Just another colateral damage in a long list of colateral damages from being raised in the "truth".
Sorry to hear. Let the healing begin.
... and this time it was mine.. mrs. eden decided to part ways and leave home, and so our 25 year long partnership is now dissolving.
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just another colateral damage in a long list of colateral damages from being raised in the "truth".
Just another colateral damage in a long list of colateral damages from being raised in the "truth".
Sorry to hear. Let the healing begin.
my name is alex bogdanov.
i am the author of if only.
it was published a month ago.
I have a wife, half of her family are JW and the other half are not. I have a 2 year old son. And I am happy that my child won’t grow up amongst JW. Jehovah’s Witnesses are no different to other world religions with its dogmas and destructive philosophy.
Thanks for sharing (an clarifying your identity, I guess). You have a book, you have a wife and children and a great future ahead. I think that at this point whatever petty crap the JWs want to do to you is secondary.
When I left and started college i was surrounded by a lot of JWs wanting to see me fail. Their lack of support was my motivation and the best indicator that I was doing the right thing and that my life is in the right path.
Let their crap be your motivation too. You're not them, not like them and they resent it.
i am thinking that this could be an interesting topic.
most of us never had a chance to go to college, many of us were involved in various service industries like cleaning and such, and we have had some limitations placed on us.
so i thought it might be interested to see what has worked for people, what hasn't, what the progression has been, where people went wrong and where they got it right.
Everything I do has to have a purpose. I've never been a "just to pay the bills" guy.
When I look at my career path(s), and when I know what awaited me as a JW had I stayed there, and also the path of my JW siblings (most of them), I feel like a spoiled brat.
First, I come from poverty. My parents had nothing and built what they had from the ground up. Their level of education wasn't past 4th grade.
I never worked for minimum wage, from my very first job I worked in/used high tech, had my first PC in 1985 and my first cell phone in 1987 (I call myself "the original millennial"). Without finishing college I was the vice president, assistant to the CEO of an Engineering technology company, giving training about CAD to the same Engineers that were still teaching me at night in college.
Sent Engineering to hell since my decision to be in that field was one I made at 13, thinking of what I wanted to be and the reasons for it, and since I've had different career paths in different industries.
Most of my career paths and choices have been very rewarding in different ways. I've worked in:
The nonprofit sector in various aspects, from being in boards, to case management, to outreach, to philanthropy, to teaching, to fundraising, to protesting by showing myself and my coworkers naked in the White House.
Education and training, my presentation skills acquired as a JW came very handy at the time of working in training and education, and my technology background has given me a great career in education technology.
Doing volunteer work I have provided services, computer equipment, negotiation skills to acquire properties, relationship building for fundraising, and thinking out of the box to start programs and offer help to several neglected underserved communities.
In technology itself, I had several jobs in tech support, being smart enough to make the move out of that field before the gazillions of programmers and network support engineers became obsolete by the ever changing nature of the IT beast.
Today I'm working on my second Masters Degree, and started putting things together to start doing independent work in my current line of work.
The pros are all the rewards that come from being successful and good at what I do. The cons are the same cons of everything else in my life. I've done it all with support of random, casual or accidental people and things that happen. Because of my upbringing, I don't have strong roots anywhere. Been with my now husband for 15 years, married 10 years this September, and that's the most time I've ever been part of a community, a family, anything.
There's a con that turned into a pro. I didn't have the remotest idea of anything related to career management, job search, career paths, didn't know that careers are to be managed and the role of relationships in your career advancement. I learned it all the very hard way. Burned a few bridges behind me, and did quite a few unprofessional (not illegal, nor unethical) things. Later it turned to be a pro because I was able to design a complete curriculum on job search and job readiness, so good that it became a standard in the city where I created it. I designed keeping in mind all the things that I went through that (to my surprise) they don't teach anywhere.
All my accomplishments have come directly as a result of my strength, no handouts, no shortcuts. However, not a lot of love either.
i did some self-reflection today trying to determine why, with every passing day, i become angrier against the watchtower company.
i am in my 70's and my health is failing.
at first, i thought it was because "worldly" people couldn't care less about jdubs and the little world they live in even though the witlesses think that the earth revolves around them and their desert god who was originally worshipped by the cainites.
I don't think that the Borg will ever crash and burn but I hope that their numbers go into a deep decline and that as few people as possible get sucked into the Watchtower vortex where their brain cells die because of the Watchtower cocaine and where they will give up their families to live in a paradise that just ain't going to happen.
I feel your anger, as I've dealt with it too. I find comfort in what I have done with my life after, and in the fact that I prefer to let go and write a better story for myself after leaving. I hate my life as a JW, but love that I have been able to do much better after.
It's great to express the anger (in healthy ways of course). I know there are many here who understand where you come from.
ok with the push for more personal data to be held by watchtower.. what if... they one day came out and said great news brothers and sisters.
we are soon to be launching jw internet.
you can soon cancel your service provider and sign up to ours.
Who knows who cares.
does anyone else think it’s weird and controlling the organization says if your mate commits adultry, and then you have sex with them, you are not free to remarry again, since this means you forgave them.
the bible never mentions anything about this.
it’s so weird they have a say about what goes on behind closed doors of two people who are still legally married.
...they decide your sexuality for you.
...and your career choices, and your medical choices, and how you dress, and what music you should listen, and what should you be doing the most, and who you talk and be friends with, and who should you choose to marry, and when/if having children, and what are acceptable sexual positions, the list is endless.
Yes, it's weird.
so 9 months before i started pioneering, i had a hot and heavy moment with this player witness who was just trying to string me along and talked to a lot of different girls.
we made out and he grabbed my goodies a few times you know the regular stuff all teens do at least once.
anyways i never saw him again because when i refused to send him nudes he dropped me.
What pisses me off is that they think that have the right to judge me as immoral and unclean, even though I prayed for forgivness and never saw him again, but because I didn't confess my dirty little secrets to them, none of it counts. Its like your relationship with Jehovah only works through them and the GB?? Um no I think not. Woke the hell up.
Sorry that you are going through such horribly intrusive getting into your private matters. Send all those inappropriate assholes to hell.
If you care about the work that you did as pioneer, and if you still have believes in their teachings, it might be time to see where you can express them.
Take care of yourself.
here's a link to a common form that publishers are required to fill in if they want to participate in city cart witnessing:.
https://1drv.ms/b/s!amcrvjcxi6m6agpvwzog5pxfxja.
note on the reverse of the form comments that elders write, and a box to rate your "spirituality"!
I personally think that the data is sensitive, and that you should be allowed to see what they write about you.
In some places are specific laws and ordinances regarding information written about you. They never allowed me to see all the shit that they wrote about me in my record, but I never cared much anyway. As they say where they come from "The paper takes whatever you write on it".
many years back, my younger brother and i were the most mischievous kids in the kingdom hall.
we would mischievously take away things like the bible , study magazines, etc from meeting attendees.
soon, they will suspect us if anything went missing.. our parents were annoyed with our conduct and behaviour.. they requested an elder to talk to us.
LOL!
i hate asking stupid or obvious questions, but i missed something somewhere along the line.
what is pimi and pomi?
did i even get the acronyms correct?
PIMI is physically in and mentally in.
I am POMO (physically out, mentally out). I'm a pomo homo.