Posts by scratchme1010

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"Look what you made me do to you"

by Zoos in

this line used by abusive spouses and governing bodies who mandate shunning:.

look what you made me do to you...".

it's got a bit of a history (according to the bible).

scratchme1010

As I have shared before, when you look at the behavior of the Bible "Jehovah" you get a person with behavior typical of the most severe personality disorders that humans have to be treated for. We get Roger from American Dad

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Follow up: the baby did not survive

by Captain Schmideo2 in

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it was always a long shot anyway.

but, after a week of emotional pain for the mom, and extreme physical pain for a helpless infant, the baby's body finally succumbed.. all those prayers from the parents, from family, from friends, were absolutely worthless.

that is a deity for ya!

scratchme1010

I don't know the background story, but I'm sorry for your loss. A lot of things don't make sense, and in times like this is when many ill-intended people and organizations try to entice you to buy into their false hopes and answers.

I hope you find comfort in whatever healthy way you find. The WT's Jehovah is not the only source of that nonsense, so please pay attention to all other sources of false comfort and caring.

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Joachim Boldt - Two More Retractions for WT's bloodless "expert"

by OrphanCrow in

from retraction watch:.

when you have 94 retractions, what's two more?.

attention joachim boldt: the 1990s are calling, and they want their papers back.the annals of thoracic surgery has retracted two papers from the early 1990s on which boldt was the first author – bringing the retraction tally for the disgraced german anesthesiologist to 96, by our count.

scratchme1010

Thanks for sharing this. What I find interesting is that the WT in fact does have a point in terms of not using, replacing and/or minimizing the use of blood in medical treatment, but they do it for their own selfish purposes and reasons.

In medicine there are issues with using blood for certain purposes and now they are using other methods when possible, but not because of the WT. Their reasons are:

Money of course is the number one reason. The cost of getting, treating, processing, maintaining, transporting, delivering and administering blood is way higher than alternatives, not to mention tracing and tracking transfusion-related adverse events and incidents, both infectious and non-infectious, that affect blood donors and recipients.
Technology and advances in medicine. There are new technologies, products and procedures that can be used instead of administering blood (directly or by derivatives) for certain treatments, reducing the risk of post-transfusion reactions, and/or contaminated blood.
Low supply/high demand. Blood banks always have to deal with the issue of having enough blood. It is in the best interest of medicine to have alternatives.

The WT wants to take credit for the medical field making advances in finding alternatives to blood transfusions, when the reality is that it's just a common interest that they have with the WT, only the WT uses that to their advantage and to claim that they are in fact influencing medicine (which is laughable).

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PUT YOUR THINKING CAPS ON...AGAIN! (Zeb's thread regarding 1914)

by redpilltwice in

23 days ago, zeb posted this familiar but ever intriguing thread regarding 1914, the mother of all topics.. put youir [sic] thinking caps on.zeb 23 days ago this was sent to me from doug shields blog.

for those who like stats and numbers may find this of interest.1914 – recognizing the ”the elephant in the room”.

the problem with the date ”1914 ad” lays with the two calendars that are involved – jewish and gregorian.

scratchme1010

Or...would this even be in conflict with worldly sources who all argue against WT's year 607 bce?

Wordly sources? Professional historians, people who have university degrees, research education and strong experience in the area of both theology, archaeology and world history get totally dismissed by the WT as "wordly sources", and the WT expect people to believe their non evidence-based crap about the year 607. There's my answer.

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Shunning - Are Mothers Most Fanatical?

by Lostandfound in

on many posts by those with experience of df or da shunning, it look to me that the most fanatical observers of the shunning practise are mothers, and when a person approached parents about their own doubts or intentions, approaching the mother the most daunting prospect .

odd that visiting warwick leaflet has a picture of a meeting of some sort with a room comprising men only, given the subordinate role given to women, one might think they would be more liberal over shunning close ones, but not so.. what drives this, is it grabbing an opportunity to be more visible by their loyalty, or low level of education of a lot of dubs so that the sisters blindly accept direction or authority.

i might have expected some kick back against the shunning practise by sisters giving evidence to their independence of thought.. our real thinkers here will be able to explain this fanaticism of loyalty better.

scratchme1010

Odd that Visiting Warwick leaflet has a picture of a meeting of some sort with a room comprising men only, given the subordinate role given to women, one might think they would be more liberal over shunning close ones, but not so.

Lostandfound, I think that this piece of your post is key to what I believe happens with women in general. They are conditioned to be submissive, to have no voice, to be obedient, to never make decisions, to make suggestions only at best. They develop a strong dependence on their men in their households, and in the guidance of men in their congregation.

Any fool, with the lowest IQ, any jackass with the stupidest decision making process (or none at all), has more saying in a given situation than any woman with any set of leadership skills, simply for being a woman. Think about the mental toll that it has to take for them to be conditioned to living under those circumstances, and for years, day after day, made believe that their only place and the only purpose of existing is to be in that position in relationship with men, in this life and in the new order forever and ever.

Of course, when something finally comes across that challenges that mentality and those believes that have made them miss so much, place them in a secondary role in life, and discourage them from independence and having the lives that they deep down know well they can have, they will react strongly, hence the strong push back.

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a question for your JW friends

by Carol1111 in

the earth is to wear out and cease to exist.. hebrews 1v11, isaiah 51v6-8.

what will happen to those living in paradise earth?.

scratchme1010

What will happen to those living in paradise earth?

Magic Jehovah is going to stop that from happening, the same way he has been so able to stop hunger, and suffering and all the crap they say he can do. They use their Jehovah as a gimmick to fix everything and explain everything that they can't explain.

Going on and on and on explaining what the bible says and doesn't can keep going on and on ad-nauseam. None of that is going to matter. Like nevermind pointed, trying to show the errors and faulty logic is useless. Unlike nevermind, however, I have been more successful in addressing their feelings, going directly to their reasons to defend all the nonsense that they chose to believe. That has given me a lot more success (or ended the conversation when they are not prepared to go to the root of their attitude).

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Person who made bomb threats against Jewish centers caught. Sick.

by kpop in

this is like the arson attack on the black church last year turned out to be a member.

this is even worse.

http://www.mediaite.com/online/man-arrested-for-jcc-bomb-threats-appears-to-be-former-journalist-fired-for-fabrication/.

scratchme1010

What a load of crap.

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What is it like at Warwick Bethel?

by nevermind in

from reading about people's first and second hand experiences about working at wt world headquarters back in the 70s and 80s era, the hypocrisy and lovelessness caused many bethelites to quit even before their term ended, some even leaving to never again return to a kingdom hall.

that, coupled with open access back then at bethel to the literature of watchtower's early days can easily open the eyes of any rank and file jw to the society's occultish beginnings.

fast forward to the warwick bethel today.

scratchme1010

The WT has a real estate business. They have been taking measures to financially survive for some time now. They have changed their model and they no longer rely on house to house preaching and distributing printed literature. The exact same thing is going to happen once they find that the model they use in Warwick no longer serves their purpose, they will shamelessly make changes and will go int he direction that will continue giving money. They just do not care about their people, so it doesn't matter if people get left wondering or without answers. They will move in the direction where the money goes.

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New letter forces elders to finally show love to sinners

by poopie in

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that desire not to be shunned whether or not they want to be jw again is not the point for some they just do not want to be shunned any more there are sick of being shunned it's disgusting.

no human should be treated like they do not exist it's eviil..

scratchme1010

poopie, your thread title is "New letter forces elders to finally show love to sinners". Do you really see nothing wrong with that? You really think that it's ok that people need to be told to be nice to people, to show love, to be considerate?

Call me crazy, but normal people don't need a letter telling them to have basic human decency.

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Wish me all the best

by LevelThePlayingField in

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so i called in to my local walgreens pharmacy to get my blood pressure medicine refilled.

i go to the pharmacy to pick it up and they tell me that the doctor has denied filling it saying to them, "prescription refill not appropriate".

i asked them what that means and they say you'll have to contact your doctor on that, sorry.

scratchme1010

LevelThePlayingField, thank you for sharing this information about you. You may not know it, but you may be helping a lot of people with similar problems, especially many ex-JWs who may feel shame for having certain problems with drinking and other things, and are unable to talk about it.

As JWs we're told that if we live we're going to become useless, lost people. Sometimes many internalize those wrong ideas and feel unable to seek help or talk about having issues, afraid of hearing an "I told you so" from the JWs.

I don't have a drinking problem, but I know of people who seek professional help instead of relying on their own will power to stop. It is not just a simple preference and liking alcohol; sometimes your body develops a chemical dependence on alcohol, which is why it's not as simple as stopping.

It's great that you have resolved to stop, and I do not want to discourage you from doing so, but I'd suggest you that instead of a buddy, look for a doctor, clinic, or any professional, including mental health professional, who can properly assist you.

I think it's important, especially if you can clearly point at the reason why you started the drinking. Guess what, the way you feel about TTATT is still going to be there, loud and clear as soon as you stop drinking. And what are you going to do once you stop? How prepared are you to face life without relying on drinking? Your fears, worries and other things that drew you to drink will remain and/or come back if you just stop drinking.

If you want to be successful, I'd suggest to no just deal with the effect of you drinking, but also deal with eh cause, that is, what made you start drinking in the first place. I wish you the best, and I hope you remain sober for your mental and physical health.