Does the Watchtower favor interpretation over translation, especially in the case of Exodus 15:3?
Yes, especially in the case of anything that is to their advantage, including Exodus 15:3 (whatever that says).
exodus 15:3, "the lord is a man of war: the lord is his name.
" kjv, esv, asv.. exodus 15:3, "jehovah is a powerful warrior.
jehovah is his name.
Does the Watchtower favor interpretation over translation, especially in the case of Exodus 15:3?
Yes, especially in the case of anything that is to their advantage, including Exodus 15:3 (whatever that says).
i remember as a young dub, being told by others and particularly from the platform that apathy was the number one enemy and in many ways i think that's true today.
people are seeing a change from the 70's - 80's (the last time the end 'felt' close to many) and now the witnesses are in a rut.
the society seem to have backed off from making bold claims and instead seem to be trying their best to retain the members they have as opposed to trying to gain attention of others as they did in the formative years of the religion when they wore sandwich boards - throw in the growing spotlight on child abuse issues and you've got yourself a religion that's trapped in a purgatory of sorts - the majority of long time members will stay in the religion and die in the religion but as time goes on i think are clearly losing interest and the 'fiery passion' that used to be so obvious before and outsiders just arent interested as there are better, more interesting things to do.
This religion won't die in a huge fiery blaze of glory, but i'm almost 100% certain that it will fade out into nothingness other the next 100 years (30 years?) as it becomes less profitable and loses it's members to old age and lack of interest
I sort of agree. I think that they are going to (are currently are) evolve into something else. They are liquidating, and they are still exploiting their people to their bones. I think they are going to squeeze the juices from their crop until they can't anymore. So yes, as the religion that they are today, they will be gone, but something else may replace it.
I don't think that money is the only thing that those people like. The love exercising power over other people too. In fact, that need to control people is so strong that it has negatively impacted them and the still don't let go.
my dad's phone rings.
its a secretary from his dermatologists office.. her:.
"just calling for "mr. wasa sr." to remind him his appointment is next wednesday at 2pm.".
Some people don't listen. Do you find this in the service industry in your locale? Any other stories to share? I had to laugh, poor girl. I know JW's don't listen to householders. Ever been with a witness on a call or at a door and they didn't even respond to the householders' words or concerns?
In the healthcare system? Forget it, they can't care less.
Is the Watchtower's concept of 'perfection' biblical?
Maybe, maybe not. Depends on what you mean by "perfection" and by "biblical". I do know that whatever the WT has to say about anything is pure bullshit, though.
the life saving message of death and gloom brought to a town centre near to you!.
LOL!
if this family are j.w's, is this not a bit hypocritical ?.
http://www.stokesentinel.co.uk/news/local-news/parents-launch-35000-fund-raising-859314.
Reminds me of some of my JW relatives who like(d) calling me for money. One of my sisters called me, wanting me to pay for her plane ticket to got to a JW wedding of one of my nieces who didn't invite me because I'm not a JW.
Yes, I know well that their "not part of the world" shit is quite elastic.
i've been to the kingdom ministry school (for elders) recently and can report that it is mostly the usual mix of cliches and platitudes.
several letters where basically just read through one line at a time.
one point early on though almost made me laugh out loud.
...to view Jehovah as being beside you...
...and your dick between your legs, idiots.
i was unware of this.
the irony is my mom is so "different" most her witness family barely wants anything to do with her.. she has spoken badly about my own brothers to other witness parents.
most witnesses who know my family and situation have said not even the bible has the answers to helping us.
I agree with dubstepped. That applies to both JWs and non-JWs, family and not family.
public service announcement: i am not going to write a whole backstory on myself, i just simply want to get to the point.. i have been disfellowshipped now for almost 3 years, for i had a baby out of wedlock, not by my current boyfriend, but by a guy i was dating at the time- don't judge me ;) lol- my current boyfriend and i have been dating for a year now.
i've met his family-only his parents, and his cousins family, of whom i knew before i met him, thus how i met him through a bbq- at the time, he knew i was a single mom, and didn't know too much of my backstory.
as you can imagine, i had to tell him about how my babies father and i didn't work out, due to his wandering eye, and how i had little to no support due to being disfellowshipped, or as the "world" knows it by- disassociated- from my religion.
First, big hug. You do not deserve the treatment that you are given by anyone, neither your JW family, not your wondering eye boyfriend. Shame on all those irresponsible morally bankrupted people who let you go homeless.
I'm not going to judge you, but I do severely judge those who are supposed to be there for you and have no problem with not supporting you.
I'm so sorry you're going through that.
Now, I left long ago and had a few relationships. I am a gay man, so you can imagine that announcing my wedding to my JW parents wasn't exactly something I was looking forward to.
However, what worked with me was becoming self sufficient in every aspect, financially, physically and emotionally. My parents and my JW family are not there for me, never have been there for me, and if/when they want anything it's always been for their own benefit.
I just had to accept that reality and move on. Hopefully you get to form a good family with your current boyfriend. Explain to him your circumstances about them being morally irresponsible JWs, and that their support is minimal (I wouldn't say that you are completely alone, just in case he turn out to be abusive and knows that you are completely alone; play your cards right).
Once again, please know that no one deserves such mistreatment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bsqexhdme3i.
Fun to watch.