Thank you for sharing. I'll take a look at the article. Love your story. The WT didn't beat me either. Is a great feeling isn't it.
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Hello and and introduction to Virtue Signaling
by WobblyVern inhi all - perhaps a brief intro from me would be appropriate..... i hail from essex, england.
a 2nd generation witness never knowing any other life and from a large and mostly devout family.
i was disfellowshipped in 1993 aged 21 and the worldly girl i met, got pregnant and married (in that order) is mother to my 3 grown children and grandmother to our beautiful baby granddaughter.
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Need your honest opinion
by poopie inthis is the scenario there's a guy who is df and being shunned big time.
we'll he needs a place to stay since he can't stay with his family you know the shunning thing well another jw in good standing says he can stay with him .the df guy is delighted but a little problem the elders are going to find out the df guy car parked at jw house.
no one in the area knows he's df because it's 90 miles from the cong he was df in so i told him he's takeing a risk but he says i'm going to show love to this person no matter what..
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If it's you loving the person anyway, I agree with Sanchy. Welcome that person and show some actual decency.
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The handling of child abuse allegations
by Landy inthere's a lot of criticism surrounding the jw's handling of chiild abuse within their ranks with a lot of it being well deserved.
but i'm interested to know how people on here think child abuse allegations should be handled.
there's a few scenarios below, the first couple are easy then it gets a bit more complex.
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There's a lot of criticism surrounding the JW's handling of chiild abuse within their ranks with a lot of it being well deserved. But I'm interested to know how people on here think child abuse allegations should be handled.
You don't need to give specific scenarios for this. It's very simple. Report it to the authorities, support the victim and send the perpetrator to jail.
Elders are not professionally trained to handle this type of situations (and a whole lot of other things). They are NOT the right people to go to for this type of incidents. End of the story.
Let the professionals in the law and the welfare of children handle that AND DON'T COVER IT UP.
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Goodbye friends
by Freeandclear ini'm not killing myself lol i just wanted to say a short goodbye.
i'm not leaving forever, i'm sure i'll pop in here and there but for the most part i haven't felt the need to check in here as often as i used to so i thought i'd say so long.
this journey we're all on (life) and trying to make sense of it all is a very personal one.
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Bye!
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I'm confused.
You certainly are if you're expecting any of us to explain today's text to you or anyone for that matter.
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My families shunning has gone to a whole new level
by pale.emperor in8 months df'd.
loving a life of freedom.
however, my family are all shunning me.
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He let slip on the phone yesterday that my mum has blocked my number because im being cruel by taunting her with pictures of my daughter, and trying to use it as a handle to make her disobey Jehovah and talk to me. She's also telling non JW's that im dead.
Your mother is either in a lot of pain or she's a lying, attention seeking bitch. You know her better. Either way, if it's due to pain, you must respect her choice. If she's a lying bitch, you still must respect her choice.
I walked away from my family, and yes, that's supposed to give them "ammo", but only for so long and so much. As time passes and you are happy, and happier than them, they lose their ammo. Trust me, they do.
I'd respect her wishes and let her block. It will get real for her when she realizes that you are no longer trying.
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What if I'm attracted to the association of xJW's but not interested in JW topics?
by IveBeenBitten inwhat if i'm attracted to the association of xjw's but not interested in jw topics?.
i'm interested in talking with people that are xjw's but i'm not interested in talking about jw stuff.
maybe sometimes, but is there a place to go where "jehovah's witnesses" don't have a topic?.
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What if I'm attracted to the association of xJW's but not interested in JW topics?
I'm interested in talking with people that are xJW's but I'm not interested in talking about JW stuff. Maybe sometimes, but is there a place to go where "Jehovah's Witnesses" don't have a topic?
I think I'm really just looking for people I can empathize with. I feel so detached from everything else in the world.
Nobody is stopping you from that. The few posts I have started are completely unrelated to anything JW. One was about my LinkedIn profile and another about the results of my MBTI test. You can post any conversation about unrelated topics. People will reply and will be more than happy to do so.
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Conditional Love
by Saethydd ini've noticed several posts recently claiming that jw friends and family members give out conditional love.
well, i'm not so sure that is entirely accurate, in fact, i would say they tend to be very steadfast in their love.
the issue is this, they have been taught a poor form of love.
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Everybody has a different situation, and perhaps I would view things differently had I been shunned for decades, but I would rather not get so wrapped up in my own pain that I start assuming motives that paint the people around me as cruel and vindictive. After all is that not what the WTBTS says about apostates? That they are wicked people who just want to drag you down with them.
In my humble opinion, wise words. You may want to consider the difference between feelings and intentions. They in fact inflict pain in people, but what they believe is that they are in fact trying to "save" you. Also, please note that looking at people in a labeling manner as "good" or "bad" goes more with the black and white mentality that they WT teaches.
You are right, when I think of my family they do love/loved me. That didn't do me any good in all the crap the threw at me. You can love and still remain detached.
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A brother repeated a "rumor" from the platform last night.
by NikL ini seem to remember many talks and articles in the past about repeating rumors.last night before going into the book study the conductor said something to the effect, "i heard a rumor and i don't know if it's true but the rumor is that in the future we will be using only;y videos at the door.".
anyone else heard this "rumor"?.
and whats up with repeating rumors from the platform?
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And whats up with repeating rumors from the platform?
I don't know nor care to find out about the video thing. However, it is a mistake to think that the WT is against rumors and gossip. Rumors and gossip are the backbone of their manipulation and control of their people. They let it happen and use it to their advantage.
Interesting that if you ask any JW, most-to-all are of the belief that gossip and rumor is a problem only in their congregation and that such things are not common anywhere else. Try it. Ask around.
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Do you think I should get something for my wife for her birthday?
by schnell inmy wife is still nominally in, but only because it "makes me (her) happy".
there is nothing academic about her beliefs and when i try, she interprets me as negative.. but then she cusses like a sailor and watches certain movies with me.
her birthday is coming up and it's also right around valentine's day.
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Her birthday is coming up and it's also right around Valentine's Day. Should I get her something? What do you think?
The very first thing that comes to mind is PLEASE don't give her what I call a guy present. Really, some women are very particular and demanding when it comes to presents and gifts, so if you decide to give her something, make sure it is something that she will value, not something that will perplex her or make her roll her eyes.
That said, I wonder if you could give her a little bit of a hint about it, maybe to gauge where she's standing with the birthday gift thing. She herself may be able to tell you. If that doesn't work or not a possibility, then maybe taking a risk will be the thing to do. If you just risk it, do you think that she will go as far as taking you to a JC? And if that's the case, will you be ok with that? Measure consequences.
One more thing, and this is from my own experience. If you find that she's not cool with the birthday gift, please don't confuse that with her still being "all in". Some JWs and many ex-JWs I know can't care less about anything JW but for some reason they hold on to some of their practices. As I mentioned before, I had an ex-JW roommate who is as gay as I am and did a whole lot of wordly things, yet, he would never accept a birthday gift. The same may be the case with your wife. Even if a person is completely checked out of the WT, there are some things they still choose to keep.