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  A scientist did better than all religious founders and teachers

  by venus in

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  thinking people have always sought a right reason for people to feel self-motivated to love each other (which is the goal of all religions).

  in the process each religious leader presented some reasons which were not adequate because division appeared once the founder left the stage.. however, carl sagan (astronomer, astrophysicist, and science-fiction novelist ….etc) got it right when he wrote: “for small creatures, such as we, the vastness is bearable only through love” (contact, chapter 24 p. 430).

  when an interviewer said this was the best of his quotes and asked him to put it in simple words, sagan said: “we exist in vastness of the universe, hence should have vast (great) mind of treating every one as residing/subsisting on the same (planet) home who breathe the same air (in contrast to going into smallness of contraction with each one seeking own interest).

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  ...people have always sought a right reason for people to feel self-motivated to love each other...
  

  That's the problem right there if you ask me. That seems based on the premise that people aren't capable or naturally interested in being kind to each other, which is not necessarily accurate.

  In any event, science can explain many things way better than religion, but I'm not sure that something like love can be scientifically explained, or how can it promote loving each other, other than by choice. Although many religions preach "love", but not to gay people, not to fornicators, not to rape victims, and for as long as they say it's the right thing to do, otherwise people deserve to die.

  There's no science or religion that can make that right in any way shape or form.
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  PLACE OF PILGRIMAGE

  by Hairtrigger in

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  it just struck me while reading another post on the forum.

  the catholics have numerous shrines all over the world and places of pilgrimage and the mother of them all ... rome.

  the muslims have mecca and medina.

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  Yes, they are no different than any other religious organization.
  
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  Another family needlessly torn apart

  by Visitor1984 in

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  2. experiences

  i'm feeling very angry tonight as i watched my mother in law end her relationship with my husband, her son, tonight.

  we were happily inactive, enjoying a distant but decent relationship with my in laws until they saw some christmas decorations and everything changed.

  i spent two hours getting drilled on whether my husband and i celebrate holidays, to be told that my laws won't socialize with us anymore.

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  I'm posting this to vent my anger and for any lurkers. I lurked for a long time too. This religion does not reflect normal loving family behavior. If it doesn't feel right, follow your gut, it probably isn't.
  

  Thank you for sharing your thoughts. I'm sorry to hear about your mother in law. You have every reason to be angry, and never forget that you guys are the ones with the right set of morals. I hope things change for the better in the future.

  You are venting your anger and not asking for advice or suggestions, so I'll just offer you a hug.
  
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  A Religion of Faithful Parrots

  by Hapthor1986 in

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  it's funny as i reflect back on my days as a witness during the watchtower study.

  it seems like no matter what the question asked.

  it was like parrots squawking back exactly what they had just heard with absolutely no thought or even the slightest expression of free will.

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  Interesting that they call it "questions and answers" and they are, only that both the questions and their answers come from the same source.
  
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  Crop circles

  by Chook in

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  what causes them ?.

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  As much as I like the God farts explanation, the crop circles were a stunt from some artist looking for notoriety, so I'll have to go with Village Idiot, people.
  
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  "Overlapping Generation" is a "Spiritual Generation" - a letter to the governing body

  by jwleaks in

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  11 march 2017. dear governing body of jehovah's witnesses,.

  could you please introduce the phrase "spiritual generation" to replace the phrase "overlapping generation".

  it would save us all a lot of confusion.. an online search of your publications dating back to 2000 showed that this term has never been used.. http://wol.jw.org/en/wol/s/r1/lp-e?q="spiritual+generation"&p=par.

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  It would save us all a lot of confusion.
  

  That seems based on the assumption that (a) they give a rat's behind about their people and (b) they want people not to be confused.

  Good luck.
  
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  Don't be afraid to go to college

  by LevelThePlayingField in

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  i thought this was a good video showing how the logic is faulty from the gb.

  just bare with lett for a minute.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1otsrp0bp4.

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  Look at this:

  

  If you don't know who they guy on the right is, Google "Marshall Applewhite" and "Heaven's Gate Cult". That's all I can say about this.
  
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  I have just watched The Godfather movies 1,2 &3 this past week.

  by smiddy in

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  many years ago i had only seen the third movie and had never seen the first two for some reason ,so i saw them on stan this past week and enjoyed every second of it.. their were even occasions i could see the gb being depicted in it s portrayal of the rc church... its 45th anniversary is coming up this week since it was first shown in cinemas.

  what is your view of this trilogy ?

  what were your fav .moments , comments made in the movies?.

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  What is your view of this trilogy ? What were your fav .moments , comments made in the movies?
  

  Well made movies, too many moments to mention. Glad that you enjoyed them.
  
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  Way to make me look stupid . . .

  by Coded Logic in

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  when the arc made their recommendations to the society last year i genuinely thought we'd see some real changes.

  oh sure, i expected a lot of feet dragging, double talk, and general nonsense - but at the end of the day i was certain the society would do what they legally had to and then run around claiming:.

  ) these new policies and procedures aren't really new we've always done them.

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  I had hoped the Society was finally going to get it's act together and start taking some concrete steps to prevent and address sexual child abuse. Instead, they've decided to do next to nothing and only tacitly update their policies and procedures. It's so sad.
  

  It is a cult, a high demand, controlling group with no interest for any people and no interest in anybody's well being other than their own. Hard to swallow, but the sooner you get it the better for you.
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  This week's wt paragraph 13 and 15 free will

  by poopie in

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  does forcing people to shun other people violate free will?

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  Does forcing people to shun other people violate free will?
  

  poopie, why do you keep using the word "forcing"? I'm not defending the WT, but it's inaccurate to describe their control tactics as "forcing".

  In any event, no. First, they do not force people to do anything, precisely because otherwise they will be violating the law, which they don;t need to do since they, well, don't force people. They mislead, coerce, misinform, misrepresent, and downright lie, but nope, they do not force people to do anything. The one thing that they make sure is not violating people's free will, and using the tactics that they use, they don't need to.