cofty- Yes, I agree with you. Information is what makes the thought of a god very far fetched.
ToesUp- Trust is really a hard thing for me too. Being raised in a complete lie will really kill your ability to trust anything, especially religion.
has anyone else felt like they should believe something after leaving wt?
i am an agnostic atheist and its so so hard for me to believe in a god or higher power.
it just doesn't make sense.
cofty- Yes, I agree with you. Information is what makes the thought of a god very far fetched.
ToesUp- Trust is really a hard thing for me too. Being raised in a complete lie will really kill your ability to trust anything, especially religion.
has anyone else felt like they should believe something after leaving wt?
i am an agnostic atheist and its so so hard for me to believe in a god or higher power.
it just doesn't make sense.
Has anyone else felt like they should believe something after leaving WT? I am an agnostic atheist and its so so hard for me to believe in a god or higher power. It just doesn't make sense. But sometimes I feel like maybe I am just being stubborn and there might be something out there. I can't be the only person who deals with this. If you do believe, how did you get there and why? If you don't, why don't you? I don't mean to pry, I just don't really have anyone in my situation to talk to lol my whole family is JW :)
Ex JWs and those who are shunned (or will be after the convention) don't need help in a way that money can fix it. We need our family. Money doesn't help mend that hole in your life. I personally think go fund me pages are tacky unless its for a victim of disease or some sort of disaster. There is plenty of assistance for those who need shelter and food and in some places like where i live they have help with utility bills if needed. Just my two cents tho. I'm a wee bit prideful and I don't like to ask people for anything.
me and my wife were at the beach the other day and i finally told her, i don't think i believe in god anymore.
i fessed up to the fact that it started with me doubting some jw beliefs and then it just led me to this point where i don't even believe in god.
i wouldn't say that i even have a negative view towards jw's or religion in general.
For me it was opposite. I was JW and my hubs was not and never had been. Hes an atheist. He never pushed his thoughts on me. He would let me talk and then let me come to my own conclusion. We have two children currently and one on the way. It worked out fine for us to have kids. He wasnt big on holidays and birthdays anyhow so it never really was an issue for me to raise the kids JW. He did put his foot down about baptism. That was off limits until they were 18. And medical issues as well. His way of approaching it worked for me. He would drop subtle hints but never really forced anything. Finally, I came to the conclusion it was nonsense, am now atheist and we celebrated our first holidays in 2015 just because lol. Halloween being our very first. It all depends on how hardcore your wife is and how you want your kids to be raised. I see no reason to leave if you love her and she makes you happy. She may be considering what you said and feel like waiting to have kids bc she has doubts too. Do Not throw kids into a stressful mix though.
the leading metropolitan newspaper in new zealand, the dominion-post, yesterday front-paged confirmation that jws target grieving persons by trawling through obituaries for names of relatives and - unbelievably - even visiting cemeteries to approach persons tending graves (the article cites a recent watchtower that presented the experience of a sister who did just that).. an ex-jw elder and his wife (both unknown to me) were featured in the article after approaching the newspaper in response to a local elder's denial last week that witnesses deliberately obtain relatives' names from obituaries.. this is the third featured article in just over one week - and, to date, the most prominent.. of interest a "senior" elder from the sydney, australia bethel (which now has oversight over jws in new zealand) is quoted as not denying it happens - but tried to put a less damning spin on it by stating it was something that was up to individual witnesses and is not expected.
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https://www.google.com/url?q=http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/news/80708572/former-jehovahs-witness-admits-we-targeted-grief-stricken-as-ripe-fruit&sa=u&ved=0ahukewi7uj6rkpnnahvkkzqkhv9cc3cqfggfmaa&client=internal-uds-cse&usg=afqjcnepqqzpj-nokxj6e5jyw5nsd9lc1q.
Here where I live the pioneers used to go out and troll the cemeteries and preach to people on memorial day... i never did that. i thought it was disrespectful and weird.
rap, earth, wind and fire, 'let's get physical'.... types of music, performers and songs i wasn't allowed to listen to as a person in the jw corporation.. i remember jane, a self-appointed annointed, counseled me because i was an 11-year-old boy singing 'let's get physical' after a meeting.
i remember watching the video simply believing it was about exercise...lol!
but holy roller jane just had to try to ruin it for me, causing me to ponder, 'what else could it mean?'.
I was never allowed to listen to Metallica. I got a cd from my brother and it was thrown in the trash. IT WAS THE BLACK ALBUM... Now tho, I have every cd of theirs and my kids love Metallica. No wheels on the bus in our car lol We are an Enter Sandman kind of family lolololol
a little background- i faded in august 2015. ive got to small kids and one on the way.
i dont believe the jw cult nonsense anymore.. .
ok so last night i had the scariest dream.
corruptgirl
yeah I think my pregnancy hormones are definitely making my dreams more vivid and crazy...
the generation that will be no means pass away have passed away.. the 144,000 were sealed up in 1935, oh, no wait, we got that wrong, we still have some.. russel is the faithful and wise servant... oh, no he wasn't it was me, rutherford... no, actually, we got that wrong it's knorr... erm, no we mean the governing body.. shunning is pagan, true christians would never do that (1946)... oh, actually, we should do that too.. the revelation book has been re-written.. the un is the satan's visible organisation.. wtbs signs up for fellowship with the un in 1991.. exposed in the guardian newspaper so ends it's fellowship in 2001.. the greatest man book is now obsolete and replaced with another jesus book.. the mags are reduced in pages.. encouraged to use tablets instead of actual books to save paper (money).
halls being sold off.. congregations sharing halls.. society owned buildings being sold off.. video pertitioning for money only last year to fund a new building.. bethelites reduced.. missionaries sent back home.. young members leaving.. long time members discovering the history and leaving.. how long do you think this religion has left?
i cant see it being here in another 100 years.
I'd say there will always be some crack pots who believe the nonsense. I do however see a decline in the future. There are too many young people who are technologically savvy who can do research and find out what its all about. Young ones who are raised in it tend to rebel and leave which is great. I think once the older die hard witnesses die off the religion as a whole will slowly decline into just being a fringe group of looneys.
a little background- i faded in august 2015. ive got to small kids and one on the way.
i dont believe the jw cult nonsense anymore.. .
ok so last night i had the scariest dream.
azor
Thanks! I'm very happy I"m out too. It worries me sick that my parents and super indoctrinated little brother are going to do something stupid because of this cult. I drop little things on them too occasionally. I usually get the "dont bring your apostate stuff to our home" lecture but to me its worth trying.
a little background- i faded in august 2015. ive got to small kids and one on the way.
i dont believe the jw cult nonsense anymore.. .
ok so last night i had the scariest dream.
redpilltwice
Thanks! And I'm not sure, but its definitely possible. I've only been out for about 10 months and I still spend time with my deeply indoctrinated parents who are always talking doomsday. I'm sure the indoctrination is still affecting me even though I don't believe it to be true anymore. I think what we go through as jw kids affects us for a lot longer than we realize as well, or at least it has in my case.