that desire not to be shunned whether or not they want to be jw again is not the point for some they just do not want to be shunned any more there are sick of being shunned it's disgusting.
no human should be treated like they do not exist it's eviil..
poopie, your thread title is "New letter forces elders to finally show love to sinners". Do you really see nothing wrong with that? You really think that it's ok that people need to be told to be nice to people, to show love, to be considerate?
Call me crazy, but normal people don't need a letter telling them to have basic human decency.
so i called in to my local walgreens pharmacy to get my blood pressure medicine refilled.
i go to the pharmacy to pick it up and they tell me that the doctor has denied filling it saying to them, "prescription refill not appropriate".
i asked them what that means and they say you'll have to contact your doctor on that, sorry.
LevelThePlayingField, thank you for sharing this information about you. You may not know it, but you may be helping a lot of people with similar problems, especially many ex-JWs who may feel shame for having certain problems with drinking and other things, and are unable to talk about it.
As JWs we're told that if we live we're going to become useless, lost people. Sometimes many internalize those wrong ideas and feel unable to seek help or talk about having issues, afraid of hearing an "I told you so" from the JWs.
I don't have a drinking problem, but I know of people who seek professional help instead of relying on their own will power to stop. It is not just a simple preference and liking alcohol; sometimes your body develops a chemical dependence on alcohol, which is why it's not as simple as stopping.
It's great that you have resolved to stop, and I do not want to discourage you from doing so, but I'd suggest you that instead of a buddy, look for a doctor, clinic, or any professional, including mental health professional, who can properly assist you.
I think it's important, especially if you can clearly point at the reason why you started the drinking. Guess what, the way you feel about TTATT is still going to be there, loud and clear as soon as you stop drinking. And what are you going to do once you stop? How prepared are you to face life without relying on drinking? Your fears, worries and other things that drew you to drink will remain and/or come back if you just stop drinking.
If you want to be successful, I'd suggest to no just deal with the effect of you drinking, but also deal with eh cause, that is, what made you start drinking in the first place. I wish you the best, and I hope you remain sober for your mental and physical health.
saw this dated 2/26/2017, seems to be from 12/2015.. .
even in a religious culture that advocates the murder of victims as honorable, fathers and brothers are typically the perpetrators of horrific violence against female family members whose only crime was to be the victim of another, the killing of a child by its mother stands out as particularly unnatural and depraved.such a heinous act occurred recently in sohag, egypt when a mother of a two-year-old child took the life of her child rather than protect it from violent sexual assault by its own grandfather.. a muslim mother identified only as “merfat” was awakened by screams in the middle of the night and found her father, faraj, in the act of raping her daughter.. .
rather than acting out of a natural, protective instinct, the 23-year-old mother chose to shield her father from scandal as taught by muslim theology and sharia law.. merfat told authorities that she took her daughter, little grace ahmed, from the grandfather, placed her in a tub and held her head under water until the child drown.. alik akhmim, chief detective of the police in sohag told egyptian reporters that “traces of blood” had been found in the little girl’s anus, evidencing the degree of force and injury the child endured at the hands of her mother’s father.. this kind of act is referred to as an “honor killing” thought to place the reputation of the family above that of any individual member, and which is used to punish the victim rather than hold the perpetrator accountable.. murdering rape victims is common in countries and communities that adhere to sharia law where the crime is rarely reported for fear of exposing the family to shame.. “honor killing” is no longer limited to predominantly muslim countries or the middle east.
Interesting topic. Here's more of Christian groups that commit violent crimes:
Tony Alamo - Headed a Santa Clarita commune. Convicted of tax evasion in 1994 and then resided in a halfway house in Texarkana. In 2009, he was convicted of ten federal counts of taking minors across state lines for sex, and sentenced to 150 years in federal prison.
Shoko Asahara - Founder of Aum Shinrikyo sentenced to death by hanging under Japanese law for involvement in the 1995 Sarin gas attack on the Tokyo subway.
Wayne Bent (aka: Michael Travesser) - Founder of Lord Our Righteousness Church, sometimes called Strong City. Was convicted of one count of criminal sexual contact of a minor and two counts of contributing to the delinquency of a minor in 2008. Was sentenced to 18 years with eight years suspended.
Graham Capill - former leader of Christian Heritage New Zealand. Sentenced to nine-year imprisonment term in 2005 after multiple charges of child sexual abuse against girls younger than twelve.
Matthew F. Hale - Former leader of Creativity Movement sentenced to a 40-year prison term for soliciting an undercover FBI informant to kill a federal judge.
Warren Jeffs - Once President of Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints (a polygamist Mormon sect), convicted of rape as an accomplice (overturned in 2010). Jeffs also awaits trial in other states and in the federal court system.
Jung Myung Seok - South Korean religious sect leader and founder of Providence. Convicted for raping several of his followers.
William Kamm - An Australian religious sect leader and self-styled Pope Peter II who was sentenced to prison in October 2005 for a string of sexual attacks on a 15-year-old girl. In August 2007 his sentence was increased after being found guilty for a series of sexual abuses against another teenage girl over a five-year period.
Ervil LeBaron - Led a small sect of polygamous Mormon fundamentalists, and was convicted of involvement in the murder of two people and plotting to kill another person in 1981.
Alice Lenshina - Zambian head and founder of the Lumpa Church. Conflicts with the government over the sect's rejection of taxes led to a violent confrontation and her subsequent imprisonment.
Jeffrey Lundgren - Headed splinter group from Reorganized Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, executed October 24, 2006, for multiple murders.
Charles Manson - Leader of the Manson Family who is serving life for first degree murder.
Shukri Mustafa - Egyptian leader of Takfir wal-Hijra who was captured and executed for the kidnap murder of an Egyptian ex-government minister.
Fred Phelps - Leader of anti-gay Westboro Baptist Church. Convicted for disorderly conduct and battery.
Swami Premananda of Tiruchirapalli - Indian religious leader convicted and sentenced to two life sentences for the rape of 13 girls and murder in 2005.
Theodore Rinaldo - Leader of a religious group in Snohomish, Washington convicted of third-degree statutory rape for having sexual intercourse with one minor girl and of taking indecent liberties with another.
Paul Schäfer - Former head of Chile-based Colonia Dignidad, was convicted of sexually abusing 25 children.
Roch Thériault - Former head of "Ant Hill Kids commune" served a life sentence in Canada for the murder of Solange Boislard.
Yahweh Ben Yahweh - Head of Nation of Yahweh, convicted for Federal racketeering charges and conspiracy involving 14 murders.
Dwight York - Head of Nuwaubianism, convicted in 2004 of multiple RICO, child molestation, and financial reporting charges and sentenced to 135 years in prison.
I agree. Rational thinking is pretty much gone.
i am a non-jw and have been in an unhappy marriage for a few years now.
i met a nice man at work, we had a laugh together and got to know each other.
we were both really attracted to each other.
I really dont understand any of this and would be really grateful for an explanation of him feeling really scared, even though the way he acts is on the contrary to what a JW would do. I just need to understand so i can move on.
Nothing to understand, the guy is a sex addict asshole. Whether the guy is/was a JW plays no role in it.
has this question ever been answered by wt or biblical apologetic?.
if near the beginning of her creation, would she not have had the effective development of a a toddler or even a baby?.
if so, would you sentence a toddler or a baby to death for grabbing an appealing candy from a bowl?.
There was no Eve, no talking snake. That's a fable.
knocked on a door on a saturday morning.
a window opened on the floor above me.
a grizzled old man stuck his head out and said, " we're all heathens here!
" We're all heathens here!"
That wouldn't have stopped me at all. I'd start inquiring about what that means, or I'd come up with anything that would keep the conversation going.
I just got a straight forward F#@k off.
That may have stopped me.
hey guys!
i'm new on this site and am a non jw here married to a jw.
my husband's family are active members and they daily post articles on facebook from jw.org which i know is meant for me to see and read.
At first I was going to say that based on the architecture of the column in the back, it looks like it's Roman, or roman inspired, I'd say. The structure is not an ancient structure at all. If you look at the wall you can clearly see that there's no way any ancient structure would look like that or would be made of those materials. Then the walls reminded me of a place I was last October. A simple Google search lead me to:
That is a sculpture named "The Torment of Marsyas", from the Department of Greek, Etruscan, and Roman Antiquities: Hellenistic Art (3rd-1st centuries BC), Museum of Louvre, Paris, France.
I agree with smiddy regarding the obsession that the WT has with Jesus of Nazareth not being crucified. I don't get it. I hope this shed some light.
My stance is that to me that's not relevant. If you believe or not in Jesus, how is his sacrifice affected by the position in which he was murdered?
now they are not printing between 40 and 60 million magazines a month what do people think they are doing with the money?.
Yes, they have a real estate business. They are making money from it. Just like the rest of the publishing industry in the world, they shifted focus to more profitable ventures.
My mother told me that the operation of that TV studio is really, really expensive!!!
God needs your money!
LOL!
the june 2017 watchtower tells the experience of a bible student who was homeless and unkempt, but improved his appearance after being preached to.. peter began to change.
he bathed, neatlytrimmed his beard, and put on the betterclothes that don offered him.
peter continued to maintain a clean appearance.. so here we see that with a neatly trimmed beard the watchtower's writers view him as having "a clean appearance".
I wonder what if anything will tat make people want to join. Or maybe they just purposely want the old timers to suffer or die of bitterness.
i went to meeting today and the sister in front of me was upset song 134 now song 139 no longer contains jehovahs name.
they took it out.
i never even noticed .
Finally some good news.
