so like a week or 2 ago i got mad a my bible teacher and we started to debate a little.look i now that was a dumb move but im not a the best point in my life and my angry is not in the best control.
so little did i know i had a family member was listening.
so the family worship we had turned to convince me that the jw life is the best life.. after that my life is turning into shit as of now i have been having depression and now its 2x as bad..
after that my life is turning into shit as of now i have been having depression and now its 2x as bad.
You should not feel bad for expressing what you think and how you feel. They are the ones who should be ashamed for trying to stop you from doing so.
Keep that in mind. The only way that your life is turning into shit, is if you value their shit. Loving them as family doesn't mean that they can violate your personal boundaries.
how is that possible if your child is df living at home..
Current 2018 outlines ca with br says do not communicate with apostates or Df ones
Seems like they just keep going back and forth with that crap. How about ex-JWs set real, healthy boundaries and stop letting the WT dictates whether they can talk to their loved ones or not.
i haven't posted for quite a bit, decided to share my thoughts on this one, so it is a reference topic for anyone who decides to return back to the org, knowing all about the tatt.
being way for quite long for almost 15 years and all wt's activities, i have missed quite a lot including the "new light" latest updates, i found it quite hard to follow up what was going on to the meetings.
new songs, wt broadcast, videos, internet (so wt now is in favor of the internet) cartoons, and everything seemed completely new and weird to me.. reason for going back it was the severe pressure from close family members to return back to the "truth".
Reason for going back it was the severe pressure from close family members to return back to the "Truth". I guess being a son of a CO it didn't took quite long to be reinstated.
I haven't read other people's responses (purposely), but the part from your post that I quoted caught my attention. I am actually more interested in knowing a little more about your rationale behind going back. Seems to me that it's not related to your own spiritual believes, at least not at first look. So I'm curious about:
I inquire because I'd like to know if you have thought that fading or leaving a second time may continue the same family relationship conflict. In fact, your leaving a second time may be even more difficult for you to deal with the pressure from your loved ones since you gave in once.
What I'm getting at is that in or out of the WT, and regardless of your current status, your family issues will not change unless you address them properly. Could a straight talk with your JW family about your standing, spiritually and with the WT help? Seems like after 15 years, if they have not gotten your disinterest, it may be because they might need a firm clear stand on where you are with the WT?
What has been the conversation with them? Do they know exactly how you feel about the WT? Do you think they should?
first off to go would be information deemed unfit for heavily indoctrinated subjects.
no rival governments less freedom granted by existing ruler, just cogs in a huge fucking wheel would humans become.. no appealing to the masses of the benefits of their government and the horrors of the opposition.
they are all this generation knows.
i remember like it was yesterday.
my dad pounding his fist on the kitchen table and gritting his teeth as he tells me to get out!
he kicked me out of his house.
LevelThePlayingField, thank you for your post. Variances of that situation, I'm sure most-to-all of us have experienced. This is very helpful.
just for fun, some thoughts about the paradise teaching:.
will all the carnivores be transformed anatomically?
if a lion is transformed into a herbivore would it still be a lion?
The more I think about it the less I like it to be honest!
Please keep thinking.
and what other verbal nonsense did you ever hear as a one-liner to defend / promote 'the truth'.
And what other verbal nonsense did you ever hear as a One-liner to defend / promote 'the Truth'
I know when a JW is giving you verbal nonsense... when their lips are moving.
i recently posted about what would happen if my mom got sick,seeing that i'm apostate.
even today i posted on a thread about blood transfusions.. i just received a text from my brother saying that my mom is in hospital and requires a transfusion to survive....is this a coincidence?.
am i being punished by jehovah, or is the devil out to get me...i dont know anymore what to do.... things are getting too much, guess i should not have joked so much in my posts..
is this a coincidence?
Yes it is. Or maybe not, it is expected that a person at certain age starts having health problems. That's just life.
Am I being punished by Jehovah, or is the devil out to get me...I dont know anymore what to do...
Things are getting too much, guess I should not have joked so much in my posts.
Nobody is punishing you, other than your own self. Life events have nothing to do with the so-called Jehovah or the Devil.
If you love your mom, do the right thing as a human being, not because of some Jehovah nonsense.
And a bug hug. Sorry you're going through rough times.
LOL!
imo, one of the most brilliant things that rutherford did was to capitalize on the somewhat obscure, but in many ways legitimate, word jehovah as being the personal name of god.. as jehovah's witnesses (small w) morphed into jehovah's witnesses (capital w), other religions that had previously used jehovah in church names and church worship began to diminish its use.. this in turn only continued to distinguish rutherford's religion.. in addition, the watch tower corp's continued and relentless intertwining of "jehovah" and "jehovah's organization" is nothing short of sheer brilliancy.. search wt library or wol.jw.org for "jehovah" and "organization" together with words such as "please" "obey" "serve.
" the interplay is endless.. in the recent post from a former missionary / co, he states: .
"as far as the organization and jehovah, i was like everyone else.
What I thought when I saw the title of this thread:
