i was a window cleaner, i was at the time unemployed, homeless.
i had no education to be proud of (high school one a two b's rest c's) i was a jehovahs witness.
i had been a pioneer.
Thank you for such wonderful story. Amazing reflection of your ten years out. I relate to everything except:
I kept my thoughts to myself, smiled with sincere sadness in my heart for him and walked away.
I wish I had the ability to keep my cool that way. Beautifully done.
Once again, thank you.
thought i'd start a separate discussion on the subject.. those who know me know i'm struggling with faith; i want to believe, some days i do but it becomes difficult.. many believers say there is verifiable proof of jesus' existence outside of the bible.. please post this proof..
Many believers say there is verifiable proof of Jesus' existence outside of the Bible.
Please post this proof.
It has been well proven that Jesus of Nazareth existed. That man was a real person. Jesus the miracle maker, son of god, walking on water, reviving people and turning water into wine, for that there's no proof.
From the Wikipedia:
"The main accounts of the life and teachings of Jesus are third party narratives written years after his death. The Christian Testament represents sources that have become canonical for Christianity, and there are many apocryphal texts that are examples of the wide variety of writings in the first centuries AD that are related to Jesus. Many scholars have questioned the authenticity and reliability of these sources, and few events that are mentioned in the gospels are universally accepted.
Non-Christian sources which are used to study and establish the historicity of Jesus include Jewish sources such as Josephus and Roman sources such as Tacitus. These sources are compared to Christian sources, such as the Pauline Letters and the Synoptic Gospels, and are usually independent of each other; for example, the Jewish sources do not draw upon the Roman sources. Similarities and differences between these sources are used in the authentication process."
When it comes to the reliability of the Bible as it refers to Jesus and his teachings there are differences of opinions (some of which have caused wars and death).
My own belief is that Such person existed, but he wasn't what Christianity says he was.
hello, i've been lurking for quite some time here on this forum, reading a whole lot and i've finally made the courage to create an account as a form of escape and in hopes to be understood and not feel "mentally diseased".
little background on me, i am a born in but i consider myself a pimo (physically in mentally out).
i feel like i've always had doubts but these doubts would sink with the meetings and the assemblies and every other little thing that drowns any doubts a witness may have.
Welcome Jules. It is insane and undeserved to be labeled "mentally diseased" simply because you have a mind of your own. Please feel free to share as much as you wish.
Whatever you don't feel ready for or disagree, just let it go. There are many good people in this forum, and there are many perspectives too. Take what you like and leave the rest.
after yesterday's newspaper articles about how jw (mis)handle child abuse cases, today the newspaper reports that both members of the national house of representatives, and the national commissioner on human trafficking and sexual violence against children are petitioning the minister / secretary of state to launch an investigation into jw and other closed religious communities.. the newspaper article (in dutch).
the newspaper also published the personal story of a victim, and how he fought for justice within jw to no avail.this story is from my home town (just few years before i move there), different congregation in the same hall..
Good for JW children, but overall, that approach is more based on what is news than preventive.
i suppose this is one of those pieces of news that could have been posted in the entertainment section.. yes, isis fighters have been caught by the iraqi army trying to flee mosul dressed as women.. some have been caught wearing the full face veil.
a sensible choice, as it hides those masculine cheekbones, heavy jaw or five o' clock shadow.
others have been more creative, dressing like prostitutes in a shakespeare play.
Apparently, ISIS fighters have been caught fleeing Mosul dressed as women ...
Just like Americans who shove condoms with cocaine up their asses to bring to the USA.
how many jdubs are going out in service anyway because "they have to get their time in.
" that's some "best life ever!
" you guys got going on!
its saturday morning and its pouring down rain...
I can't care less about what the JWs do. Can you send some of that rain to the northeast? We're in the middle of a heat wave.
amidst of many barriers such as no birthday celebration, no blood transfusion, no voting, no political career, no military service, no national anthem, no higher studies ….. i felt handicapped.
isn’t seriousness of the ego and joyfulness of egolessness?
isn’t true religion all about a celebration of life?
Is true religion all about being serious?
I wouldn't say that, but it's certainly not about freedom or spontaneity. Organized religion tries to control the way people live and makes decision. Christian religions are based on the premise that all humans are not supposed to even be alive and that "God" lets us live even though we don't deserve it. From that premise is that they then start ruling people's lives claiming that it's all to please the god that they claim had mercy on our worthless lives.
hey everyone, long time lurker, first time poster.
i'm currently in a jehovah's witnesses household, which is very deep into the "truth".
i woke up a few months ago, and i haven't told my parents yet.
Anyways, I've been thinking of coming out for a while now and when I do I want to have a reason why they should leave too. Anyone have any good points I could make?
Not sure why, but your post doesn't sound real to me. Probably because you don't give a lot of details. In any event, if you are still living with your parents and feel ready to make that decision, you should be able to feel capable of living on your own. Are you an adult? If so, can you support yourself? If so, why are you still living with your parents?
If you are not an adult, then you are to follow your parents rules for as long as they support you and they are legally bound to take care of you. If that's the case, then prepare to leave when you are old enough to do so.
Just telling your parents, the people who are putting a roof over you, that you want to leave, or convincing them that what they believe to be the best way of raising you is based on nonsense may not be on your best interest.
If you know the basics on the JWs by now you should know that it's not just leaving or convincing them; it's about a number of decisions that they have made, including the way they chose to raise you, that you are up against.
Prepare for it by becoming as independent as possible. Living under their roof may not be in your best interest.
i've created a poll here: https://goo.gl/7xburo.
i'd be interested in seeing the results.. .
#qp_main1119848 .qp_btna:hover input {background:#00355f!important} #qp_all1119848 {max-width:815px; margin:0 auto;}if watchtower scrapped the shunning policy due to "new light" and your family suddenly agreed to speak to you again would you accept them back?.
I voted no because being JWs is only one of my many messed up things in my family. Has nothing to do with the WT.
My stance with whatever the WT says and does is very simple: it doesn't matter. Has no relevance in my life.
this guy has to have the most courage of anyone i've ever seen or balls the size of basketballs.he actually gives a good talk and has tidbits scattered about throughout his public talk with hints,suggestions,innuendos of the wt organization.i never want to go in another kingdom hall again in my life but would have made an exception just to be in this audience.
lolnotice what's going on in the audience when they realize somethings up.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqqt0y1peuu.
Wow! I'm speechless, and I always have something to say about everything.
Thank you for sharing, and thank you to Don Kennedy Albert. I think you gave a lot of us a voice.
