Posts by ZindagiNaMilegiDobaara

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Those who want to believe in god

by JimmyYoung in

i find it funny how many people want to broad cast their religion on fb then whine whine when others critique it.

its like the ny times saying no one has a right to criticize its oped.

don't put it on the world wide web if you don't want others opinion on it.

ZindagiNaMilegiDobaara

I agree with Jimmy Young "Man and Dinosaurs did not exist at the same time by a long shot. The earth is not 6 thousand years old but some 4.5 billion and that is proven by science and radio active decay. Occam's Razor is a good way to look at the bible and religion. Which is more plausible that some goat herders who knew nothing ".

It is only now after waking up have I realized how gullible I was and trusting of the washtowel that everything is so so different than what jdumbs are taught.

Washtower...where love crawls to die.

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Jdumbs Self Preservation tactics

by ZindagiNaMilegiDobaara in

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currently reading "cults,faith-healing and coercion".

very informative info on many cults, sects and behaviors.

reading different books on cults i personally gives me the knowledge to better understand the behavior and thoughts inside ones who are in a cult;which gives me a better handle on how to help wake them up without them going into denial.

ZindagiNaMilegiDobaara

@Spiral It is my pleasure to share things that I enjoy and that help me, help others too.

If you have any recommendations,feel free to share with me.At the moment I am going through a phase of trying to read all the culty books I have on my shelf. But it is a challenge coz I have loads and I keep buying more whenever I see them(always looking for books). I love to read obviously.

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Hey - Cognac here... Dealing with Custody Case

by BriandMandi in

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had to create a new account cause i couldn’t login to my old one.. anyways, my ex- a male jw was trying to go for full physical custody of our kids.

he had his wife call dcf but of course i won.

he had no leg to stand on.. so, we need to go back to court in february.

ZindagiNaMilegiDobaara

Perhaps these books might help

Youth, Brainwashing and the Extremist Cults, Chapter 8 (Enroth, 1977).........................70
"Kids 'n' Cults" (Swope, 1980)..................................................................................71
Influence (Cialdini, 1984) ........................................................................................71
Also

For information on the legal implications of child custody when a cult is involve see Kandell, R. F. (1987/88). Litigating the Cult-Related Child Custody Case. Cultic Studies Journal. 4(2)/5(l),122-131.

Greene, F (1989). Litigating Child Custody with Religious Cults. Cultic Studies Journal. 6(1), 69-75.

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Another Gem Of a Book

by ZindagiNaMilegiDobaara in

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currently reading recovery from abusive groups by wendy ford.

a truly worth reading book.

so many things resonates with jdumbs and what i have heard people go through!

ZindagiNaMilegiDobaara

@ Somebody it is my pleasure.I like to share stuff that I enjoy really.

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Jdumbs Self Preservation tactics

by ZindagiNaMilegiDobaara in

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currently reading "cults,faith-healing and coercion".

very informative info on many cults, sects and behaviors.

reading different books on cults i personally gives me the knowledge to better understand the behavior and thoughts inside ones who are in a cult;which gives me a better handle on how to help wake them up without them going into denial.

ZindagiNaMilegiDobaara

Sorry the post is long

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Jdumbs Self Preservation tactics

by ZindagiNaMilegiDobaara in

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friends

currently reading "cults,faith-healing and coercion".

very informative info on many cults, sects and behaviors.

reading different books on cults i personally gives me the knowledge to better understand the behavior and thoughts inside ones who are in a cult;which gives me a better handle on how to help wake them up without them going into denial.

ZindagiNaMilegiDobaara

Currently reading "Cults,Faith-Healing and coercion". Very informative info on many cults, sects and behaviors. Reading different books on cults I personally gives me the knowledge to better understand the behavior and thoughts inside ones who are in a cult;which gives me a better handle on how to help wake them up without them going into denial. Also I love reading . Just sharing some lines for you to analyse too.

"In some religious cults, as shown in Debbie's experience, converts are introduced to the group's ideology only after they have affiliated. Once they have identified with the group's general orientation, though, they accept the particulars of belief quite readily when these are spelled out (jdumb strategy at work is it not).

Members of these groups tend to be intensely concerned about each other's well-being, and are deeply committed to joint activities. Their social cohesiveness, essential to the group's integrity, is reflected in the close intertwining of the individual's life circumstances with those of all group members. Meetings are frequent; they serve as a focus for group functions and articulate their cohesiveness. Members often express their need to associate regularly with each other by developing joint activities such as minor group tasks and rituals, which in turn justify such meetings."

"A different scientific perspective—a systems approach—can be used to analyze a group's structure and functioning. 1 0 In looking at a system, we do notfirst ask what motivates an individual member to act. Instead we say, "How are the group's needs met by the overall behavior observed in its membership?" From this viewpoint many observations of individual behavior can be synthesized into a model that can help us to better understand motivations. We may consider these individuals' behavior as it is generated by the needs of the social group, even when it seems to run contrary to their interests and personalities. This enables us to see how strongly they can be influenced to conform to the system's need to stabilize and carry out broader objectives.

Many years ago I saw a striking example of how this influence filters the impact of events within one group on another. On a Sunday in November 1978 a banner headline in The New York Times read, "GUYANA TOLL IS RAISED TO AT LEAST 900 BY U. S., WITH 260 CHILDREN AMONG THE VICTIMS AT COLONY." It was rapidly becoming clear that a bizarre and frightening situation of historic proportions had arisen in the past week among the followers of the cult leader Jim Jones. A mass suicide of American citizens had occurred in an isolated South American encampment where members of this group had sequestered themselves. Ironically, Jones was a Protestant minister who had been an esteemed member of the San Francisco Bay Area religious community only months before.

I wondered whether some shock wave might have struck the group by now. I knew the young man at the reception desk, and remarked how unfortunate it was that events in Jonestown might be used against his church. He said, "It's sad it happened to them. But no one would compare us to that terrible group."

The Moonie members, functioning as an integrated social system, had somehow developed a psychologically defensive perspective. Their denial of the implications of the Jonestown affair apparently protected the group from being confronted by the similarities that might be drawn between their own cult-like structure and that of the Peoples Temple. Members of this social system had obviously arrived at a consensus that, above all, assured the system's equilibrium by quashing potentially threatening self-examination."

So many things resonates with cults and the jdumbs; their refusal to believe news about child abuse cases, lawsuits Shunning etc . Anything critical is persecution and lies by the apostate. It is a self-preservation syndrome/tactic.

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Quote Misquote Misleading

by ZindagiNaMilegiDobaara in

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the latest watchtowel (march 2020) study edition has a question from readers ‘what evidence exists outside the bible that the israelites were slaves in egypt?’ from what i read in the bible unearthed there being nothing to base any claims on.

the article gives a quote by ‘dr.

bimson : “the biblical traditions of the bondage in egypt and of the exodus have a firm historical basis.” no links or sources given.

ZindagiNaMilegiDobaara

@Earnest, Thank you for clearing it up. Your extracted lines gave me clarity thanks again.

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Quote Misquote Misleading

by ZindagiNaMilegiDobaara in

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the latest watchtowel (march 2020) study edition has a question from readers ‘what evidence exists outside the bible that the israelites were slaves in egypt?’ from what i read in the bible unearthed there being nothing to base any claims on.

the article gives a quote by ‘dr.

bimson : “the biblical traditions of the bondage in egypt and of the exodus have a firm historical basis.” no links or sources given.

ZindagiNaMilegiDobaara

The latest watchtowel (March 2020) study edition has a question from readers ‘What evidence exists outside the Bible that the Israelites were slaves in Egypt?’ from what I read in The Bible Unearthed there being nothing to base any claims on. The article gives a quote by ‘Dr. Bimson : “The biblical traditions of the bondage in Egypt and of the Exodus have a firm historical basis.” no links or sources given. So I did some research and found a whole pdf from where this was taken from and the quote is no where near what they seem to be wanting the reader to conclude/believe. Personally I do not care any which way it goes.

But washtowel certainly misquotes dr.bimson. Here is a little gist from where it was taken from and decide for yourself.If I am seeing this wrong let me know: " IN the opening pages of Redating the Exodus and Conquest, 1

John J. Bimson identifies two major assumptions of his study.

First, he maintains that "the biblical traditions of the bondage in Egypt and of the Exodus have a firm historical basis."

It is 2MAJOR ASSUMPTIONS but they write it down as if they were facts.

F###### Slave-Holders

Here is the link : https://www.biblicalstudies.org.uk/pdf/gtj/04-2_245.pdf

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