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  Juan Gabriel died.

  by ILoveTTATT2 in

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  for the world, michael jackson's death was the death of an insanely well known person.. in latin america, juan gabriel was like our michael jackson, he was that well known.. generations of people all over latin america knew his songs.

  you heard his songs when you broke up with someone and went to the bar, you heard his songs in karaoke, you heard his songs every saturday when your grandma played music loudly and she only had the one cassette and it was his.... i hadn't cried for the death of an artist before, but today i did.. there are sooo many memories, both good and bad, in mine and hundreds of millions of people, in which he was a part.. mexico and all of latin america is in pain right now.. may he rest in peace..

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  Querida!

  I went to see him in concert a few decades ago. More than a performer he wrote a lot of songs for other artists. Amazing talent. May he rest in peace.
  
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  "You will never grow old in this present system of things" -- some campaign tools

  by FatFreek 2005 in

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  i am approaching 76 years old.

  i can clearly recall that awake!

  statement and similar during the pre-1975 hype -- "staying alive in '75", et al.

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  I am approaching 76 years old. I can clearly recall that AWAKE! statement and similar during the pre-1975 hype -- "staying alive in '75", et al. I can remember being angry for the first time with Watchtower literature since my 1956 baptism, suspecting that they were running ahead of what the Bible was directly telling us. It took me another 12 years, however, before other Watchtower blunders finally brought me to my senses.

  I mean no disrespect in the illustrations toward those in menial, yet honorable occupations. I cry inwardly for those who bought in to that influence, giving themselves permission to take the easy way out as to advanced education. Yes, furthering one's education is a difficult task, even impossible to some. But, to those with the passion and resources to pursue some exciting career, it's a tragedy when one neglects that opportunity.

  Thank you for posting this. The end or the world thing has been the mos disgusting thing that the WT has done to people. So many people made so many important life changing decisions around it, and the WT takes no responsibility for the harm they have caused.

  They are a very very bad cult and can't care less about any person they harm.
  
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  Did the flood happen?

  by BlackWolf in

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  2. beliefs

  so we were talking about noah for our family worship tonight and it ended with a little debate between me and my parents about how the flood was possible.

  you know, where did the water come from, how did all the animals fit, etc.

  of course it led nowhere and my parents came up with some strange theories like that there was "an expanse of water in the sky" and that's where all the water came from.

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  My two cents. Rather than proving or disproving that event happening, I think about how's that supposed to make me join a religious organization? How is that story or event supposed to make me want to worship God? By fear instead of by choice? Will that be a legitimate, genuine devotion if I have to be scared the crap out of in order to pay attention to "loving Jehovah"?
  

  Then there's this, if it happened and if it happened for the purpose the bible says, it was a very crappy job from perfectly-knows-everything-there's-to-know-in-the-universe "jehovah". Today the world is flooded (no pun intended) with the kind of people who were supposed to be eliminated from the planet by that flood. In other words, Noah and God lost (we won). So God's catastrophic tactics of destruction and extreme fear and life threats to make you do as he says (a) doesn't go well with legitimately worshiping him, but most importantly (b) DOESN'T WORK AT ALL. Just look at how the world is now, compared to what that story claims it is.
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  "back in the day people didn't know not to abuse kids"- a jw explanation for their abuse scandal

  by purrpurr in

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  2. scandals

  a few weeks back i showed the guardian article about the borg refusing to cooperate with the charity commission into child abuse to a fellow jw.

  their response was quite amazing.

  they told me that in the 50s-80s people didn't know about child abuse, didn't know it was wrong and no one really believed children when they claimed they had been abused - even worldly people.. they said that alot of the time children lie about being abused or therapists plant false memories in their heads and that apostates lie about being abused to undermine our faith.. about the borg not cooperating with the commission they said that it was probably because they wanted to protect the identities of jw's who had been abused.

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  They told me that in the 50s-80s people didn't know about child abuse, didn't know it was wrong and no one really believed children when they claimed they had been abused - even worldly people.
  

  I do know that in the United States there were absolutely no legal protection against children abuse. It was so bad that in the first case of child abuse that made it to court, the prosecution had to use laws to protect animals and try to demonstrate that the abused child fell into the protected animal category and therefore the animal anti-abuse law protected the child. Yes, there were laws that protected animals in USA before there were laws that protected children.
  

  Today the WT still can't care less about children. All the actions they take are forced actions by the law and are taken to protect themselves, not for the benefit of children.

  They have no interest in children's well being. As I have posted before, look how all the children are never removed when they are talking about all the adult themes that they talk about in their meetings. Just go to one meeting and start counting the number of things that children should not be exposed to that they talk about.

  The WT has never cared about the well being of children, period.
  
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  Can Jws s go to Labor Day Parades? {USA}

  by greenhornet in

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  will they get df ed for doing it?.

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  They expect people not to be part of the world. At best, they will point out that the time and energy spent in the parade should have been better spent preaching. At worst, you can get disfellowshipped (depending on the elders you have to deal with).
  
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  The glaring inequity between the 144,000 & the Great Crowd

  by deegee in

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  there is a glaring inequity between the 144,000 & the great crowd (gc):.

  the gc will experience:.

  1. the great tribulation - a gruelling/horrifying time which has never occurred before.. 2. armageddon.. 3. a thousand years of “loving” molding and refinement.. 4. a second armageddon at the end of the thousand years.. the 144,000 will experience none of these things.. isn't it strange that the gc has to prove themself so much but the 144,000 don't???!!!

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  There is a glaring inequity between the 144,000 & the Great Crowd (GC):

  The GC will experience:

  1. The Great Tribulation - a gruelling/horrifying time which has never occurred before.

  2. Armageddon.

  3. A thousand years of “loving” molding and refinement.

  4. A second Armageddon at the end of the thousand years.

  The 144,000 will experience NONE of these things.

  Isn't it strange that the GC has to prove themself so much but the 144,000 don't???!!!!

  Not to mention that this whole mess supposedly started by Adam, Even and Satan. How's that for fairness?
  
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  The problem of sex (or why I'm not an atheist)

  by EdenOne in

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  as i write this under the shadow of the walls of saint jorge's castle in lisbon, two very bored jws are standing just five metres away from me with a literature cart .... in my journey away from jwism i accepted evolution as a fact.

  i also became anti-religion, agnostic and apatheist.

  and, while i lean towards the persuasion of the atheist arguments, there are a few reasons that make it difficult for me to completely discard the notion of an intelligent origin of life.

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  ...I have decided to lead my life where evidence takes me...
  

  Exactly. I see choice there.
  
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  How would a jc be conducted by the elders concerning one that's claims he's anointed?

  by Crazyguy in

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  what applies to the dump class and the anointed class has to be completely different because the new testament applies to the anointed and not to the dumb class also known as the jonadab class , so what do you think?

  has any ex elders here had any experience in this?.

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  What applies to the dump class and the anointed class has to be completely different because the New Testament applies to the anointed and not to the dumb class also known as the jonadab class , so what do you think? Has any ex elders here had any experience in this?
  

  Not necessarily with the "anointed". I saw a few elders who were the typical narcissistic manipulator hiding behind the bible and the jehovah nonsense to always be an exception to the rules.
  
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  Reason why you didn't have the Heavenly hope, Anointed..

  by James Mixon in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  when i found out what was in store for those with the heavenly hope, no thank you.

  i love you jehovah.

  but i also love the fruits here on earth.

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  When I found out what was in store for those with the heavenly hope, no thank you. I love you Jehovah

  but I also love the fruits here on earth. The earth Paradise seemed a lot more appealing than flying around

  in heaven and looking down on the folks here on earth having fun. Here on earth there is eating, drinking and

  sex. Some of the angels got in trouble from viewing all the action here on earth.

  My question what is so appealing about JW belief about the heavenly hope?????

  I also said "no thank you" when i was a JW, but for the reasons that follow:

  According to the Encyclopedia of Mental Disorders, here's a list of mental disorders that cause a person the dilusion of being chosen by god:

  • psychotic disorders, or disorders in which the affected person has a diminished or distorted sense of reality and cannot distinguish the real from the unreal, including schizophrenia, schizoaffective disorder, delusional disorder, schizophreniform disorder, shared psychotic disorder, brief psychotic disorder, and substance-induced psychotic disorder
  • bipolar disorder
  • major depressive disorder with psychotic features
  • delirium
  • dementia

  Additionally, delusions and overvalued ideas may be present in people with anorexia nervosa, obsessive-compulsive disorder, body dysmorphic disorder, or hypochondriasis.

  Though there are different ways of categorizing delusions related to mental health issues, one common way of classifying them is by "theme". There are several categories of delusion "themes":

  • Delusion of control
  • Nihilistic delusion
  • Delusional jealousy (or delusion of infidelity)
  • Delusion of guilt or sin (or delusion of self-accusation)
  • Delusion of mind being read
  • Delusion of reference
  • Erotomania
  • Grandiose delusion
  • Persecutory delusions
  • Religious delusion
  • Somatic delusion
    

  The ones I highlighted in bold are the ones that i noticed in some of the "anointed" people I knew when I grew up as a JW. I never met one of those JWs claiming to be anointed who wasn't a nut case.
  
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  Benefits to Faith over Reason

  by cobweb in

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  2. beliefs

  i wrote this earlier for my own benefit in order to get some thoughts straight in my head.

  it is just my own personal pondering on what i think might be the motivating force behind having a faith.

  it is not intended to attack, provoke or patronize anyone who has a belief and i hope it is not taken in that way.

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  I think along the lines of what dubstepped posted. Faith gets you through tough times when you don't have the answers of emotional capacity to deal with certain life events (or with life itself).