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  They should show this 2 minute video about 1975 at the convention

  by LevelThePlayingField in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  if only there was a way to hack in and play this.

  :).

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bmca1qdhho&feature=push-u&attr_tag=3yku113wrp-khxdt-6.

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  Nicely done. Reminds me of some of the adults I was surrounded by at the time. I wonder where they all are today.
  
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  The "faithful slave" urges confession in latest Watchtower!

  by The Searcher in

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  2. bible

  watchtower october 2017, page 11, par.

  17 - confess and abandon secret sins.

  some christians who have committed a serious sin try to cover it over in order to avoid embarrassing themselves or disappointing others.

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  Should we all start sending them letters of confessions? We should all send one different letter for each sin we have committed.
  
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  Do we attack the Topic or the Person?

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i was just thinking that most witnesses can not approach a controversial topic without turning it into an attack of the person who raises that topic.. as we all awaken to ttatt (the truth about the truth), they simply can't discuss the actual facts or issues we discover without turning it into an attack of us as "apostates" with all the negative connotations that word entails.... how truly narrow minded and sad!

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  they would rather attack the person than the topic..

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  I was just thinking that most witnesses can not approach a controversial topic without turning it into an attack of the person who raises that topic.
  

  It's an old, tired, yet still reliable and effective practice. I have to admit, I still resort to that every now and then. Guilty.
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  The future

  by no-zombie in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  considering the demographic transition patterns of societies historically under go and in particular how the population pyramids evolve over time has a direct application to the future of the organization and i encourage all to have a look at this very interesting subject.

  i've spent quite a bit of time formally studying these proven concepts and despite all the spin we hear and read about the magnificent growth the society is enjoying ... it is in fact in a death spiral (or more exactly a stage 5 population contraction).

  look it up for yourselves guys, it can be quite encouraging when you think about.

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  I strongly believe that the future doesn't look that good for those in Warwick or all the diehards we know.
  

  Respectfully to your thoughts, I don't, at least not partially. The reason for that is that they are as aware of that as we are. What they are doing is changing their business model. Think of it the same way newspapers had to change their business entirely due to the fact that people read a lot less newspapers today than before. The WT is just changing its model from depending on people doing hard labor for them to sell their printed books to real estate.

  Their religious model is dying in a downward spiral, but they are not stupid, they are focusing now in something more profitable.
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  Can the cult really fold ?

  by Chook in

  1. watchtower
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  i had the shocking thought that wt may never die due to its free labor realestate building empire.

  an the lawyers drain the swamp quicker than the new building program..

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  They seem to be changing focus. Scientology in USA changed their model from a controlling cult to a rich empire that doesn't do what it used to. So in that sense, yes, it may never go away. It seems to be changing their model.
  
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  Newbee here - question about baptism validity and special circumstance

  by MrRoboto in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i would like to thank the operators of this website and all the others here who support those who are walking up.

  perhaps i'll share some personal story stuff at another time but i've been lurking here for a while, maybe 2 years or so.

  finally got the bearings to create an account :).

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  Any thoughts on this? My friend was thinking to just write bethel but before going through the obvious avalanche of nonsense that would bring, they wanted to ask in a more drama free setting.
  

  Welcome to the forum.
  

  I never heard of annulling their baptism, and in my opinion, that may be because of the arrogant JW position that they are right in everything that they say and do.

  However, I do know of a person who was "re-baptized". Not sure about the particulars, but apparently she confessed to something she was doing that disqualified her from her first baptism. I was very young and not paying attention when I heard about it, so that's as far as I can go with that information.

  My own baptism was a complete sham. I never took it seriously, and it showed all the way until I left. Nobody in any of the congregations I belonged to since I got baptized, ever questioned it nor made any fuss about it. Nobody questioned my reasons and motives behind my decision of baptizing.

  I guess that what I am saying is that if there is a person questioning their standing with the WT based on their baptism, please know that such "dedication" is not binding you to anything. At the end of the day the WT has no authority and no saying over people's lives and decisions. It's all an illusion.
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  A TED talk. "I am working to change my church" x Chelsea Shields.

  by zeb in

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  2. friends

  hey friends!

  go look up ted talks on you tube.

  the above one speaks much of the wt.

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  Thanks for it. Interesting thoughts. It's good that there are conversations about it. That can help some people who care about organized religion but still feel left out for feeling discriminated.

  I should add that I know of some religious organizations that are more welcoming of diversity of thought, so Chelsea Shields should feel happy that she's not along in her attempts.

  Thanks again, zeb.
  
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  What is your happy or comforting memory from your childhood?

  by MissFit in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  when i think of my childhood i tend to organize my memories based on the houses i lived in.

  the house i remember the most was the house on the hill when i was 6. i can still picture it in my mind.

  it had a big porch with a porch swing.

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  Did you have a memory or place that comforted you or made you happy?
  

  I used to spend some time with one of my sisters in her bedroom, talking and playing. Then also playing with my little sister when she was a baby. Nothing outside those walls even existed.
  
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  What woke you up?

  by MrRoboto in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  for me, i think it was just the right time as i was starting to wake up on other fronts as well (anyone who had went through these will know what i mean).

  but it started when i was looking for what info goes on a publisher card, which led to me reading one person's story (ex bethelite) which was pretty crazy to an all-in jw but who trusts those apostates...?.

  then i started watching videos on cults, as if my subconscious was trying to tell my concord mind something... when i saw a particular one about a young man in lds getting ready to start their 2 year preaching campaign, including a school, social activities etc, i realized that i couldn't tell the difference between the folks of this mormon cult and the jws (save for some religious differences) .

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  That's my awakening story... What's yours?
  

  I am born-in, so I cannot frame my story around reflecting on making a decision to join. However, to me, waking up means making the decision to walk away from that nonsense, a difficult decision that most born-in have to face, because that means leaving your entire life up to that point behind.

  So my "waking up" was my realization that I don't belong in that organization. Growing up a JW and having a strong skeptical gene in my DNA, along with my natural curiosity for knowing about many things, analyzing things from different perspectives, all that combined with having a strong sense of who I am and who/what I am not, was the perfect recipe for not belonging in the congregation. Reflecting back, most of my unsavory experiences with the JWs were pretty much them pushing me not to think for myself and pretend to be something I am not.

  It was never about my well being (or anybody's for that matter). What I had to say never mattered, how I felt about things never mattered. It was a constant attack against me being honest about who/how I am. At some point I was just flat out told that I can just look the way that pleases them, that the rest doesn't matter.

  Then there was the hypocrisy of some people who somehow always seemed to find a biblical reason for rules not applying to them. It was not ok for some people to go to college, but somehow there was a perfect excuse for some others, who happened to be children of the "in" crowd in the congregation, for them to be entitled to do that.

  I was never seen as valuable, but I was ok with that since many of those horribly judgemental people were very simple minded people with no other thing to do than being in the congregation and getting into other people's business. I didn't want anything to do with them anyway.

  The WT couldn't cage me. They did everything possible to make my life miserable, but I left, and I left because I said so, when I said so, and in my terms. Of course, if you ask them, the story they will give you is... I'm sure I don't have to tell you about that.

  I was a young adult with a lot of dreams, plans and things to learn and do, and making other innocent people suffer by entering a heterosexual marriage just to please their stupid Jehovah was not one of my dreams.
  
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  Who Do You Think Is HOTTTT?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  what attracts you in a male or female?

  give me an example or better yet a pic to tell me what you like.😈.

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  scratchme1010

  What attracts you in a male or female? Give me an example or better yet a pic to tell me what you like.
  

  Some people here are already horrified by some of my posts. I don't want to further traumatize them. I prefer to keep that to myself.