Posts by scratchme1010

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Did a current or ex-JW help you to awaken?

by TweetieBird in

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was there something that was said to you that got the wheel turning in your brain, that caused you to start waking up to ttatt, either by a jw or ex-jw that you didn't know was awake?

i'm trying to think of things i can say or ask of my current family members still in that may help them to start seeing the real truth about the organization.

they think we're still in..

scratchme1010

People like to say you can't wake up a JW they have todo it themselves. I agree to a point but having the information out there is very important so when one is ready they can wake up. Plantings seeds is also very helpful and this is what helped to wake me and a friend up. So I think it's very important that former JWs stay active in planting seeds and activism.
Don't let people saying JWs won't wake up unless their ready stop you!

I completely agree. I think something more accurate to say is that people cannot expect immediate results by showing things like facts and their own misleading words. But yes, some ex-JWs start rethinking and replaying past conversations, and remember things they have heard prior, but under a different light.

If at all, it takes time.

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My non-belief actually make me a more moral person!

by stuckinarut2 in

no doubt we have all heard the statement from witnesses and christians in general that those who leave the faith only do so because they want to sin, or they feel guilty or whatever.... the reality is, i reckon we are all more "moral" now that we have left!.

many of us contribute to humanitarian efforts, community groups, welfare groups, etc.. many of us actually do something tangible to assist people.. we don't look with critical eyes on them or their lives.. and most importantly, we do not joyfully await the mass genocide of men, women, children and babies by a petty, jealous, and tyrannical god!.

thoughts?.

scratchme1010

I have shared several times the same thing. I started, and I still do, feel more respectable, decent and with better morals once I left. Part of it (in my case at least) was that since I was born in I felt I never had the opportunity of defining my own set of values or to choose to be a good decent person on my own. All I heard during my life as a JW was that we have to do this or that because Jehovah says so.

Then there is the proverbial "do as I say not as I do" culture I grew up in my JW family and the congregations. I saw way too many two-faced hypocrites to mention.

Finally I realize that spirituality, and therefore, our own sense of decency and morals, come from the inside out, not from the outside in. Good, healthy spirituality gives you that same sense of being a morally clean person, as opposed to those morally bankrupted hypocrites in the WT who only behave in a seemingly moral way superficially.

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JWs are more at fault than those Bible writers

by venus in

bible writers were somewhat naïve with regard to many subjects.

through old testament, bible writers paint a god who exalts one nation over others.

and through new testament, they paint him who exalts one of his children over the rest (something god cannot do—deuteronomy 10:17; romans 2:11).

scratchme1010

They simply ignore all the mistakes Bible writers have made, and also try to justify them wherever possible.

Or every bible believer ignores that possibility that the bible may not have anything to do with god.

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Going out in service.

by Fader812 in

i loved going out in service, i would empty my book bag out on the counter at the laundromat, walk out and go get a doughnut, i had a lot of hours and placements on my time card.

i really hated talking to people, the anxiety was too much for me to handle, good thing my service partner felt the same way..

scratchme1010

...good thing my service partner felt the same way.

How so? As a JW I never had one person that would go with me to preach, and I never had a saying about who I'd go with. We were always paired up with people. You always went to preach with that one person only?

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Is there a risk using jw library app on cellphone

by Gorbatchov in

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friends

this is a question about the use of the jw library app on your cellphone.. the app is mainly used by jw and maybe interested people.

in this world of big data, and less privacy, any government can track users of this app.. it's no problem when there is nothing at stake.. but, many governments, even the more secular like france and germany, have made restrictions for jw's.. what if you are a government official and jw?

do you want to be tracked for being one?.

scratchme1010

But, many Governments, even the more secular like France and Germany, have made restrictions for JW's.

I'd suggest to check your local laws.

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What do you Think Would Happen ... if ...?

by TerryWalstrom in

what do you think would happen.... .

if the size of your city doubled and the increase in population was because jehovah's witnesses had moved in?.

or scientologists?

scratchme1010

It's been a while since I last came across one of those if scenarios. Who knows?

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Connection between shunning and Alzheimer's

by poopie in

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friends

another reason to stop social isolation..

scratchme1010

I think the point is shunning can lead to social isolation

Shunning is supposed to be social isolation, that's the very definition of it.

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Has anybody experienced a judicial committee in a private venue?

by Chook in

i think getting them to agree to a private place would give you an edge (even if the egde of their sword closer to home).

if i'm ever hauled before their kangaroo court i will only go on one of three conditions .1 non jw venue .2 with legal representation .

3 the recording of proceedings.

scratchme1010

Seems like you always mention what you do, say or plan to do, but never say what the result of your action, words or plan is.

Would you share what their response will be when you tell them?

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Starting To Wake Up

by Searching in

i suppose after lurking around for a few weeks i thought i might share my own personal story, as i think it would probably be a very freeing experience for me right now.

to start off, at 23 years old i'm actually a third-generation jw, my grandparents were baptized (my grandfather is actually an elder) when my mother was only a toddler, she was raised as a witness, then of course, married a witness and thus myself and my two brothers were born-in's.

growing up my mother was always very careful about what she taught me, all the good things for sure, about how we would live in a paradise earth and i could pet all the animals that i wanted and not worry about growing old, and she'd ask me who in the bible i'd love to see and talk with - my grandparents however, were a different story and the cause of i think, most of my childhood trauma.. they really drilled home the fact that we were the only people who were going to be saved, we were the only people that were going to survive and that everyone else was going to die horribly - that i shouldn't try to make that many friends in school because they would never be "real" friends unless they were fellow jw's and they would die anyway.

scratchme1010

Welcome. Please keep sharing.

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Land of the living dead

by hoser in

one of my children got disfellowshipped recently.

i was worried about that some of my jw friends and jw relatives would mention it to me and it would make for awkward conversation as i am glad that he is out.

i went to a jw family gathering.

scratchme1010

It is like this person has never existed.

Did you bring the subject of him? I would have, just to make a point. Also, how's your relationship with him? meybe he needs you more now than before.