Posts by scratchme1010

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The point at which you think this may not be the truth

by LevelThePlayingField in

i remember one of the nights that i found out the truth wasn't the truth, that is after finding out about the united nations, i remember riding my bicycle from like 1am till 5am in the city night.

it was rather chilly, maybe about 55-60 degrees and i was playing pink floyd's dark side of the moon album in my earbuds.

just riding and riding, not really tiring because of the thought that 7 men in brooklyn had duped me, duped me for like 20 plus years.

scratchme1010

Thank you so much for sharing. I'm sure that like you, there are others lurking and reading and maybe thinking critically for the first time in their lives.

All the times I used to cringe when someone on this site would say that they are a cult, I thought, no, don't have to go that far. But now after 4 years I have nothing to say but yes, if you study the whole religion and really pay attention to everything, you too will see that they are indeed a cult.

This, in my experience, has been a rather common occurrence, and not only with JWs, but with the public in general. There are many misconceptions about what cults are, so many people react when they use that label to identify any group that they belong.

I'd suggest to research more about those groups and how they are, as there are different types of cults, there are different levels of harm that they cause, and there are also different types of things that people have to recover from. That can help you gain more perspective (that is, if you still need to).

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I met a 104 year old man today

by Bad_Wolf in

i was at a mall trying on shoes and this old man is in a wheelchair near me.

says how he thought those shoes were sharp and he had never worn brown shoes before and that he is 104 years old.

i said no way and asked what year he was born.

scratchme1010

I haven't heard of any cult or any legitimate religion that doesn't get in trouble every time they try to predict the end of the world or some kind of drastic change.

In fact, the cults with the shortest longevity are those "Doomsday" cults, those that attach dates and have people "prepare" for the end or for some kind of drastic event that ill happen.

The WT keeps trying to explain things away, and of course, none of it makes sense (because it's all just top notch bullshit since the beginning). However, the WT has been masterful in doing a few things right. One is not giving a specific date, "it's around the corner". Another one is conditioning their people to believe whatever crap they throw at them, so they don't need to be logical or right since they know that most-to-all their followers will just believe it.

They are also preparing for their religious demise.

https://youtu.be/p_aLAMAZRhI

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Convention In The News "...all questions regarding Jehovah's Witnesses are welcome"

by pale.emperor in

http://www.wday.com/news/4291635-thousands-plan-gather-jehovahs-witness-dont-give-convention.

this weekend thousands of people are gathering at the scheels arena in celebration of their faith.. jehovah's witnesses from around the world are assembling for the "don't give up" convention.. .

the morning starts with a music presentation and then continues on through the day with prayer, song, and speeches.. the theme centers around supporting each other and including everyone in the good will.. everyone is invited and all questions regarding jehovah's witnesses are welcome.. really?

scratchme1010

The theme centers around supporting each other and including everyone in the good will.

Support and inclusion are words I've never seen or heard any JW using, ever.

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Cart Witnesses Today - I am not impressed

by pale.emperor in

just approached a cart then with two jw girls holding out mags.

they continued chatting to each other about car insurance when i took the watchtower from one of their hands.. ok, so it looks like i'll have to get the ball rolling.

i asked if they were jehovahs witness.

scratchme1010

In my day I loved to get into a bible discussion.

The WT doesn't rely on them anymore, that's all. They can do whatever they want.

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What??

by Tahoe in

this is on a legitimate website .

.

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Sounds like A Organization to me...What a bunch of Bullsh@t.

by Buster k in

hello and hope is family a nice day today, much love and hope to all.

well that is how i am feeling now, not yesterday when i wanted just the opening of july broadcast of the cult, no really the opening 15 minutes is full of 100 percent horse $#it.

right when you have the host with that spandex hating dude talking about how the subject of this month is organized to do jackrabbit will.

scratchme1010

I'd love your stile if I could understand a word of what you are saying.

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The coordinator of cong visited me last night

by Chook in

he ran into me a work and asked could he come , i said only if you're by yourself and don't wear company garb.

3 hours later and i might as well talked to myself.

i used every illustration and persuasive argument.

scratchme1010

3 hours later and i might as well talked to myself. I used every illustration and persuasive argument.

I hope that doesn't surprise you. Again, presenting facts and evidence alone will do little if nothing at all. If you have been a JW, you should know that yourself.

3 hours of your life that you will never get back.

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july 4th

by zeb in

jw
friends

happy independence day all the american readers.

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scratchme1010

Thank you.

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Why I think the Trinity doctrine is an irrelevant talking point with JWs, and what I believe could be a better approach.

by Island Man in

there are no authentic/uncontested bible verses that prove a trinity.

the trinity doctrine is arrived at by inferences - not unlike the way that jws arrive at the doctrine that jesus is michael the archangel.

the jw proof texts against the trinity are at least as strong, if not stronger than, trinity proof texts.

scratchme1010

Interesting. My approach is more on how relevant that is in the bigger scheme of things. If you believe differently than what the WT says, they claim that you will get killed. To me, that is more important to address.

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chasing me for a report

by Phoebe in

jw
friends

i'm fairly new on here and i've told a lot of my story but to recap, after 60 odd years i've stopped going to the meetings.

my husband had already left the truth years ago and my children didn't become jws.(phew!).

i had a horrendous childhood growing up as a witness which included sexual assault by a close relative, also a jw.

scratchme1010

But how do I handle this?

First, big hug. It's quite A story and that's the least that we all can give you.

I don't know the specifics about your relationship with other JWs or any other attachment that you may have, even if you decided to stop going. I say this simply because it's impossible for me to completely erase my first 23 years of life born-in and raised a JW, leave alone 60 years.

I'm also inquiring because I could tell you what I would do, which is not advise, nor is it something I necessarily encourage you to follow.

What I would do is that every single time that every single JW contacted me, I would not drop the topic of the abuse and the letter, and talking to the elders, and them turning their backs on you. I wouldn't miss the slightest opportunity to give them a reminder.

To me, doing that: (a) would give me the power to let them know what needs to be addressed if they want to deal with me at all, (b) will force them to either address the issue or leave you alone once and for all.

Again, this is what I would do. Another course of action is just letting them go. Be always busy, always "will call them back", always have something to do and never have all the time in the world for them. remember, you are no longer supposed to be obligated (you never were, anyway) to drop everything and talk to them just because they say so.

One more thing is that you have a great asset, which is your non-JW family, and a husband who knows where you are coming from. Use them, get closer to them, get their support. I'm sure that they will be on your side.

When it comes to sexual abuse, the trauma is not just the event; it's also that disgusting coverup that people do. Sadly, religious organizations (many, though not all), are as guilty of doing that very same harmful thing.

I hope this helps, and another hug.