Posts by scratchme1010

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non jehovah witness dinner

by whatisthis12 in

so almost two weeks ago, my boyfriend(who was disfellowshiped) went to the memorial.

he hasn’t spoken to his parents, friends, or siblings for over a year because of it.

the only person he keeps in contact with is his grandma, which is who he went along with.

scratchme1010

...after i explained to him that it hurt my feelings he didn’t take me along... ...he told me his parents want to meet me. i can’t help but feel there is a catch. is this a good idea?

There may or may not be a catch, but more importantly is, DID HE ADDRESS WHAT YOU TOLD HIM? I think that the disjoint between what you say to him and moving along without him addressing any of it is what's making you grow insecure. He might not even notice that he's doing that.

One of the things that I have learned about a LOT of ex-JWs is that they refuse vehemently to think, acknowledge, leave alone talk about feelings. Talking about how any of you feel might be challenging for him. Him wanting to introduce you to his family seems like a sign of good commitment, but I have the feeling that letting things unanswered may start creating insecurities, then resentments, then other escalations.

That said, please keep in mind that what I posted is my guessing on a relationship between two people I don't know.

I wish things between the two of you grow well enough so you don't feel the need to inquire outside.

Best wishes.

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Christ's sacrifice

by dogisgod in

so, i am having lunch with a group of women with varying backgrounds.

i asked the circle how many believed in the story of adam and eve and the snake.

no one believed it literally.

scratchme1010

So Ransom is a JW thing?

As others have said, Christianity and being a Christian doesn't mean that they believe, read, interpret and/or understand the events in the bible stories the same way.

I wonder if it would have been interesting to push further and inquire about what relationship does any of it has with the values that Christianity teaches.

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Detroit the movie on Netflix anybody seen it ?

by smiddy3 in

a movie about the riots in the seventies in the city of detroit but especially with the reason for the riots and the attitude of police and how the nation treated people of colour.

and how they treated them and how the justice system failed them .. based on a true story.

i found it very confronting yet compelling to watch.. humans have a tendency to lump everybody together in the same basket ,however we are not all the same, their is good and bad in every race and culture whether they are black, white or brindle .. anybody seen it and like to comment ?.

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Anybody seen it and like to comment ?

I did a while ago, but to be honest, I also saw the documentary about the race riots in Newark, NJ in the 60s and 70s, and I can't remember which is which. It was a while ago, and all I remember is that i liked them.

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Life during the 1,000 reign???

by Joliette in

jw
friends

me and my brother recently got into a discussion about the 1,000 reign.

i told him that even after armageddon, you know that you still have to work for your salvation??

he says yes, that he is prepared to work for jehovah (wth), and that it will be a wonderful time.

scratchme1010

...but he's not a big reader. He only goes off what the brothers have said from the stage.

Hence your conversation. I had been able tho get through people who seem like they are very simplistic in their approach to going about being a JW. Use the same approach that got him there. Redirect him.

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Which post has he just read, and what's he thinking?

by Fay Dehr in

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How to "turn the tables" on still-in witness who pry about our status.

by stuckinarut2 in

jw
friends

so many of us have had (perhaps well-meaning) jws ask us questions about our inactivity, or lack of attendance at meetings.

they may pry about why..... how is this for a simple, yet straight to the point response?

to a sincere person, it may play on their mind and make them ask more questions.

scratchme1010

To a sincere person, it may play on their mind and make them ask more questions. To a fully in indoctrinated pious JW, it stops them dead in their tracks and makes a point:

Way back when I though that something like this would matter, the problem was that the JWs that camt talking to me had not good intention nor sincere interest in me or my well being. They only wanted to get "juicy dirt" to talk among themselves.

I'm sure that's not the case with all JWs, but my reality was nothing that would make me try to reason with them. They were nasty people, they were ill intended, the couldn't care less about what they should do as JWs, leave alone caring about me as a person.

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Motives Matter

by AllTimeJeff in

there is a difference between the leadership of the borg (gb 2.5, is that what they're on now?

) and the sheeples, that for a variety of reasons, stick with this nonsense.. not every jw publisher believes this stuff.

the gb knows this.

scratchme1010

So, why do you think there is so much "change" in doctrine? About things like the "generation?" Why do you think there is a lack of acknowledgement about 1914 and the generation that saw it? Why do you think they talk so little about 1914 these days?

Three reasons:

Lame attempt at remaining relevant by coming up with "new light" nonsense so people still feel like they are getting something unique that no one else does
They got sued left and right over all kinds of things from copyright infringement to sexual abuse coverups
The way society is today doesn't help their model. People read a lot less magazines and go online, and people are a lot more aware about them, and people are more rude so they have a harder time buying into going house to house preaching.

I guess there's a 4th reason, which is that they are still as full of shit as they have always been, and they want to keep that status.

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Movie-goers can be fickle (great movies that should've enjoyed huge box-office success)

by LoveUniHateExams in

just thought i'd start a thread about this topic.. john carpenter's the thing (1982) was a great film, one of his best imo.

for me, it's right up there with alien (1979) as one of the greatest sci-fi horror films ever made.

and yet one film made anything between $100 - 200 million at the box office whereas the other made only $19 million.

scratchme1010

John Carpenter's The Thing (1982) was a great film, one of his best IMO. For me, it's right up there with Alien (1979) as one of the greatest sci-fi horror films ever made. And yet one film made anything between $100 - 200 million at the box office whereas the other made only $19 million. Carpenter's classic was unlucky to be released at roughly the same time as E.T.

I totally agree. Those are great movies.

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Guess who...

by sooner7nc in

jw
friends

...just passed his last nursing final and is now a graduate nurse?.

scratchme1010

Congratulations and big hug! All of us know how hard it is, and some of us don't even make it through. I'm very happy for you.

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Are you better off as a worldly person or a JW?

by Jules Saturn in

i was having a conversation with a relative who has been inactive for several decades (part of the ‘75 generation) and he argued that a person that is a born in is better off staying in the organization rather than someone like him who lived as a “worldly” person but then became a witness later in life.

he argues that when you’re born in, all you know nothing outside of the organization, so you’re better off in than out, that’s why when born ins leave the org, they always come back.

i agree that as a born in, your social circle is composed of witnesses but i do feel that even born ins would be happier outside of the org than being in.

scratchme1010

He argues that when you’re born in, all you know nothing outside of the organization, so you’re better off in than out, that’s why when born ins leave the org, they always come back.

What a load of crap. I am living proof of:

1. That's not true, don;t need to go over details of how much better my life became after I left

2. How they claim to know what people are supposed to be or bacome if they leave

3. How stupidly naive some JWs can be

My life as a born in JW was horrible. No question about it. My worst day as a worldly person is better than my nest day as a JW, and now I have quite a history to vouch for it.

Stating that is more stupid lame attempts at mistreating and controlling born ins. Top notch bullshit.

But they are missing the most important point: Nothing bad that happens to people outside the WT has anything to do with their Jehovah crap. Even if the life of a born in turns out horrible, if anything, they have responsibility for telling their loved one to shun them.

They are a bad organization, made of lower level literacy nobodies pretending to be somebodies. Whatever bad thing happens to people doesn't change that fact.