my recent sidewalk discussion with a couple of jw's has gotten me in the mood to say more when appropriate.so the wife and i were riding in the car and cat stevens comes on.
i mentioned to her that cat stevens left music when he was still popular and converted to islam back in the 1970's- how he was told that his music would have to be morally acceptable and he found it easier to just abandon making new music for at least 20 years.
so i didn't really remember all the details and i figured the conversation would die.
Well, that shut Mrs. OTWO down on that conversation. But not so hard as it did in the past. She stopped talking about the thing triggering discomfort, but we continued talking about unrelated things. In the past, she would have to go to full silence.
Wow! Now you share everything from this point on!
Great conversation. I'm very glad that you can have that type of conversation with her. Some of us could never have that type of conversation with our JW loved ones.
Thank you so much for sharing.
i was just lying here thinking about mind control and thought it'd write a list just to see how much the wts does try to control every aspect of people's lives.
some of the things i've come up with are:.
xmas,.
In other words:
Indeed.
hi does anyone have any ideas of good places for me to make non jw friends when i move coz need to replace all my jw friends for my kids and i ready for becoming inactive.
Hi does anyone have any ideas of good places for me to make non jw friends when I move coz need to replace all my jw friends for my kids and I ready for becoming inactive
Go to the JW replacement shop around the corner.
i have often wondered if jesus deliberately used hyperboles to obscure his meaning.
i can say to my wife that i will love her until the moon is no more.
she well knows that i will love her forever, not simply until earth's nearest satellite crumbles into dust.
I have often wondered if Jesus deliberately used Hyperboles to obscure his meaning.
I don't think so. Jesus teachings were done for what he wanted to say at the moment to the people who could listen to them. The rest is made up nonsense, trying to make it mean something magical today that doesn't.
i have had some conversations with ex-jw women and i am more than a little concerned at how, if a female, is treated in committee meetings.
it sure seems (i experienced this when i was young) that the elders have a commonality in trying to create such shame and sexual guilt (especially where none is deserved) that it is beyond abuse.
i know there are a lot of former elders here.
...elders have a commonality in trying to create such shame and sexual guilt (especially where none is deserved) that it is beyond abuse.
You don't need to be an elder to know, see and experience the culture that they promote. They don't have the first clue about anything regarding any type of diversity, cultural sensitivity, or inclusion.
With women, (just my thoughts), I think that it may feel extra brutal because they condition them to believe that they are weaker by nature, and that their place is one of submission. Even if they are in fact sensitive, the place that they put them in their lives (according to them) isn't one of fairness to them.
Once thing I want to add is that the same shaming applies to everyone. They just everything and everyone exactly with the same things, using the same tools, and thinking that the problem is the same. Equally damaging is the shaming applied to anyone who has a mental health issue, who is a member of the LGBT+ community, children, or anyone at any social disadvantage, including males.
in common with other apocalyptic writings, such as daniel and 1 enoch, john’s letter employs vivid, memorable imagery.
as with the other elements of his apocalypse (revelation), john draws on existing sources for his material.. meanings inferred from the images need to keep the following firmly in mind:.
1. the symbols had to have meaning for and be clearly understood by his immediate intended hearers.. 2. john intended that these images encourage those hearers to “overcome”, then and there.. 3. john anticipated that the coming of jesus was imminent, “soon”.. it is my belief that the images were intended to depict earthly opposition (rome and apostate jews) as well as heavenly opposition (wars in heaven involving satan).. the writers/compilers of daniel also employed vivid imagery.
Like your post. Interesting point of view.
i wrote her a text message telling her not to contact me anymore.
found out that she went back and told my mother some stuff about me.. i shouldnt have never given her my phone number....she's my next door neighbor.. she would always ask if i was going back to the kingdom hall, i would tell her no...people know that i'm not going back to the kingdom hall, and they still think that i'm going back.. i'm planning on moving from my hometown in 2 years and i cannot wait to leave!!!!
so tired of people still thinking i'm a j-dub, i've told people i havent been to the kingdom hall since 2011, and they still think i'm going back.
I'm planning on moving from my hometown in 2 years and I CANNOT wait to leave!!!! So tired of people still thinking I'm a J-Dub, I've told people I havent been to the kingdom hall since 2011, and they still think I'm going back.
I know that feeling very well, growing up in a small town, middle-of-nowhere, Puerto Rico, surrounded by people who have nothing better to do than minding other people's business.
As others have mentioned, don;t expect a good reception or positive reaction to your actions around your relationship with the JWs. They feel like they always have to have the last word in everything.
Also, prepare yourself for what comes next. I'm quite sure that that's not the end of it. Ending the friendship to JWs is permission to do what they do, which is precisely what she was doing anyway, talking shit about you without your permission and behind your back.
i saw a new video on youtube the jws put out.
it was an elder in his basement and other jws were showing up knocking with a special knock to get in.
outside you could hear people yelling where are the witnesses.
It was an elder in his basement and other JWs were showing up knocking with a special knock to get in.
Did they have guns and can food stored?
i have lurked around the site for about 3 months and finally decided to join.
this will be my first time creating a topic here.
a little backstory for me.
Welcome, and congratulations. And of course, merry christmas!
Fairly accurate, though it looks like pretty much every Christian religion, not just the JWs.
