i'm currently writing what i've decided to call a "thesis on doubting the watchtower," and was wondering if you guys could help me out a bit with the research.
my plan is to use it as a sort of personal reference.
if any of you could help me find the publications i'm looking for i would appreciate it.. as things stand i need:.
Sure, can you send me a copy or a link to the copies? Also, do they have any sort of authentic seal so I can be fairly sure the transcripts weren't just made up?
They are pdf files made of the official transcripts from the court documents. Yest they are official documents. Please send me a PM with an email address I can send them to.
and i can't wish him a happy birthday.
they converted when i was an infant, so birthdays were never a thing for us.
still, i'd love to be able to throw him a party, surround him with friends and family, and show him how much he's appreciated.
Use the trick that my JW mother did. She always called her children in her birthdays., She just called to ask how are we, and in the conversation she would squeeze in something like, you know it was a day like to day that I gave birth to you, as if it was a coincidence. She always acknowledged my birthday.
I hope that works for you if you feel it's difficult to do it the traditional, normal way.
few minutes ago, i was at eharmony.
one lady said at her profile that she is passionate about serving jehovah.
she is like 67 years old!
Few minutes ago, I was at Eharmony. One lady said at her profile that she is passionate about serving Jehovah. She is like 67 years old! I was like no way. I blocked her permanently. I do not think she will find another JW there!
I wonder if she blocked you and then posted in some forum "Desperate Iamallcool looking for a mate at Eharmony!", and she was like no way!
genesis 3:14 – “then jehovah god said to the serpent: “because you have done this, you are the cursed one out of all the domestic animals and out of all the wild animals of the field.
on your belly you will go, and you will eat dust all the days of your life.”.
the old gb and gb 2.0 differ on this matter.
Yes, it had a dick too.
hearing of sisters doing humble work in the congregation:.
how is it feel if you are a women with ambitions, well educated, maybe born very smart, you know what you want.. and then you see the elders, some simple, some very strict and some act like idiots.. and you know you're role is to be the one of housewife, pioneer and coffee vollenteer in the kh.. i did not see any ambisious jw girl in my youth maybe they did hide it.
but what a frustration there must be.. how do you see this aspect?.
How do you see this aspect?
I'm not a woman but saw that aspect my entire life as a JW with my mother and sisters. All bright, strong women dealing with the dumb ass idiot elders from the congregation.
Choice 1 - pretend and take it for the sake of the family
Choice 2 - give up and believe that there's nothing more to you as a woman (it will come out in the form of overeating or any other compulsive disorder)
Choice 3 - become a passive aggressive gossip spreading bitch and make everybody's life as miserable as yours
Choice 4 - get out, move on
since the angels that followed satan could take on human form and even have sex and bear offspring to females of earth why would satan not have used this avenue instead of talking through a snake .?
which really makes no common sense ?.
why wouldnt eve question how a snake could talk?
Since the Angels that followed satan could take on human form and even have sex and bear offspring to females of earth why would Satan not have used this avenue instead of talking through a snake .? which really makes no common sense ?
Why wouldnt Eve question how a snake could talk? or even reason with a question ?
Wouldnt Eve be more convinced and believed another "human" rather than take the word of a talking snake ?
Which is the more logical.?
Atheists will say its all BS anyway
What about those who believe the bible is the inspired word of GOD ?
Yes, it's all nonsense that for some reason people love to go on and on and on ad nauseam.
i'm asking this because when i was a jehovah's witness, i thought i had real friends..
I am a real friends to those I consider my friends, and to some who are not too.
atheism = self defeating.
first may we define our terms.
the word atheism comes literally from the greek, alpha the negative and theos [for god], therefore “negative god” or there is no god.
Atheism not only denounces the existence of God, but by its own definition denounces the principle by which it criticizes the reality of God. To make an absolute statement in the negative is similar to saying that nowhere in the universe does there exist a flying spaghetti monster. For the atheist to make such a claim he must have unlimited knowledge of this universe. What the atheist is fundamentally saying is that he has infinite knowledge of this universe to affirm that there exist no being with infinite knowledge. It is self defeating.
What a load of crap. Atheism doesn't "denounce" anything. Again, this seems to be based on the premises that (a) Atheists are an organization like the ones theists join, (b) all atheists are somehow united in the same way of thinking as the WT brainwashes people to be, (c) atheists compare notes, get instructions or are aligned with each other and believe the exact same thing (d) atheists are "against" or "anti" something, or (e) we simply refuse to listen to anything other than what reinforces what they believe. All that is just nonsense.
Sweetie, it is very simple. We don't need to prove the non existence of God, we don't need to prove anything to you, and for that we don't need a bible, nor a congregation, and certainly not "unlimited knowledge of the universe", whatever that means, anyway to feel confident in pour non-believes. Get over it.
following from the worldwide campaign to send letters to the russian government: topic covered here.. i started observing a scary trend, i got around 100 messages on multiple messaging apps, facebook and other social media posts encouraging all jws to send letter to the russian government protesting on the ban with the hope they will overturn it.. what struck me is that all are doing it and encouraging others to do it.
so, what if the gb via jw.org request something like street protests, civil disobedience, to the extreme of voting for or against a particular law or fighting (far-fetched).. what would the jw membership do, not the awakened one?
in addition, i feel this exercise exposes the awakened ones.
Do JW members follow any directive from GB blindly?
Many do.
Some don't do blindly, but coerced or by feeling obligated for feeling too invested in that organization, so they feel trapped.
Some follow out of pressure from family.
Some truly believe that going against a believe will have horrible consequences.
Some follow not necessarily blindly, but just because they don't want to think or decide for themselves.
Some do out of pride or fear of embarrassment.
Some don't follow and get away with it, convincing others that there some kind of biblical reason for them to be the exception.
Some don't follow and hide or live a double life.
Some don't follow and leave or are shunned.
"sorry, what's disgusting?
", i replied.
"that thing we've just called on", the sister said in response.
I've got quite a lot of non-J.W gay and lesbian friends and they've all been wonderful to me over the years, so these comments hurt me personally, but I know most J.W's feel like this.
It shows what kind of narrow-minded and prejudiced people some J.W's are, but if confronted they would just say such people live contrary to Jehovah's guidelines and the bible clearly shows they will die.
I wonder what's new about this. I find it difficult for you to just find out that that's what the average JW says, whether they actually feel that way or not, plus they show the same type of hatred for pretty much anything and anyone who isn't like them.
Not sure what made you react and the way you are now. Are you just realizing that now? And since when are JWs allowed to have friends outside their crop, especially LGBT people? Times have changed, I guess.
At least among the JWs I know you might be the outlier, not them.
