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Zing
the basic virtue for a human being is to be true to yourself – the integrity of thought, emotion, and action.. .
ten years ago ( after 32 years as a jehovah's witness), i finally decided that my own mental sanity and being true to myself was more important than attending congregation meetings and serving the watchtower society.
i stopped (years before) field service, the ministry school, answering at the watchtower studies, missed numerous meetings and walked in minutes before the meetings started and left after the closing prayer, i knew it was time to leave.
@Sickandtired, just sent you a PM
Zing
the basic virtue for a human being is to be true to yourself – the integrity of thought, emotion, and action.. .
ten years ago ( after 32 years as a jehovah's witness), i finally decided that my own mental sanity and being true to myself was more important than attending congregation meetings and serving the watchtower society.
i stopped (years before) field service, the ministry school, answering at the watchtower studies, missed numerous meetings and walked in minutes before the meetings started and left after the closing prayer, i knew it was time to leave.
I stayed in for a couple or more years coz love my partner more than anyone, anything else in this world. refuse to break from my partner for anyone, anything, come what may! So Waited / bided my time to wake up my partner and leave together; if not I was willing to forgo freedom for beign with my partner without saying a word. Fortunately for me I have managed to wake my partner up and yippeeee we are both out for good.
So to answer the question when was it time to walk away from the meetings?...when my partner was also ready to walk away from it all!
Life is so good !
Zing
at one assembly(tm), i was asked to relate an 'experience(tm)' which i did.
however, during rehearsals, the geezer in charge elder or co or some such title, told me that i shouldn't tell it the way it was.
i did a 're-enactment(tm)' with another 'brother(tm)'.
Reading about all of your experiences in this regard makes me feel o much better now.I really mean it.
A couple or more times when I was a regular pioneer and a special pioneer (I used to get lots of parts in almost all the assemblies, not bragging just saying).two or more times this happened when the interview was supposedly arranged by the CO . He heard all my answers n experiences on the first take as normal. Then when we went through it a second time he started making suggestions to some extent I agreed coz it flowed better, but then third time round he started making outright fabrications/embroidering the experience.Once through with it, I said mate I am no longer comfy with the product now coz it is not true to what really happend so refused to make the fabrications. He was not happy, got the PO and had another chat with me to go ahead with the said fabricated result.I could not in all honesty do it so I said I cant do it , my conscience does not allow me to ,please find someone else and walked away.
I have had to do this three times at 3 different occasions.Then on no one approached me to make changes, or no parts at all. But thye could not stay away coz I did work hard and had some damn good experiences in my jdumb life!
Used to think before I read this post, that I am a very proud and head strong person not willing to listen and change the experience.But after reading this post I feel vindicated for doing the right thing and having a clear conscience.
By the way I do have my experiences endorsed into the yearbooks too by the Co.
Did it my way!
Zing
plans for december:.
a few friends and i have planned a full month of kindness , giving and sharing experiences for us to help those who may need it.. the first weekend of dec we are all going to be taking some elderly ones who are on their own, cant get out and about for christmas shopping.they are alone (except friends, no family who cares to be there for them at all) , so we thought we can take them shopping for gifts and stuff, it will help them get out too for a day or two.. second weekend will be spent with wrapping gifts ,writing cards, letters for these elderly ones and taking them out for an event which they chose to go to.
third weekend we and these elderly ones are all sharing in making different dishes ,soups,muffins, cakes etc and taking them round to the homeless shelters and giving it out to people there (volunteering there afterwards too ,they need all the help they can).. fourth weekend us friends are going with gifts to three different shelters for the homeless and donating it there plus volunteering in a soup kitchen.. fifth weekend us friends have arranged for all these elderly ones to a weekend of chilling , fun activities for them ,food n drinks n all.. just doing this so those who havent got anybody can also feel the warmth, kindness people have and so that thye do not feel left out and depressed.. so looking for ward to a busy and happy giving december for my friends and me.. can you think of anything else that can be added to these above mentioned activities?.
Plans for December:
A few friends and I have planned a full month of Kindness , giving and sharing experiences for us to help those who may need it.
The first weekend of dec we are all going to be taking some elderly ones who are on their own, cant get out and about for christmas shopping.They are alone (except friends, no family who cares to be there for them at all) , so we thought we can take them shopping for gifts and stuff, it will help them get out too for a day or two.
Second weekend will be spent with wrapping gifts ,writing cards, letters for these elderly ones and taking them out for an event which they chose to go to.
third weekend we and these elderly ones are all sharing in making different dishes ,soups,muffins, cakes etc and taking them round to the homeless shelters and giving it out to people there (volunteering there afterwards too ,they need all the help they can).
Fourth weekend us friends are going with gifts to three different shelters for the homeless and donating it there plus volunteering in a soup kitchen.
Fifth weekend us friends have arranged for all these elderly ones to a weekend of chilling , fun activities for them ,food n drinks n all.
Just doing this so those who havent got anybody can also feel the warmth, kindness people have and so that thye do not feel left out and depressed.
So looking for ward to a busy and happy giving december for my friends and me.
Can you think of anything else that can be added to these above mentioned activities?
What are your plans ?
Zing
i literally had dozens of suits.
i still have more dress clothes than anyone i know.
i did give some suits and clothing away and to be honest, i still like wearing a nice suit.. brothers and sisters, are all your “ meeting clothes” still in your closet?
I gave mine away to people who were in need of clothes shoes etc, the homeless and any who might benefit from good clothes.
Whenever I walk to anywhere, I am always looking for ways to help (privately,voluntarily) on how to improve/help the area/homeless or just about anybody who I think could do with a helping hand.
Say for eg today I went grocery shopping into a particular shop which had sent me some money off vouchers and it was not huge spending required either (I do not ever fall for that).Just get my normal food and other items and you get money off of the total. So I went and bought what I needed and used the vouchers too.Yet (as I mentioned I wont spend just to get money off of items). So I just went around the shop looking for a disabled person, a pregnat lady or one with a baby, or someone witha disability etc to hand out the voucher to so they get a helping hand . I found an older person with a crutch hobbling so I asked him if his shopping came upto so-and-so,then he may be able to save some money with the vouchers.He was so happy, n grateful for it. (he later when I helped him with his groceries to his car mentioned coz of the voucher he was able to add a couple more needy items into his basket) That was all I needed to hear that the vouchers hepled him really.
So this is why I know where some homeless people are wandering, perhaps live even and just gave my stuff away to them.
One never can tell what os really going on in peoples lives so a kind gesture is Really Being A True Human imho.
Zing
all of the local congregations are going to use hourglass app for publishers to report their time.
i’m not sure if this meets privacy laws in our province.
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Even approved, witnessing is a joke. 8 jws sitting on a park bench.2,4 or more hours a day. And WhammO , 20-30 hours a day,,3-6 days a week, you have 10hours each 8x . You get 80+ hours a week just on a single bench. Hour Glass or not
This is what I call AN HOUR GLASS FIGURE(if you get the pun)
Zing
i was recently informed that the new jw bible was reviewed by some academic type person who rated it as one of the best translations available.. has anyone heard of this person and if so what is his reasoning for giving it such a compliment?.
BeDuhn is a religious studies professor at Northern Arizona University in Flagstaff. In his book he discusses a number of translations, but he seems to spend an exceptional amount of time defending the NWT against its critics.
How much did wbts pay him for his views, I would like to know? They have done this sort of thing to get awards so why not for a good defence for their so called sword!!
Zing
i had it confirmed today that 5 kingdom halls on one site in new addington are for sale.
price being asked £3.5 million.. every witness in london worked on that site.
am in shock.
spoiler alert : old news article(2015) but info i did not have and lots more.
so i am just putting it out here for anyone who may not have this info.
just stumbled onto this site about jdumbs properties when researching something else.
Spoiler Alert : old news article(2015) but info I did not have and lots more. So I am just putting it out here for anyone who may not have this info.
Just stumbled onto this site about jdumbs properties when researching something else. I also browsed more topics at the bottom of the news article and found things I did not know before. If anyone has more info to add to this please do.
https://ny.curbed.com/2015/12/4/9894306/jehovahs-witnesses-list-watchtower-headquarters-in-dumbo
Zing
this has come up recently with two family members who are jws.
if they are talking about this you can bet that others are too.
they seem to be all excited that a lot of attention in the news right now is about climate change, greta, extinction rebellion etc... as you can image they are very smug saying see.
You may have read the recent thread on this Rev 11:18 verse. The verse is only recently being reinterpreted as referring to some type of literal ruining through pollution.
I used to use this on the ministry to highlight the literal pollution and dirt,garbage problems and show them this verse that god will destroy those destroying the world. we need to look after at least where we live/ our surroundings etc.
Guess I was one of the anointed without knowing then!! Guess I was way ahead of the anointed themselves if this is a new reasoning.
Zing