nmthinker, thank you for sharing. I'm glad you posted the (image of your) spreadsheet. Personally I don't need any of that information for my own personal realization, but it's good to keep certain things current for in case I need to talk to any of my JW family members.
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Sheep and the Goats - The Light Gets Brighter
by nmthinker inperhaps some of you remember a new understanding of the sheep and the goats in the epic march 2015 wt study edition - specifically the article "loyally supporting christ's brothers".. while this article was studied many months ago, it was instrumental in helping me wake up.
during my study of the 2015 article i recalled that we had just revised our understanding of the sheep and the goats a few years ago and this caused me to research the real progression of the jw understanding of this parable.
i put the results of my research in an excel spreadsheet.. .
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2016 death of my father who told me don't come back if your a Witness...still hurts my soul! Warning you all!!
by Witness 007 ini last spoke to my father in march 1990. we finished a "quick build" kingdom hall and i had a 17 year old spiritual awakening and decided to drop high school to pioneer full time.
(yes i was a dumb ass) he was not happy since my parents were divorced he was catholic.
we had a arguement and he said stay in school get a degree...and dont come back if your a witness!!
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I'm so sorry for your loss, and trust many of us, we know exactly the pain you are experiencing. My condolences for your father passing.
Before anything else, I'd like you to address these things that you say in your post to describe yourself and your actions. You refer yourself and your actions as:
dumb ass
arogant and stuborn asshole
self righteous
pious dumb shit
poor poor white trash
I wasted our relationship
I ruined my familyI think you are being a little too harsh on yourself. Don't talk about yourself in those terms. It harms you. Remember these few things. It is every father's responsibility to reach out and be there for his children, even if the child rejects him. It was not ok for him to just go along with you leaving. He shunned you too. Blaming people doesn't do any good, but being aware that there is a shared responsibility when it comes to that relationship can help you understand that you are not the solely responsible for things not going well.
The situation turned unfortunate, but it was mixture of poor decision making on both parts. Also remember, you were made believe a lot of nonsense, so you were doing the best you could with the information you had.
You can forgive yourself for playing a role in an unfortunate relationship. And you can take responsibility for your decisions and actions, but degrading yourself and feel completely guilty of causing the entire thing is just not realistic.
It is a sad situation, but please be gentle with yourself. That way you will be able to see the entire picture.
My condolences.
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1000 Years is Like 1 Day?
by Sorry inanyone else hear about this.
as all j-dubs know, whenever someone complains about how long the "new system" is taking too arrive, they use the excuse that jehovah works on his own time.
quite a few times during the public talks, i've heard speakers say the phrase "1000 years to us is only one day to jehovah" (my parents never stop talking about this).
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Anyone else hear about this. As all j-dubs know, whenever someone complains about how long the "new system" is taking too arrive, they use the excuse that Jehovah works on his own time. Quite a few times during the public talks, I've heard speakers say the phrase "1000 years to us is only one day to Jehovah" (my parents never stop talking about this). I don't recall seeing this in any literature. Whenever I ask other witnesses, some have heard it, but many have not. Have any of you seen or heard this? Where did that particular number come from (because others have said it's only 100)?
I grew up hearing that crap all the time. It's just more nonsense, used at their convenience and as an extremely contrived way of explaining why people have dedicated their entire lives, die and never get to see their ridiculous paradise on Earth.
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Another Subliminal Image? On the JW Website
by The Searcher inthis image appears on the current main web page - as you scroll the "witnessing" photos.. weird "facial" image at the guy's right shoulder.. .
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I never got that subliminal message in an image nonsense. I think the WT does a pretty good job with their direct messages, no need to have subliminal anything.
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HLC and privacy rights
by StarTrekAngel insome time ago i used to work at a hospital.
when my family members would receive treatment at this place, often times they would ask me if i could look up information for them regarding their health.
i always had to tell them that privacy laws did not allow me to bypass the hospital's administration.
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I too agree that they think that they are above the law. Remember, they claim that this current system is worthless, deserving of destruction, and that they and only they are the ones with the one and only truth and in the path of remaining on Earth after all those "filthy" hospitals get destroyed.
That grandiosity is what they come to hospitals with, demanding access to protected patient information.
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LOL!
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What does Trump Win mean for JWs?
by anointed1 intrump’s son-in-law buys watchtower hq, has big, beautiful plans for it.
http://www.brooklynpaper.com/stories/39/33/dtg-kushner-watchtower-deal-2016-08-12-bk.html.
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So it went from filth one to filth two.
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Xenophobia v Shrimpophobia
by snugglebunny innothing as amusing as a bit of heated xenophobia.
a case in point:.
xenophobe: "i hate america and i hate all americans!".
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You can replace "I hate America and I hate all Americans!" with "Bad associations spoil good habits".
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With up to 70% of young ones leaving what's the future of the jw's?
by karter inthey wlll always have new people coming in but the majority of the congro's are getting older particularly the inner city ones were it is expensive to live.
they are struggling to get men to be elders and m.s's and this can only get worse as very few young ones stay around.
karter..
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They wlll always have new people coming in but the majority of the congro's are getting older particularly the inner city ones were it is expensive to live. They are struggling to get men to be Elders and m.s's and this can only get worse as very few young ones stay around. Karter.
Seems like people are still having a hard time understanding that the WT is no longer relying on their people, nor on their preaching to thrive financially. They have a real estate business that is thriving and growing, so they can't care less if they lose people in the long run as that's no longer what they rely on to survive.
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Does Mr Trump have his own 'hotline' to Russia's President Putin?
by fulltimestudent inaccording to australian newspaper, the canberra times (for aussies, its a fairfax publication) trump is able to contact putin and the conversations cannot be tapped.
(an interesting claim).. quote 1:.
"a former senior western intelligence operative, a specialist in russian counterintelligence deemed credible in washington, has provided the fbi with evidence that trump 'and his inner circle have accepted a regular flow of intelligence from the kremlin, including on clinton, since russian intelligence had compromised trump during his visits to moscow – so that he could be blackmailed'.
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Interesting, and although (trust me!) I'm no fan of Donald Trump, I don't think that his relationship with Putin is that close, maybe not even that great. There are business deals that involves Trump's enterprises with the country of Russia, bu that's way far from the two being in any kind of direct relationship.
I may be wrong, of course, but I doubt that those two have even talked to each other.