on a road trip with my jw dad and stopped at the rest stop.
this jw lady walked up to me with a craptower.
big mistake.
My father is in a very weak health state. That's the only reason why I wouldn't do that in front of him, you know, being decent human being and all. However, had he been in better shape, I'd actually be looking for the opportunity to do that.
Don't know about your father, JunkYardDog, but mine was the typical born-again weirdo fanatic.
if god is the creator, who created god or how did he evolve?.
The answer is actually quite simple: There isn't such thing as "God".
starting this thread because of katewild's post.
(from where came god?).
the unanswerable questions of life are usually attributed to: "we are imperfect, so cannot understand.
So, perfect Adam with 100% brain function, allowed his little head to outmanoeuvre his unparalleled perfect brain (even though they never actually had had sex yet)?
...or there never was such "Adam". That makes more sense to me.
having left the witnesses i hope i won't get " fooled again".
yet life outside the organisation seems one big advertistiment telling me how useless i am.
these advertisements tell me i am physically ugly, which can only be corrected by buying the advertisers " answer to my prayers" product.
I know that many people end in organizations like the WT, thinking that they may get shielded from the bad influence and bombarding from the world out there about pretty much everything.
The reality is that the world and life in general can be ugly and tough, but as many of us know now, there isn't any place to go. The WT capitalizes in people's fears or disappointments with the state of the world in order to gain members.
Part of my healing involves a lot of acceptance of "the world", with all the good and bad things that it has.
new to the forums and looking for someone who may have had a similar experience.
i have been disfellowshipped going on 30 years now.
within those thirty years i have built myself a life and slowly learned to cope with the shunning from family and friends.
I think that it's very painful to be submitted to such undeserving mistreatment. Long ago I learned not to accept my JW family's "attempts" at relationships for as long as they remain JWs. They are not, never going to respect my life, my decision, and their attempts have always been for them to feel good about themselves, never real interest in me.
I'm not on Facebook, not only because I don't want those people trying to lurk around my life, but also because as others say, Facebook is no different than the rest of the world. Jerks are jerks, Facebook or not. I love my life too much for me to open doors to the trash that I left behind try to come mess with me.
this was a very painful article to read, and i can only imagine that after this years convention - people will be even more emboldened to cut off friends and family.. http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2016/07/03/many-ex-jehovahs-witnesses-have-received-texts-from-loved-ones-ending-their-relationships-forever/?utm_source=silverpopmailing&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=atheist%20071316%20(1)&utm_content=&spmailingid=51830798&spuserid=mty4mdi2oty3odkws0&spjobid=961945281&spreportid=otyxotq1mjgxs0.
They are definitely changing tactics to more passive aggressive methods. All those messages are like "I love you, eff you".
What I really hate about them is their attitude. They act as if they are the ones (and the only ones) calling the shots on relationships. They love having the last word and being the ones ending the relationship.
the remarkable sister pettifog.
this morning i arrived on my bicycle at the local starbucks early, before the intensity of the texas sun boiled to full blaze rendering me a soggy, wrung out mess.. i took up my perch on the outdoor patio in the shade, eager to work on my book of short stories.
this will be my 3rd book and i’ve been enjoying the process daily.. .
I wish I met that lady. Great story.
bad timing for the bunker video with all the police drama going on.. https://www.the-newshub.com/general/jehovahs-witnesses-promote-police-hatred-at-summer-conventions.
recently one member after viewing the video material was triggered into climbing a bridge in australia and screaming about the ‘great tribulation” coming at any minute.
see picture above..
I don't think that JWs need any of that to have a bad name. They do a great job at that on their own. I don't need that kind of news to have the opinion I have about them.
it seems that when i ask witnesses questions about 1914, they really don't understand the relevance to their message today.
i am told that they preach about the coming kingdom and that they don't preach a message of 1914. if a person doesn't understand 1914 then i can clearly see how showing them the inaccuracies of the doctrine wouldn't matter.
can we compile a list of ties 1914 has to their current beliefs?.
The 1914 thing, IMO, is now being toned down. Historically they have used (abused?) that year as the basis for many of the things they used to preach that now are trying to pretend they never said. Back in the late 1800's they claimed that the new order was going to come in 1914. Then "new light" showed that ridiculously convoluted story about Daniel and the 7 times and the Revelations, and 607BC.
The thing is that all that nonsense is based on Babylon being destroyed in that year, 607 BC, but the JWs are the only ones who claim that that's when that happened. All you have to do is go to any library and find that no reputable, credible historian points at that year. Of course, their calculations of the seven times thing miserably fails if things didn't happen in that year. If you ask me, all their calculations fail miserably, period.
having been out of the cult for a few years now, i can finally sit back and accurately access the good, bad and the ugly, especially as it relates to education and having a sense of self-worth and realizing your potential.
in my opinion, religion is a total crock, but at least in some religions there is at least some value that you can translate your experiences and education gained in such into the real world.
for example, the mormons have their own accredited university where you can obtain a degree and you can actually put that down on your resume and use it in the real world.
IMO, that's one of the things that makes the JWs a cult, the fact that all the efforts people put into that organization serves no other purpose but their interest.
One of the things I realized very earlier when I was ready to start my fade was precisely the fact the the JWs take a very convenient and selfish position. They are "not part of the world" at the time of doing something for the community, but they are in the business of real estate, and use every possible resource that this world has to offer.
I find that disgusting, criticizing everything bad that happens in the world at the same time they do nothing to make it better with the excuse that this world isn't worth saving.
