i was doing research on another topic and this question came to mind.
notice how the wts dances around the question below and then my comments about that and whether historically did the wts see isaiah as applying to all jws or only anointed members, spiritual israel (galatians 6:16)?.
are christians to be witnesses of jesus or jehovah?.
I say whats there in a name! (jehovahs witness)
So obviously they cant make their mind up, they dont give two hoots who they are witnesses to...All they want is their "cup is full,their table full of well-oiled dishes" (some verse in psalms says this) and last but not the least top-shelf scotch.
Zing
dont you think that satan was a pomo ?
when you read in the genesis account : "at this the serpent said to the woman: 'you certainly will not die.
5 for god knows that in the very day you eat from it, your eyes will be opened and you will be like god, knowing good and bad.'".
@Brokeback...
I also believe that any interpretation of things basically leans on one's mindset. I say this coz of my own mindset before and after in the organization. The mind is a mindblowing mystery in itself!
Zing
dont you think that satan was a pomo ?
when you read in the genesis account : "at this the serpent said to the woman: 'you certainly will not die.
5 for god knows that in the very day you eat from it, your eyes will be opened and you will be like god, knowing good and bad.'".
@Brokeback ...
My point exactly.That was my response to Stanlive death in this thread .
Just that little instance from the bible shows me so many similarities with god and the GB today, and the way te organisation rules today. Glad I am out ....till the eldubs check on me for a chat.
Zing
dont you think that satan was a pomo ?
when you read in the genesis account : "at this the serpent said to the woman: 'you certainly will not die.
5 for god knows that in the very day you eat from it, your eyes will be opened and you will be like god, knowing good and bad.'".
@ Brokeback..
That is why he is a POMO coz he was a holy angel according to them and now (the then garden of eden time) he had woken up.
Zing
purely from a structural view - favoritism and who has the better position.. when you think about who sinned and their punishment, you start to see a pattern.
this doesn't cover all instances but it is telling.. if you murder, fornicate and disobey but are a king or other notable, you probably get away with your life intact.
in fact, others may suffer for your sinning while you get forgiven.. however, if you impinge on any priestly duties or offices, you are toast.. king david, the one beloved by the wt, is a notable example.
Talk about "An eye for an eye", For god is perfect in his justice ! Really ! Give me a break!
I agree with what you are saying.This god punishes generations after generations for the sin of a father or a mother. Thats fair n just in his book.
This is why we are all paying for it, sin following death coz of adam and eve.
Ofcourse I no longer believe in all this BS anymore but that is beside the point.
Zing
dont you think that satan was a pomo ?
when you read in the genesis account : "at this the serpent said to the woman: 'you certainly will not die.
5 for god knows that in the very day you eat from it, your eyes will be opened and you will be like god, knowing good and bad.'".
Oh boy! I have never done so much studying , researching , reading bible n books on cults n other subjects when I was PIMI!
I want to thank Simon and everyone else here who share and share ; discuss and discuss; all the things that they find out. It has helped so many, to see past the smokescreen and see TTATT.Thank you all.
The only factor that matters to most elders is how far can they pull your string, drag you by the rope tied to your neck, on hot coals !
I have so many non-personal experiences I saw, felt awful for those going through it. Sorry I can go on and on on this topic alone for hours!
Too many lifes wrecked in the name of religion, god ! The god they worship has left the universe long ago!
Zing
dont you think that satan was a pomo ?
when you read in the genesis account : "at this the serpent said to the woman: 'you certainly will not die.
5 for god knows that in the very day you eat from it, your eyes will be opened and you will be like god, knowing good and bad.'".
So many scriptures are talking to me ever so clearer about God now. What was I thinking when I joined the cult ! Of course I did not have the luxury of the internet, a laptop at all, (yeah for some of us these are luxuries to have and to hold); so just could not do any research at all. Had to just stay put.
Now that I have a little freedom and some partial luxuries, I am glad to learn things.
Zing
dont you think that satan was a pomo ?
when you read in the genesis account : "at this the serpent said to the woman: 'you certainly will not die.
5 for god knows that in the very day you eat from it, your eyes will be opened and you will be like god, knowing good and bad.'".
God has shunned Satan perhaps for so going against his wishes, or perhaps just asking reasonable questions! Sounds familiar does it not? So like many of us who start questioning and out you go ! The only answer for challengers - Disfellowshipping !
Wow the mind boggles once you are thinking outside the box !
Zing.
dont you think that satan was a pomo ?
when you read in the genesis account : "at this the serpent said to the woman: 'you certainly will not die.
5 for god knows that in the very day you eat from it, your eyes will be opened and you will be like god, knowing good and bad.'".
@Stanlivedeath
Then god can not have the power to rule you, instruct you and play with you as a puppet jsut like the Gar Bage GB does now. Knowing good and bad is knowledge/education.This is damaging to God as the verse itself says. So the trend follows in the cult from the beginning. No higher education!
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