Posts by scratchme1010

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If you could see the future would you use it?

by purrpurr in

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if you had the ability to know what the future held would you use this ability?.

jws say that jehovah can see the future but he just choses not to.

which never made sense to me, as if he did use that ability then a lot of the stuff that went wrong could have been avoided.. it never made sense.

scratchme1010

What do you think?

Never makes sense. Seeing the future is the least of senseless things that the WT says.

If I could see the future, I couldn't see the future, because it becomes different every time I change something based on it.

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Even if it's not the truth, it's still the best way to live

by Simon in

how many times did you hear that gem?

it often went along with "the truth is a protection" which is their way of saying "living a moral life is good for you ... and you can't do that without us".. but think about what people are really saying.

i think the real message is "i know it's not the truth, but i chose to follow it anyway".. it seems like a pre-emptive argument because they know they can't defend it as "the truth" so instead they switch to defending it as a lifestyle.. of course any kind of lifestyle that has a decent moral ingredient to it, respect for law and order, discipline etc... probably increases people's chances of doing better in life, but they don't have a monopoly on it.. so just remember, next time you hear someone saying "even if it's not the truth" what they are really admitting is that they already know it isn't..

scratchme1010

Interesting post.

Of course any kind of lifestyle that has a decent moral ingredient to it, respect for law and order, discipline etc... probably increases people's chances of doing better in life, but they don't have a monopoly on it.

Actually, what I hate the most about that "ostrich-like" attitude is that they still attack other healthy moral ways of living. They do attempt to have a monopoly on their righteousness.

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John travolta and watchtower

by yalbmert99 in

john travolta was look for the church of scientology but ended up at the watchtower.... travolta.

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LOL!

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If we are further away from perfection, why are we more moral?

by stuckinarut2 in

as we know, witnesses teach that adam and eve were perfect and then committed the first act of sin and rebellion.. they in turn were cursed,and we all declined as their offspring.

humans supposedly lived shorter and shorter lives, and became more imperfect and sinful.. the further away in time humans go then, they should be getting worse.

so why is it then that as a society, humans have actually improved in so many ways?.

scratchme1010

So why have we improved as a society even though we are now so "far from perfection"?

My two cents: we develop as a society because that's what human beings are about. I used the word "develop". I'm not sure from what angle one can look at humanity in general and see "improvement". We have advances, conveniences, technology, better means and know-how on things that we never did before, but as society we are (IMO) not that great in terms of "improvement".

That said, we're definitely better that Adam and Eve for the simple fact that we actually exist and they never did.

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Anyone know what the special talk is this weekend?

by charity7 in

non jw so thank you for bearing with me.

do special talks happen with individual congregations or is it throughout?

i was told by my husband that i had to go with him and the rest of his family to the special talk that was happening this weekend.

scratchme1010

I refuse to because 1) his unchristian attitude towards me in regards to my beliefs and 2) I cannot with a good conscience support (by being in attendance) the deceit and lies being taught. Thank you guys for listening and thank you ahead for any comments.

...not to mention that there's absolutely nothing wrong with being unchristian. Now please bear with me. At the time when I was just out, that is within the week when I decided that I was completely untied with the WT, there was one of those "special talks" or announcements, etc. My family invited me, and they told me that they were reaching out to all people who were no longer attending. I told my family that my disinterest in the WT is 100% and that to me it makes no difference if I go or not, even if it is to that one instance.

They didn't like my answer and that was the beginning of the end of my relationship with my JW family.

That was in the late 80's. Those things are stupid tricks from the WT, lame attempts at making people believe that there's some universe changing announcement that will impact life as we know it. For as long as that stupid tired trick works with some people and keep making life difficult for people who want to leave and know better, they will continue doing that nonsense.

Sorry you have to go through that.

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Growing up JW kid: do you recognize

by Gorbatchov in

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born in 1970, 4th generation jw and parents who were loyal to but could also think on their own.. my father always said, the show goes on, so he had a respectable community job, advisor of the city counsel of the town.

and buying ald building houses for us.

we were on the move.. what i remember is the many conversations at home about the other witnesses.

scratchme1010

My original question was: do you recognize this?

Not at all. I think that you were fortunate to have a father with some degree of power and recognition in the community. That may have influenced the way he was perceived in the congregation.

What I do recognize is the never buy-into the WT nonsense. Growing up I never cared for any of it.

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spontaneous kindnesses

by zeb in

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the helper’s high.

when people help others, it makes them feel good.

we get what researchers call a “helpers high,” or a profound sense of well-being and optimism associated with helping.. and the impact goes further than just the emotional.

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Thank you for this. Hopefully it bring some more goodness to all of us.

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So, any comments from the Memorial?

by NewYork44M in

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perhaps i missed the comments, but i did not see a lot of comments from, or about, the memorial.

it happened last night, right?.

in years past the jwn board was hot with comments.

scratchme1010

So, any comments from the Memorial?

No.

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Missing the Memorial first time in 34 years

by oppostate in

my wife has left to pick someone else's bible study half an hours drive north of us to bring them to the kh 20 minutes south of us, and pick up two other people on the way.. this is the first memorial in 34 years that i won't be at the kh to "celebrate".. if i want to "remember" jesus christ sacrifice and his command to keep doing so, i'm doing so on my own terms.

not controlled by a despotic, oligarchical gobo which directs most attending folks to be there but to "skip" the very thing jesus command explicitly mentions to do.

i'm also convinced that it doesn't have to be exactly on the same lunar month evening as the jewish passover, but that "whenever" it is commemorated by someone, with faith in christ, and belief in his promises it would be best to do it not for show or for the sake of appearances but sincerely out of one's feeling of "communion".. if you are a christian believer are you going to the memorial this year?

scratchme1010

Should I congratulate you guys, or say happy non-memorial year? What's the right way of showing solidarity? Either way, it is a big deal for those who are fading and separating from the WT.

I'm glad that you posted here.

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You will be with me in Paradise

by AmyWatson916 in

i'm reading a book called, "what to do when they knock".

it points out that on page 36 of the 2014 "what does the bible really teach?

" book jesus promises the criminal, "you will be with me in paradise.

scratchme1010

None are right. It's all nonsense. Seriously, I'm not being a smart mouth. None of it is right; it's all nonsense.