watchtower ever “simplifies” its “arrangements”.
no more food.
one-day circuit assemblies…no more “special assembly day”--it was a sad occasion anyways.
Watchtower ever “simplifies” its “arrangements”. No more food. One-day circuit assemblies…no more “Special Assembly Day”--it was a SAD occasion anyways.
Those things are not changed for no reason. They will "simplify" the baptism of people only if/when there's something better for them that advances their interest, i.e., make more money, save money, control people better. Those are the only reasons for them to make changes, unless they are legally bound to make them.
oh so it's jesus fault the spiritual food hasn't been perfect!
we your governing body are just responsible for serving it!
think about this people, they are saying it was jesus who told us the end was going to come in 1975. then before the 1914 generation passed away no later than the 1990's.
They are trying to wash their hands from all their filthy actions. Dirty disgusting cowards, don't even have spine to take full responsibility.
hello there, i'm illusive.
raised around jw family.
never baptized, 32 years old.
Welcome. I find interesting your choice of studies. I'd love to hear your thoughts about the WT teachings vs what you learned in college.
the wt articles for the past 2 weeks were the typical every-3-months-or-so attempt at justifying the sovereignty of the jw popes, the governing body.. aside from the usual specious reasoning and ridiculous assertions, i noted this:.
the articles went through great semantic pains to emphasize that, for the jws, jesus is "the leader", while the gb are merely "those taking the lead".. what, exactly, is the difference between a "leader" vs. "one who is taking the lead"?.
in what other sphere of human experience is such semantic pretzel logic even close to rational?.
Within the context if what the WT is explaining, it is as LoveUniHateExams states. A real leader is not a dictator, but for the Wt and the GB it is like that. They are attempting at presenting themselves as followers of the leader's directions, though we all know well how they really are and what they really do.
They justify whatever they tell people to do as "we're following what our leader, Jesus is saying", freeing them from responsibility and consequences of their actions and decisions.
it appears that the governing body members today are part of the great crowd and are not of the anointed.. to those with some knowledge of the subject, is it possible that the christian congregation would eventually be lead by those who are not anointed?
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I though this was an obscene post.
i received a phone call, "is that (name)?".
i was working my way around a car park and answered.
"yeah hang on" at which the caller hung up.. this is a scam where they are wanting you to confirm who you are so they can move on identity theft.. the voice was male clear like a professional announcer.. i have reported this to the relevant authorities.. i have also frozen my bank account..
I received a phone call, "Is that (name)?"
I was working my way around a car park and answered
"yeah hang on" at which the caller hung up.
This is a scam where they are wanting you to confirm who you are so they can move on identity theft.
The voice was male clear like a professional announcer.
I have reported this to the relevant authorities.
I have also frozen my bank account.
Even when I recognize the caller, when they ask my name first my reply is always "Who's this?". I never answer with my name. Normally, unless I am expecting a call from a doctor, a store, or something I know will call me, i never answer the phone when I don't recognize the number. So far I've never had a problem.
i'm going through an extremely hard and dark time right now and really yearned for the support of people i know in the flesh, and i really thought revealing my serious doubts and frustrations to a few close friends who became inactive several years ago would help.
they attend the memorial and no more than 2 sunday meetings each year, and haven't preached for several years, so are still technically baptised-but-inactive.. it broke my heart or at least left me feeling very alone when they all (they don't know each other and live in separate areas) told me that they can sympathise but reckon i should stay with "the truth" (their words, still) as it's the best thing there is.
it's like i'd discovered a new group of people, not pimo (physically in, mentally out, like me) but pomi (physically out, mentally in).
It broke my heart or at least left me feeling very alone when they all (they don't know each other and live in separate areas) told me that they can sympathise but reckon I should stay with "the truth" (their words, still) as it's the best thing there is. It's like I'd discovered a new group of people, not PIMO (physically in, mentally out, like me) but POMI (physically out, mentally in). It's ridiculous. The "truth" still has such a hold over some people, but clearly not enough to motivate them to actually attend meetings and all the other stuff.
I'm sorry to hear that you didn't get the support from people that you expected it. I experienced the exact same thing many times. Just because a person is not active or not attending, it doesn't mean that the person doesn't believe in the WT teachings.
I for once was both surprised and baffled when a gay roommate I had, who attended meeting with his mom as a child until he was 10, never baptized, and did all kinds of things that gay single men do, didn't accept my happy birthday card because of the WT nonsense. Some people still keep those believes as true, and they just don't attend. I've experienced similar reactions from ex-JWs when they find that i was a JW and stop talking to me or treat me differently.
If that's the case, I know that it feels like hurt right now, but you really don't need that nonsense in your life. There are plenty more ex-JWs who can understand and give you true support. The POMI's are everywhere. It is their process, their decision and their dysfunction. My suggestion is to just keep looking for support in other ex-JWs who are more functional that way.
the congregation i attend had it's watchtower study on thursday night because of l.d.c work this week-end, and another congregation i have some not very spiritual friends in had their watchtower study on wednesday.
from what i have delicately prised out of people, the congregations loved the watchtower study this week, saying it was so encouraging and all the usual stuff, with no-one seeming to realise the g.b.
said they're not inspired, so the spirit int he past has moved them to teach wrong things, and all the other ideas excellently summed up on reddit.. today's watchtower will wash over the heads of most j.w's like it never even happened, the all remaining as loyal as ever, and it makes me so, so sad..
Today's Watchtower will wash over the heads of most J.W's like it never even happened, the all remaining as loyal as ever, and it makes me so, so sad.
They are brainwashed and conditioned to believe anything and everything that they are told. It's not possible to expect any other reaction (or lack thereof).
i know this is sad but last night was the first time we have had a non-witness affiliated visitor to my home.
we have had workmen and the such but never someone over for a meal and just visit.
it was very impromptu.
I don't think that's a sad thing. Some JWs never ever ever get to experience that in their entire lifetimes. I'm happy for you.
my oldest daughter once worked at a convenience store/gas station for a muslim gentleman.. he had two sons - the older one @ university, and the younger worked with my daughter.. well, my daughter said the younger was blackmailing the older because the older was in possession of a bible!.
she also said the young man confessed to her that he often times went to a soul food joint way out in the country and ordered pork chops.
she said he told her they tasted soooo good.. lol.. sylvia.
She also said the young man confessed to her that he often times went to a soul food joint way out in the country and ordered pork chops. She said he told her they tasted soooo good.
That reminds me of the JWs I'd see in gay clubs two towns over.
