smurf thing in my room.

Thinking back, it just goes to show how totally children put their trust in their parents. It reminds me too, when dealing with my son, to not pass along crazy stories, because we never know how we may affect them in the future.

btw, I was totally thinking of the Pokemon thing too!! I even remember when I lived in Hawaii that there were families telling their kids not to play with them since it encouraged 'gambling' and 'fighting'. You can never win....

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Italian Food

by larc in

folks,.

on other threads, we have discussed our favorite: pizza toppings, chinese food, sandwich, candy, and desserts.

so now my friends, it is time to address the very pregnant question: what is your favorite italian food.

terafera

The most delicious Italian thing I could ever imagine is

ANTONIO SABATO JR.

For food, I love ANYTHING remotely Italian or Greek. I love Stuffed Manicotti and Gryos (I know their greek but yummmmmmy!)

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I want to partake at the Memorial!

by BQE in

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it's been a strong desire of mine for the 20 some odd years since i've beeb df'd.. what do you guys think?

should i go this year and make everyone's jaw drop??

any advice as to what i should say if i am interrogated?

terafera

FredHall said:

BQE<
It is up to Jehovah and you on this matter.

Oh come on....GIVE ME A BREAK!!! Seriously, do you really believe what you just wrote?? If a Disfellowshipped person attended a Memorial and partook, do you think everyone there would shrug their shoulders and say, 'well it really is between BQE and Jehovah.'

Puuleeze!! You know as well as anyone that there would be shock, uproar and whispers. The attendants would probably look to an elder for permission to remove him.

Please use honesty when posting! If you seriously believe what you wrote then you are not a JW.

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I want to partake at the Memorial!

by BQE in

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friends

it's been a strong desire of mine for the 20 some odd years since i've beeb df'd.. what do you guys think?

should i go this year and make everyone's jaw drop??

any advice as to what i should say if i am interrogated?

terafera

well if you tell them beforehand, they will promptly remove you.

I guess when they pass it, if you take a sip and a bite, they will go into convulsions and promptly remove you.

Either way, let us know what you do!!!

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What did you give up to become a witness?

by sleepy in

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what did you give up to become a witness?.

was it something you are still glad about or something you regret.. i'll start of with things i gave up.

(even though i was brought up in the truth talks and the mags made you guilty about certain things).

terafera

WOW Neon..

That is awesome!!!

Good for you

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The Jackson Family (Michael, etc)

by teenyuck in

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it is 3 pm est, on vh-1, they are showing pop-up video.

they are showing all the jacksons.

they just showed la toya.

terafera

The Jacksons..

I always wondered, were they weird before they became JW's, or did they get weird BECAUSE of the JW'S?

Just a thought..

and not play cards? Freaky! I was allowed to play with cards (one of the rare things that was allowed in our home).

That LaToya is loony though!

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What did you give up to become a witness?

by sleepy in

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friends

what did you give up to become a witness?.

was it something you are still glad about or something you regret.. i'll start of with things i gave up.

(even though i was brought up in the truth talks and the mags made you guilty about certain things).

terafera

WHAT DID I GIVE UP?

my childhood.

memories of celebrating holidays with my dad (who died before I left the Org).

a college education.

plans for a future in THIS life.

any sense of 'normalcy'.

my self-esteem.

independant thought.

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