Posts by scratchme1010

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Irregular to meetings, can I partake in memorial?

by Squekylive in

hi friends .

i don't believe in jw doctrines anymore but because of family i have to be a jw for now.. i am not regular to meetings, and don't answer in meeting, but i report some hours so i remain as active jw now.. .

congregation knows that i am not spiritual and i don't talk to people and i don't care what they think about me.. now, i believe it's important to observe lord's supper as a christian as per john 6:53, so in the coming memorial if i attend i want to partake in the communion,.. i believe it is a sin to pass the bread and wine inspite of knowing it's flesh and blood of jesus.. it's like rejecting jesus.. so i want to partake.. but i dont consider i am anointed etc.

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Can any experienced JW advise me?

First, why on Earth are you asking for advise from a JW here in an ex-JW forum? Since you asked anyway, my advise is this: If you don't believe in the WT and the JW teachings, that's perfectly fine (trust me, I don't either). However, that doesn't give you the right to be disrespectful to the JWs who do. Partaking knowing what that means to them in that setting is disrespectful, regardless of what your belief is. And this is coming from someone who has no respect for the WT (just look at my posts and replies).

You are not going to make your situation with your family any better (that is considering what you say that you keep putting up with the JW nonsense because of your family)
You are not going to make a point to anyone, regardless of how correct you feel you are in your actions.
All you will get (at best) will be 5 minutes of fame and in a bad way
If you really want to manifest your faith, you don't need to disrespect other people's, especially that of your loved ones.

I'd suggest you to look into (a) why do you want to do that, and (b) why do you want to do that that way. The way you come across to me sounds more like attention seeking than wanting to express your faith.

There are many other places and opportunities for you to partake and do whatever ritual you want to do on your own, so neither it make sense for you to do that based on your own words about being there for your family, nor it will result in anything that will make your life better, not to mention that you will not make a dent in making anyone there believe anything you do. I do not see any point in doing that.

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54 year old Jw pedophile molests 14yr old jw girl.

by notjustyet in

need someone to correct the article to let the readers know "it's not a church,.. it's a kingdom hall!!".

please share and comment on their fb page to get some info out there.

https://www.facebook.com/sunherald/posts/10157904826940532.

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I am glad to see the mother did the right thing to protect her child. It is sad to see this disgusting creep use the Kingdom Hall to groom his victim.

Are you actually sad for the KH being used for that, or for the disgusting pedophile doing what he did?

Anyway, another one. I wonder what the don't get caught/get caught ratio is.

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Compiling a list of Sin

by Nihilistic Journey in

with all the rules that we had to live under to be a good christian it's a wonder that we aren't all neurotic basket cases like i am!

let's compile a list of transgressions and rules that we had to live by.

no rated r movies.

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No premarital sex

Did I mention no premarital sex?

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Faith comes by hearing . com

by Christophoros in

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just sharing this as a handy tool for refuting the watchtowers' claim to be the only ones bringing the bible to the world.

and boasting about translating the nwt into more than 115 languages.

https://www.faithcomesbyhearing.com.

scratchme1010

Sure, bringing the Bible along with the gazillions of additional publications to explain it.

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Aron-Ra: Meteorology and the Flood

by schnell in

a few days ago, aron-ra posted a new video commencing what he promises to be a new series debunking the noachian flood.

he did this despite the fact that every adult should know it didn't happen, and yet many do.. i'd like to remind everyone what the insight book says: .

the genesis account of creation tells how on the second “day” jehovah made an expanse about the earth, and this expanse (called “heaven”) formed a division between the waters below it, that is, the oceans, and the waters above it.

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Thanks for sharing.

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I am glad to have found the true religion

by A Believer in

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it really is great.

i remember browsing this forum the day after i had joined it, and their was a knock on the door.

i thought it was one of my package from ups but instead it was two sisters.

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It really is great. I remember browsing this forum the day after I had joined it, and their was a knock on the door. I thought it was one of my package from ups but instead it was two sisters. Clearly Jehovahs angels sent them.
How saddening it is to see the wolfs in sheep clothing on this website that for some reason still go to the Kingdom Hall. Well atleast it was sad.
The 20 active members on this site likely don't go to my KH and they have already blasphemed against Jehovah. So to my knowledge, he won't help you when his day comes that is near.

What a load of crap! If you really believed your own words, you wouldn't need to come here at all to "brag" about it.

Get a life.

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what happens when god loses his bet with satan

by nowwhat? in

"ok jehovah time to pay up i own 99.9% of mankind you have a pitiful one tenth of one percent of followers!

scoreboard i win!!

" says satan.

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"Ok Jehovah time to pay up I own 99.9% of mankind you have a pitiful one tenth of one percent of followers! SCOREBOARD I WIN!!" says Satan. "Hmmm ok watch this!" says Jehovah. At that he stretches out his hand and destroys all mankind except his 8 million followers. "How many do you have again? I count ZERO! I WIN I WIN I WIN !" and there you have it folks ,the issue of universal sovereignty is finally settled.

I can see myself dress as a cheerleader, cheering up for Satan.

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GRACE? GRACE? What the F*** is GRACE? Jehovah's Witnesses have no idea!

by TerryWalstrom in

i think all of us ex-j-dubs have had the --i'll call it a privilege--to exchange views with others who think differently than we do.

we encounter "christians" from mainstream churches.our dialogue is sort of...like speaking to martians.sooner or later, an ex-dub smacks into a wall.

that wall is a subject which is never spoken about or taught by the gb or watchtower with any candor.

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Sooner or later, an Ex-Dub smacks into a wall. That wall is a subject which is NEVER spoken about or taught by the GB or Watchtower with any candor. It is, however, the number one topic in the majority of Christian Churches. That subject seems weird to both Dubs and Ex's.
GRACE.

That's a little pretentious. What makes you think that I as an ex-JW never heard or learned about the concept of grace? Again, my JW upbringing didn't deter me from learning about, as you put it "the number one topic in the majority of Christian Churches", as well as many other topics.

In fact, many ex-Jdubs do go around learning MORE about the bible, about Christianity in general, about pretty much every other concept that other faiths teach that the WT doesn't. Why do you think some join other faiths? The decision of remaining an ex-jw is not solely based on what was taught (or not) by them. A lot of ex-jws end as such precisely because they find a whole lot about a lot of things they never learned before.

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My Dad wants to study with me

by BlackWolf in

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so my parents continue to pester me about getting baptized.

the other day my dad told me that i was old enough to make a decision, and was wondering why i wasn't ready (assembly is in a few weeks) so i told him calmly that i have many doubts and if i were to get baptized it has to be 100 percent my idea.

he was a little annoyed by this, and now wants to study the "is there a creator that cares about you" book (which is complete bs) with me.

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What would you do?

Very hard to say what would I do in that situation.

In no way would I make him feel disrespected. However, there may be a way to let him know that on one hand he's telling you that it's your decision, but on the other he's pressuring you to do what pleases him.

Please understand that in your JW father's mind he's saving you and your life. He believes that by pressuring you to baptize he's pretty much taking you with him to "paradise on Earth". That is no small thing. So whatever you decide to do, the one thing that I suggest you to consider are the feelings behind his actions. His heart as a father is (or may be) in the right place.

Maybe acknowledging that his efforts (though severely misguided) come from a good place may make him listen to you a little more. Something along the lines of "I know that you want to share paradise with me and the rest of the family, and I appreciated that". Then stand your ground a little about this making your decision, and that it will be made 100% once you're sure. Please notice the words. You're not saying you're going to baptized, nor that you're not.

For as long as you depend on your parents, you may need to play that game of dodging this kind of things, including a lot of pressure. Meanwhile, prepare to become as independent from them as possible if you finally decide not to become a JW.

I hope this helps.

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My Thoughts on the Subject of Faith

by Saethydd in

i've had several discussion about the basis for faith in an all powerful creator for the universe, and it seems as if the conversation often comes back to, "well, either way, you have to have faith either in a creator or in the process of evolution because you can't observe that either.

" setting aside the issue of creation and evolution (where i currently sit at undecided), i was also troubled by the tendency to treat faith as a static or absolute concept when in reality it is far more complex.. to begin with, faith isn't just about belief, it combines the concepts of belief and trust.

for the purposes of this discussion, i will be focusing primarily on the second attribute.

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Anyway, those are just some of my thoughts on the nature of faith. Anyone else have thoughts they would like to share, or critiques of the logic I used? After all, I don't claim infallibility.

My thoughts on something you typed:

Logical reasoning (for whatever that is worth to a religious person) can certainly be used to grant such professionals a higher credibility, and this argument has nothing with education, but rather motive.

I wonder where did you get that. How do you back that up? It's juts curiosity. How do you conclude that? I am honestly inquiring, not confronting.

Then my thoughts on the faith thing is that some people don't have the capacity nor interest in looking too far for answers. Again, many people of faith have absolutely no interest in learning truths, science, logic, nor in anything other than what makes the feel right, whatever that feeling is, hope, certainty about the future, guidance, release from fear, sense of safety, a sense of belonging, a sense of direction in life, healing from past bad experiences, a sense of safety from hanging with the wrong crowd.

When you talk to people "of faith", high chances are that they are more into the faith thing for what they get that gives them comfort, than for anything scientific or logical. That explains many people who are literally scientifically educated, people with degrees in many sciences, and still go to church. Some don't don't know it, some do and don't care because it's about what they get in return for their faith.

Personally, I just don't see why people have to choose one or the other. I have my own believes, but don't feel like I need to express them, share them, and certainly, I don't need to prove them to anyone. So is my attitude towards other people's faiths. I draw the line only when others come imposing or trying to prove their faiths as a mean to indicate that they and only they are the ones with the real saying about the topic.