scratchme1010
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How to "turn the tables" on still-in witness who pry about our status.
by stuckinarut2 inso many of us have had (perhaps well-meaning) jws ask us questions about our inactivity, or lack of attendance at meetings.
they may pry about why..... how is this for a simple, yet straight to the point response?
to a sincere person, it may play on their mind and make them ask more questions.
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To a sincere person, it may play on their mind and make them ask more questions. To a fully in indoctrinated pious JW, it stops them dead in their tracks and makes a point:
Way back when I though that something like this would matter, the problem was that the JWs that camt talking to me had not good intention nor sincere interest in me or my well being. They only wanted to get "juicy dirt" to talk among themselves.
I'm sure that's not the case with all JWs, but my reality was nothing that would make me try to reason with them. They were nasty people, they were ill intended, the couldn't care less about what they should do as JWs, leave alone caring about me as a person.
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Motives Matter
by AllTimeJeff inthere is a difference between the leadership of the borg (gb 2.5, is that what they're on now?
) and the sheeples, that for a variety of reasons, stick with this nonsense.. not every jw publisher believes this stuff.
the gb knows this.
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So, why do you think there is so much "change" in doctrine? About things like the "generation?" Why do you think there is a lack of acknowledgement about 1914 and the generation that saw it? Why do you think they talk so little about 1914 these days?
Three reasons:
- Lame attempt at remaining relevant by coming up with "new light" nonsense so people still feel like they are getting something unique that no one else does
- They got sued left and right over all kinds of things from copyright infringement to sexual abuse coverups
- The way society is today doesn't help their model. People read a lot less magazines and go online, and people are a lot more aware about them, and people are more rude so they have a harder time buying into going house to house preaching.
I guess there's a 4th reason, which is that they are still as full of shit as they have always been, and they want to keep that status.
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Movie-goers can be fickle (great movies that should've enjoyed huge box-office success)
by LoveUniHateExams injust thought i'd start a thread about this topic.. john carpenter's the thing (1982) was a great film, one of his best imo.
for me, it's right up there with alien (1979) as one of the greatest sci-fi horror films ever made.
and yet one film made anything between $100 - 200 million at the box office whereas the other made only $19 million.
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John Carpenter's The Thing (1982) was a great film, one of his best IMO. For me, it's right up there with Alien (1979) as one of the greatest sci-fi horror films ever made. And yet one film made anything between $100 - 200 million at the box office whereas the other made only $19 million. Carpenter's classic was unlucky to be released at roughly the same time as E.T.
I totally agree. Those are great movies.
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Congratulations and big hug! All of us know how hard it is, and some of us don't even make it through. I'm very happy for you.
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Are you better off as a worldly person or a JW?
by Jules Saturn ini was having a conversation with a relative who has been inactive for several decades (part of the ‘75 generation) and he argued that a person that is a born in is better off staying in the organization rather than someone like him who lived as a “worldly” person but then became a witness later in life.
he argues that when you’re born in, all you know nothing outside of the organization, so you’re better off in than out, that’s why when born ins leave the org, they always come back.
i agree that as a born in, your social circle is composed of witnesses but i do feel that even born ins would be happier outside of the org than being in.
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He argues that when you’re born in, all you know nothing outside of the organization, so you’re better off in than out, that’s why when born ins leave the org, they always come back.
What a load of crap. I am living proof of:
1. That's not true, don;t need to go over details of how much better my life became after I left
2. How they claim to know what people are supposed to be or bacome if they leave
3. How stupidly naive some JWs can be
My life as a born in JW was horrible. No question about it. My worst day as a worldly person is better than my nest day as a JW, and now I have quite a history to vouch for it.
Stating that is more stupid lame attempts at mistreating and controlling born ins. Top notch bullshit.
But they are missing the most important point: Nothing bad that happens to people outside the WT has anything to do with their Jehovah crap. Even if the life of a born in turns out horrible, if anything, they have responsibility for telling their loved one to shun them.
They are a bad organization, made of lower level literacy nobodies pretending to be somebodies. Whatever bad thing happens to people doesn't change that fact.
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The right to record your judicial committee meeting
by UnshackleTheChains inok.. we have often heard secret recordings online of jc hearings.
but, what i would like to know is if individuals are entitled to the right of officially recording their judicial hearings?.
supposing i was to attend a judicial committee and i explained up front that i would like to record the proceedings and then place a dictaphone on the table.
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I would like to know is if individuals are entitled to the right of officially recording their Judicial hearings?
I know that in my city is not legal to record the meeting without them knowing and consent. It may be different in other places, as it's a local city ordinance.
You can do whatever the law allows you. As much as they claim that they are above that, it's made up bullshit. Your rights don't disappear just because they say so.
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Episode Ten - DJ is shunned by Jehovah's Witnesses - Is Live Now!
by dubstepped inafter taking march off because our 18th wedding anniversary coincided with when i normally release an episode, and after releasing so much with david's story in february (which i even updated in march), i'm back with a new episode of the "shunned" podcast.
here is the summary, taken from shunnedpodcast.com/episodes.
it is available on itunes (apple podcasts), google play, or wherever you get your podcasts from:.
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Thanks!
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Why do so many that leave wind up coming back?!
by nowwhat? ini have seen so many that have left.
and their life turned into a dumpster fire.
most do not live the average life of living in suburbs, raising a family.
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I have seen so many that have left. And their life turned into a dumpster fire. Most do not live the average life of living in suburbs, raising a family. And such. And then the organization uses such ones as examples of what happens when you leave Jehovah. Thoughts?
What some people don't seem to realize is that not only the WT brainwashes people to control their lives as JWs, but also convince them of what they claim awaits them if they leave. Some JWs, especially those who get disfellowshipped or leave abruptly for any other reasons, don't prepare themselves for their lives outside.
They don't limit their indoctrination to how their lives as JWs should be, they also teach that if you leave, you are supposed to be this, become that, or this will happen to you.
Furthermore, some people end up joining religious organizations and/or cults precisely because they lack the life skills to negotiate with their own lives, hence, expect their god to make things right for them and take care of them. When they find themselves without the cushion of religion, they don't know what to do with their own selves or their lives.
Not everybody can face the ugly things in life and have the skills to properly cope and have a sense of making it on their own.
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Why are Humans so Obsessed with trying to find Meaning in Ancient Writings that they waste their life on and are willing to die for ?
by smiddy3 inwhen you stop and think about it , isn`t it just plain crazy ?
ludicrous even ?
to live your life on texts centuries old and are willing to die upholding those beliefs ?.
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Why are Humans so Obsessed with trying to find Meaning in Ancient Writings that they waste their life on and are willing to die for ?
I'd restate that like this: "Why are SOME Humans so Obsessed with trying to find Meaning in Ancient Writings that they waste their life on and are willing to die for ?"
I can't care less and can give you a list of many others who don't care either.