Posts by scratchme1010

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Trying to find the way out.

by Lost in the fog in

i was listening hotel california and thought the last verse could be applied to any high control group.. last thing i remember, i wasrunning for the doori had to find the passage back to the place i was before'relax' said the night man'we are programmed to receiveyou can check out any time you likebut you can never leave!.

at least you will now have a great song playing in your head all day.

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scratchme1010

Trying to find the way out.

Find this sign:

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I feel like I am going crazy at times ...

by CovertsadJW in

good evening , .

i feel like i am going crazy - it’s so hard not being able to talk to the ones i love about how i really feel - meaning the “ truth “ is a big lie and a big waste of time.

it’s so weird - i can’t talk to my wife , or kids about how i really feel and it’s causing me probalms that i recognize.

scratchme1010

...I am holding back as I know if I come clean I will loose so many people , family , etc, But I can’t take it too much longer - it’s already dragged on way too long. Thanks for listening - this is my only outlet. If someone has had a similar path please give me your thoughts...

Sorry you are going through all that. I know that people who are very family-centered (and you sound like that) have a harder time with their relationship with the loved ones. There aren't many easy answers, but just keep in mind that I'm sure that they care about you as much as you care about them. Don't underestimate how powerful that is. I hope your situation gets better for you.

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North and South Korea making up will start JWs saying the cry of Peace and Security is here

by Isambard Crater in

i can see it happening.... https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/feb/10/kim-yo-jong-meets-south-korean-president-in-seoul-as-thaw-continues.

scratchme1010

North and South Korea making up will start JWs saying the cry of Peace and Security is here

And...

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Stock market turmoil....

by mikeflood in

dow jones losing 1175 points today, equivalent to 4.60 % ..... same more or less around the world's stock exchanges.

it's like president bush said "wall street got drunk and now it's got a hangover".

i think people went irrational over investing, a correction is needed..

scratchme1010

Dow Jones losing 1175 points today, equivalent to 4.60 % ..... same more or less around the world's stock exchanges. It's like president Bush said "Wall Street got drunk and now it's got a hangover". I think people went irrational over investing, a correction is needed.

Personally I don't see a lot of meaning in that. That just happens all the time.

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New here...

by Jacobi in

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my name is jacobi, i am a born-in but mentally out for more or less a decade at this point (although it was cradual) and about 40yo.

i don't want to say a lot about my family, but it is a mix of going-through-the-motions, semi-actives (but mentally in), some who have left for a few reasons and one really depressed pioneer.

because people fade in and out i have managed to slide under the radar and i keep up apperances of not being all-out apostate but i completed my fade about years ago (it also helped i moved to another part of the country).. i might rub some of you the wrong way because of my views on different things like politics.. i am not a trump supporter at all and neither are most people in my country.

scratchme1010

I might rub some of you the wrong way because of my views on different things like politics.. I am not a Trump supporter at all and neither are most people in my country. In fact, I am pretty left-leaning . I also take a live-and-let-live view on the org; I think it is mostly bad, but some seem to need the stability it offers. I hope I am still welcome here

If you ask me, you're rubbing the right people the wrong way. Welcome.

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Eulogies

by redundantcartworker in

i recently attended a non jw funeral at a local church.

during the service, a couple of friends/relatives of the deceased eloquently spoke for a few minutes about the deceased with some of their fond memories and gave heartfelt, respectful tributes.. would i ( a non jw) be given a few minutes to speak at either of my jw parents funerals at the kingdom hall ?.

i guess i already know the answer, but if the answer is "no", then why not and how would they hide the heartlessness of refusing ?

scratchme1010

About the OP, what I experienced with the JWs is that they use funerals and people's loss as a way to preach, proselytize and push their agenda. I attended quite a few JW funerals and all of them were about preaching to non-JW relatives about the "opportunity" of seeing their loved ones again and all that paradise nonsense.

I never experienced any JW trying to provide true comfort to the loved ones of the diseased person, not even acknowledging the pain and loss of them. It's all about them seizing the opportunity to talk about their resurrection, and their paradise, and living forever and you know the rest.

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Wives With Unbelieving Mates

by minimus in

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i knew many witness wives with unbelieving mates who pretty much led a double life.

“my husband says i have to go the workplace christmas party.” or my mate tells me i have to make a thanksgiving dinnner.

or “ my mate insists i do things in the bedroom that i know the watchtower has talked against.

scratchme1010

Some of these people had their cake and were eating it too.....and good for them!

Not really. Living any kind of double life is not fun, and it hurts people who live it and those around them. They are living a lie in both sides, if you ask me.

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Give Love to Receive Love ???

by IMHO in

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please help me understand this.

over the years i have seen and have heard of many who have changed congregation due to the 'lack of love' shown in their own.

you then hear many condemning such ones as 'having a problem' and 'taking their problems with them'.

scratchme1010

Please tell me "Is it because I'm not showing love?"

No. People who love you don't come to tell you that you are selfish in such crass manner.

My own experience with the JWs is that they really try to make you believe that all the shit that they do behind you back, all the emotional crap that they dump on you, and all the lack of consideration and respect for your feelings is love. It isn't. If you have a social anxiety issue, people who truly love you will be sensitive to you, especially when it comes to socializing. They are horrible at anything social. In fact, they may be the main source of your social anxiety.

Changing congregations may help, but at the end of the day, their idea of love and acceptance may still hurt you. If your social anxiety and depression escalate or remains a problem, please seek professional help and don't rely solely on your congregation for it.

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PORTUGAL: Filed a petition to the parliament to erase the legal entity of the Jehovah's Witness

by EdenOne in

based on legal arguments that revolve around violations of several articles of the portuguese constitution, and of the law of religious freedom, a petition to the portuguese parliament has been set in motion to extinguish the legal entity that represents the jehovah's witness in portugal and remove this community from the national register of recognized religions protected by law.

the petition does not seek to ban the jehovah's witness as a whole in the country.

the petition denounces the institutional policy of shunning former members as a violation of basic human rights and psychological torture, and asks the portuguese legislators and judicial authorities to take action to stop this abuse, and suspend legal recognition to the branch office entity until the policies of shunning are changed.

scratchme1010

EdenOne, thank you for the clarification. Seems like some people here still have the idiotic JW customs of not liking people asking questions. Like with the JWs, they can eat my shit, I'm not going to stop.

In any event, thanks again. Interesting post, BTW.

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Raising children - thoughts

by CovertsadJW in

just some thoughts for today - let me know what you think.

i grew up in the jw faith / cult - .

i can’t prove i am a better person because of it , but in some ways i can prove how it has damaged me.

scratchme1010

I was born in too. And yes, reflecting on our JW upbringing, that's a very common feeling. However, there's no way of knowing that our lives would have been better if we weren't raised in the JW cult. There's no point in wondering what/how our lives could have been had we grown outside the influence of that organization.

The way I deal with is is by using the skills I did get from being a JW, but for my own benefit. Also making sure that the rest of my life is not defined nor influenced by that organization. If some of my current believes or values coincide with what they say it's purely coincidental, not because they say so. I am older now, and looking back, I feel great that I had the opportunity of walking away from that organization and create a life that I feel happy and very proud of.

I'm sure that with making good decisions, and trusting your own values and principles, and not doing anything because of them (neither in accordance nor in contrast, none of it matters), will lead you to become a great, happier, and better person. You can choose to do good things and be a kind, decent person on your own and because you choose to, not because of some paradise on Earth nonsense.