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  Disfellowshipped/disassociated – How did your parents handle it?

  by Richard_I in

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  2. experiences

  to those who were disfellowshipped/disassociated – how did your still-in parents handle it?.

  i don’t want to fade, so i am thinking about disassociating soon – i don’t care if i’m playing by the org’s rules, i just want out.. however, i am concerned about how my parents will react.

  i don’t want them to become super depressed or whatever due to me leaving the org.. i don’t want them to be hurt by my decision to leave the org, but i feel like there is no way of avoiding this..

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  scratchme1010

  To those who were disfellowshipped/disassociated – how did your still-in parents handle it?

  I don’t want to fade, so I am thinking about disassociating soon – I don’t care if I’m playing by the org’s rules, I just want out.

  However, I am concerned about how my parents will react. I don’t want them to become super depressed or whatever due to me leaving the org.

  I don’t want them to be hurt by my decision to leave the org, but I feel like there is no way of avoiding this.

  I wasn't, but some members in my family were. My parents just followed JW protocol.

  What I'd suggest is to look into your own particular situation. It may not make sense to you at this point, but trust me, as much as the WT and the JWs try to convince and claim that all JWs are the same "sheep", we all are individuals with our own individual needs, feelings and family circumstances.

  Whatever happens in your case, make sure that you look/find support from people who really appreciate you no matter what you believe.

  Also, don't rely exclusively in this forum or other ex-JW places. Many ex-JWs still shun others that don't share their own opinions. Force of habit, I guess. Sometimes some people still feel like they are in the congregation and expect everyone to behave as such. Keep that in mind.

  There are many good things about these places since there are people who perfectly understand where you come from, but the world is much larger than your life as a JW and your belief system after.
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  Jehovah`s Witnesses / Parasites On Christendom ,they need to thank them for the membership they have today.

  by smiddy3 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  jehovah`s witnesses claim that all their beliefs are based on the bible.the bible clearly states early on in deut.4:2 not to add to the word....and rev.22:18 re-iterates much the same thing in not to make additions to the word of god.. i think we could agree on that the organization has raised the bar on that one with their "weasel" words on so many issues that have already been thrashed out on this forum.. so a few other things that come to my mind are : with regards to j.w`s being parasites on christendom.. 1. they claim christendom apostatized itself from true christianity by the 3rd century , yet they accept apostate christendoms determination of what books are to be included in the bible as gods word as if they were governed by holy spirit to do so.?.

  2.jehovah`s witnesses have only ever followed in christendoms missionaries footsteps where they have gone preaching and poaching off of the work these missionaries that have laid the groundwork before them .. 3.jehovah`s witnesses have never opened up virgin territory and gone where no other christian missionary has ever gone before .

  { not to my knowledge anyway i stand to be corrected if i am wrong on this point}.

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  So I stand by my statement that if it wasn`t for Christendom Jehovah`s Witnesses would not have anywhere near the membership they have today and that they are parasites on Christendoms religions,
  

  I agree. Great line of reasoning.
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  Do You Think a Schism is in the Future?

  by lepermessiah in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i was thinking about this over the weekend.

  just this week, there was the "consolidation" talk (in my wife's congregation) , the article about shunning that went viral, and the annual "show your love and obedience to jehovah by giving us your money" watchtower.

  i know my wife said people are running scared about this consolidation even though it was sold as maximizing space to help other areas, build kh in other countries, etc...... the media and government has hit them hard in many countries, but they have gotten off easy in the usa, where the majority of the people and money reside.

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  Do You Think a Schism is in the Future?
  

  No. People tend to keep the same dysfunctional dynamic among them. Things will remain the same, is what I think.
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  Scholarly interview on the existence of Jesus

  by careful in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  perhaps this has been linked here before.

  if that's the case, i'm sorry.

  however, new people join, others miss things, some forget, so i thought it was worth posting, especially since this issue comes up from time to time and some here have never worked it out or are in the process of trying to do so.

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  Thank you. It is well proven and documented that Jesus of Nazareth did exist. He was a real person. There's plenty of evidence from all kinds of sources about the existence of that person.

  My personal issue has nothing to do with his existence or his teachings, however, anyone in their right mind, with fair reason and open mind could clearly see that Jesus did in fact existed.

  Thank you for sharing the link.
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  Shunning article on Yahoo appears for second day in a row!

  by eyeuse2badub in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  the detroit free press article from yesterday that made front page news on yahoo makes it on yahoo again today!

  good to see the main line news paying attention to what kind of sh*t goes on inside the watchtower.

  and to think that this bad publicity is happening during the "memorial season" (lol memorial season).. just saying!.

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  Is there a link to Yahoo? I'd love to see what the comments are from the public.
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  How soon is soon?

  by Sour Grapes in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i guess if the jdubs have no clue how long a generation is they also wouldn't know how long a time period the word "soon" refers too.. 60 years ago my mother would hammer into my brain how soon the great tribulation was.

  soon jehovah would destroy the wicked.

  then a few years later there was no need to go to college because the end was so soon.

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  Now if I knew that the Gibbering Booty would read this then I would have done that since they don't seem to know how soon is soon.
  

  They don't have to. They know they are fooling people with their nonsense.
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  Once bitten, twice shy

  by UnshackleTheChains in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  ok. having experienced the jdubs over 27 years.

  i have come to the conclusion that sincere people have been 'conned' into the troof, into a 'system' of beliefs that immerses them into an organisation that holds them captive ie no honourble way out without being shunned by friends and family.. having gone through this horrible experience, many are afraid to join another christian group.

  it's a bit like someone who trusted someone most of their life only to find that person was a devious lying individual.

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  sincere people have been 'conned' into the troof, into a 'system' of beliefs that immerses them into an organisation that holds them captive ie no honourble way out without being shunned by friends and family.
  

  Hello, and thank you for posting the part that I quoted. I personally feel that I need to be reminded of that.

  I also love that you are posing a question about a subject that i believe is not the most popular here, which is feelings.

  I'm rather ambivalent about anything religious, and I can tell more about what i don't believe and what I don't want in my life as a means for healthy spirituality. So I guess what I feel is indifference.
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  If the Watchtower corporation went bust

  by Fred Franztone in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  what do you think would happen to jehovah's witnesses as a religion and as a people?.

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  scratchme1010

  Those of us with family & friends in the religion care
  

  The question is not about family and friends, it's about the JWs. Furthermore, it's yet another unhealthy, escape from reality, unnecessary, never will happen what if that brings nothing positive to anyone.

  Spend your time fostering a good relationship with your JW love ones instead of wasting time fantasizing.
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  JW's make the big time news

  by eyeuse2badub in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  lifestyle.

  ex-jehovah's witnesses break silence on shunning: 'my mother treats me like i'm dead'.

  detroit free press 3 hours ago .

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  Ex-Jehovah's Witnesses break silence on shunning
  

  Like the rest of us have never talked about it before? Either way, thanks for the info. This might be helpful to some people who like making fun of JWs.
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  Clearly, undeniably, without doubt ... is there a term for introducing a thought in such a way.

  by jwfacts in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  watchtower article often introduce a point that has no merit with words such a "undeniably.".

  for instance the watchtower 2014 august 15 page 10 says:.

  "jehovah undeniably blesses the preaching work of christian women and supports them in times of trial.

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  Is there an official term for this type of fallacious reasoning?
  

  Yes, idiocy.