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  Guide to Helping Other Break Free

  by LisaRose in

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  i have come up with a guide to helping others break free of the watchtower, based loosely on steve hassan's book, combatting cult mind control and incorporating experiences of other jwn posters who have been successful in helping their family leave the watchtower.

  i posted an earlier draft of this and got some great feedback.

  here is the final version with some additional information and incorporating many of your suggestions.

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  ZAPPA-ESQUE

  Nice Post ! Very pertinent points you make -

  Ultimately "they" will have to work our their own proverbial salvation -

  I have copied and saved your post to a doc. for further reference -

  Thanks very much
  
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  Elders intervening in family issues

  by gatorguy in

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  does anyone know of any good scriptures or reference articles that i can show an elder to hopefully have him stop intervening in a family issue?

  i already told him that i am the head of the house and that they're usurping my headship but they didn't seem to get the message.

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  Tell him next time that you are recording the conversation "for quality purposes" -

  I told them that they were more than welcome to "come and see me" for a Barbecue and Beer but not to have a Tribunal -

  Should they call me in for a JC, I will tell them that the entire proceedings will be videoed and I will have 2 "assistants" with me - My BiL [an intelligent non-witness and a lawyer /- friend who has offered her services] Also that there is a possibility that I will "broadcast" the said JC on various avenues of Social Media - Cant wait for the day -
  
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  2014 master thesis about JWs LOYALITY

  by fastJehu in

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  interesting (internet) finding ... after all the bunker videos on the 2016 rc.. this master thesis tries to comprehend the concept of loyalty within the jehovah’s witnesses movement.

  what does ‘loyalty’ mean to jehovah’s witnesses?

  https://openaccess.leidenuniv.nl/bitstream/handle/1887/32029/loyal%20to%20jehovah's%20good%20news%20-%20susanne%20kuipers.pdf.

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  Very apologist and the proof-reading of the Grammar is pretty bad for a Masters Thesis - lots of errors.

  Also there are no real conclusions drawn that could be regarded as new / remarkable / food for thought etc

  Especially biased are her views regarding the "errors" that WT have made - as brought out in the Walsh Case - as being no big deal and an almost natural consequence of being imperfect men ! ?

  It is therefore no surprise that she admits to having been at odd with James Pentons works on certain issues.
  
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  Nigel Forage and Stephen Lett

  by ZAPPA-ESQUE in

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  MY BEST FRIEND

  by compound complex in

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  he walked right past me, looking straight ahead.. years before, hal and i walked the same path, the best of pals.

  laughing and joking while endeavoring to maintain some level of decorum during our serious work of being a theatrical spectacle to men and angels.

  although we hadn't seen each other in years, hal must have gotten word .

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  ZAPPA-ESQUE

  This is indeed a lovely piece of writing!

  Just so true ...but I know the feeling too.

  Thanks CC

  I am going to search out your previous contributions on this forum - Do you have any other places where you put pen to paper ? Blog? Published works?
  
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  Convention Weirdness

  by BlackWolf in

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  well i just got back from 3 days in hell, and geez was this convention strange or what?

  im sure someone's probably made a topic about this already but i can't believe that there weren't any new releases besides the movies.

  has that ever happened before?

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  Don't forget to wear your tie ! A Red one like Rahabs cord !
  
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  JWs destroy archaelogical artifacts

  by John Doe in

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  thousands of years old.

  this makes my blood boil.. http://www.telesurtv.net/english/news/jehovahs-witnesses-destroy-ancient-indigenous-temple-in-mexico-20160628-0009.html.

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  Where is the proof that this is not a spoof ?

  How reliable is this story ? Do you really think [yes we have had some spectacular things from the GB] that any JW would do or condone this in any way?

  Friends told me Elvis is studying the Bible with JW's in the Memphis congo.

  UPDATE: Elvis just phoned me and told me he is studying ! You heard it first from me!
  
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  The 1975 Generation---are they still around?

  by minimus in

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  i was raised as a jw and 1975 expectations were pretty intense.

  as i recall, most people did not leave after the failed expectations but many s l o w e d down.

  now, i think most of the 1975 witnesses are gone or barely in.. is the older generation still around in the kingdom halls or are they much gone?.

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  19 Yrs old in 1975 - Baptized in Dec 74 [Just in case it did happen right ? ] - Out !

  Wife - 16 yrs old - baptized at 13 yrs - Most of her JW peers have died.
  

  My kids are Out
  
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  Disassociation Announcement

  by Paul Bonanno in

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  did anyone experience a disassociation announcement during the public meeting instead during the service meeting?.

  in my case it was announced the next day that we submitted our letter and this was on sunday instead of waiting for the service meeting on thursday..

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  Only difference between bodies of elders are the sizes of their sphincters [did I spell that right?]
  
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  Richmond, Virginia Convention Lowlights: 11-year-old Baptized / Porn Seen Accidentally

  by Funchback in

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  http://www.richmond.com/news/local/city-of-richmond/article_8dec9e79-b243-5265-80ee-fee138922f80.html.

  at this rate, soon they'll let infants get dipped:.

  lindsey jackson, 14, of king george county was among the 33 people who were baptized saturday during the first convention of jehovah’s witnesses of the summer at the richmond coliseum.

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  Village Idiot - You have small hands btw ! ..........................................................................................lol