So I had to laugh nearly loud when they anounced the theme of next weeks gathering: "do you believe in God or science?". I looked into the KH and I knew the answer all ready.
Great ending.
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Pseudo history in Watchtower today 😂
by Gorbatchov ingorby went to the kh for family reasons today.. and landed right away middle in a pseudo history watchtower article.
just that aspect of the jw belief he is so sensative about.. so 1918 and 1919 are changed with one mark of a pencil.
the argument of change was in the past the argument of the doctrine.
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Women's March on Washington
by azor inmy support is with the marchers in washington and around the country today.
i was raised through my formative years by my mother and sister while my father was out of the picture.
they gave me the compassion i have today.
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...It is hard for the left to win: The right elects Donald Trump and somehow the left gets blamed...
That's the very definition of the right.
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Dose Wt really have that much cash.
by joe134cd ini realize that wt has got a wind fall of cash through various means.
so my question is in the greater scheme of things is it really that much.
for example let's say with all their real estate and cash on hand they are worth about $20 billion dollars.
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...What am I missing here
I just don't understand
It's like everyone is under a spell,...
Nobody is under a spell. That's what indoctrination and brainwashing is all about.
Please understand that accepting that they are lying about this means accepting that they are lying about other things, which means accepting that they have been fooled, which means that accepting that many have made a great deal of important life decisions based on their lies, which is too much for them to accept and handle, hence, they rather choose to believe the nonsense or pretend to do so. (I know, I too hate run on sentences).
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How do JW's determine a person is anointed?
by thinker11 ini've always wondered about this.
when a person believes they made a spiritual connection with god and proclaims themselves as anointed, how do they determine whether this person is anointed or not.
does a group of elders look at the person's spiritual resume and check off the person's pioneer stats, bible knowledge, attendance, work ethic, personality, etc and then believe in the person if they have a good track record?
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I'm thinking if the person seems sane and is considered spiritually strong, they would usually believe the person is anointed.
My experience is that JWs tend to stay out of it altogether. They tend not to ask too many questions about people who claim to be anointed, nor do they question it. They feel uncomfortable questioning anything in the first place. They pretend to be ok with it and carry on with their JW duties.
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NY Daily News: Gov. Cuomo unveils plan for Child Victims Act that would do away with statute of limitation
by AndersonsInfo inhttp://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/cuomo-unveils-plan-child-victims-act-article-1.2943920.
cuomo unveils plan for child victims act that would do away with statute of limitation .
cuomo wants to get rid of statute of limitation for child victims.
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Forget fifty years ago. Unless there's a LOT of corroboration. Get the monsters NOW and make it count. Communicate with your kids. Be vigilant. Prosecute. But presumption of guilt prevails in this courtroom and we should be better than that.
Maybe they could catch some repeat offenders that have caused harm in the past and got away with it.
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Attention all leaders of corporate organisations under threat!
by Half banana inimagine you are on the governing board of a religious organisation with around eight million subscribers and an annual income of approximately a $billion (well it used to be!).
you are about to be handed a mass of legal cases against you for concealing your negligent practice of concealing paedophiles in your congregations---followed by the prospect of a cascade of damning publicity?
do you admit you were wrong and apologise unreservedly?.
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Do you admit you were wrong and apologise unreservedly?
Make private compensations to the victims?
Make public statements that you were “caring” all along?
Change your beliefs with sudden “new light”?
Or what?
This is not something new nor it is something uncommon. Companies and nonprofit organizations go through all this, being it by merit or not. Some times there are unfounded accusations, and sometimes they have to do some damage control.
That's why many large corporations have their own legal departments or hire legal firms to handle everything. For starters, all members of an organization, whether they are aware of it or not, enter a legal agreement between them and the organization. The terms of that relationship have been legally determined and established before people even join.
Then there's this thing called the burden of proof. For as many legal protections that people have today, they still have to prove that they were in fact done wrong. That's where organizations spend a lot of money in legal counsel, that is protecting themselves from being proved wrong.
Than there's the way we live today. Even if it's completely proven that they did something wrong, in the event that the wrong doing comes to light, that is when there is no settlement with strong non-disclosure clauses, then they either make a statement, no statement, or do anything and everything possible to tarnish the credibility or reputation of the accuser. The folks at the WT are masters at doing that; that's exactly how they keep their people in place.
Finally, even if none of that works and they still have to save face, them there's the way we live today. Chances are they will try to restore their reputation by doing something that makes them look good, or make a mockery of the entire thing (where do you think reality shows come from?). The reality is that people are not going to be outraged. they will just hear the news and immediately go to their next cheap thrill.
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Fancy becoming emotionally attached to a pair of Jeans...
by The Rebel inand it was with great sadness that today my favorite pair of dirty denim, armani jeans were thrown in the bin.
they cost me £260 to purchase, and were value for money, as they were worn for many years and together we shared some wonderful occasions.they were stitched on numerous occasions, and loving repaired.
but today, and to my wife's relief i finally binned my amani jeans.
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Do you have any material possessions that are of only sentimental value. I think these are our true material possessions...
I have a personal address book that I got in 1980. It has names and phone numbers of people I don't even remember.
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Jehovah sure loves foreskins!
by rebel8 inan atheist (never jw) friend of mine is an rv for a jw who he is trying to deprogram.
he started this totally on his own and just telling me about it.
it's quite amusing what he comes up with.. point 1: why the s & m stuff with foreskins?
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@rebel8:
OUCH!
What did they do with all those foreskins anyway?
I remember once getting hit by my father when I asked if that happened at the same time they were eating only Manna.
@Simon:
There's nothing funnier than religiots trying to rationalize the insanity that is genital mutilation.
As much as I agree (even love calling them religiots), there are instances where it is necessary (I'm talking about in today's society) for medical reasons. There's a condition called phimosis that may require it, and also when there's an infection of the penis.
Other than that, I agree, it's a rationalization for an ancient unnecessary practice.
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How do JW's determine a person is anointed?
by thinker11 ini've always wondered about this.
when a person believes they made a spiritual connection with god and proclaims themselves as anointed, how do they determine whether this person is anointed or not.
does a group of elders look at the person's spiritual resume and check off the person's pioneer stats, bible knowledge, attendance, work ethic, personality, etc and then believe in the person if they have a good track record?
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...how do they determine whether this person is anointed or not...
In short, they don't. That's why you see so many people in the entire range of schizoid constellation claiming to be anointed.
If I remember well, what I learned is that they "feel" that they have been anointed. It's something between their Jehovah and the person who claim to be anointed. The words of the WT on it is some kind of description of something they feel in their hearts.
Of course, such description was followed by all the threats of what will happen to those who claim to be and aren't.
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Dose Wt really have that much cash.
by joe134cd ini realize that wt has got a wind fall of cash through various means.
so my question is in the greater scheme of things is it really that much.
for example let's say with all their real estate and cash on hand they are worth about $20 billion dollars.
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My two cents (no pun intended):
...If that was the case then that $20 billion could all be used up in less than 80 years...
That is only true if :
(a) they will stop having revenue for 80 years
(b) they will continue the printing business as it is now
(c) they will continue being a religious nonprofit organization
Right now things don't point in any of those three directions. They have a great established real estate business that they started with minimum investment since all the properties were given to them absolutely free (almost $0 investment for billions of dollars in real estate). That business isn't going away any time soon. That is, not to mention their current prime real estate that they currently have that in any event, they can sell and make more money.
All the re-branding and changes they are making may look like an event of epic proportions to active, indoctrinated JWs, but what they are doing is nothing other than what every other single company in the publishing business is doing, that is, repurposing their resources, changing directions, and pursuing ventures that are more lucrative.
Furthermore, non-profit organizations can own business. That's nothing new or unheard of.