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Help wanted finding images

by Lee Marsh in

i am working on a project that requires proofs that the wts did say it and jws believe and follow it.. i have found some but google is giving me a hard time with some things.. as i go i will post requests for various images.

they all must have a reference or at least post where i can find the reference and i will add it to the image.. both older and newer beliefs are welcome, especially flip-flops.. if you have something similar to what is already posted then more references the better.

i know there are images of the structure of the wts.

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From the elders book "Shepherd the Flock of God"...

https://files.accessjw.org/s/NSCySFCnaSiE2A5

Since the elders say "elders are appointed by holy spirit" when a publisher reports something bad an elder did, the other elders say "when you talk against one elder, you are talking against the body, and we are in Jesus' hand" and then they label the publisher who told on the elder as "apostate" and "reviling" and "causing divisions" especially if that publisher keeps warning others about the bad elder.

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Help wanted finding images

by Lee Marsh in

i am working on a project that requires proofs that the wts did say it and jws believe and follow it.. i have found some but google is giving me a hard time with some things.. as i go i will post requests for various images.

they all must have a reference or at least post where i can find the reference and i will add it to the image.. both older and newer beliefs are welcome, especially flip-flops.. if you have something similar to what is already posted then more references the better.

i know there are images of the structure of the wts.

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Talk by William Malenfant on Peace by dropping any issues even serious ones, if you are a victim the advice is that it's better to let even serious issues pass than to disturb the peace of the congregation...

https://www.jw.org/en/library/videos/#en/mediaitems/2022Convention/pub-co-r22_141_VIDEO

1985 Watchtower on "apostates cause division"...

https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1985847?q=causing+divisions&p=par

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Help wanted finding images

by Lee Marsh in

i am working on a project that requires proofs that the wts did say it and jws believe and follow it.. i have found some but google is giving me a hard time with some things.. as i go i will post requests for various images.

they all must have a reference or at least post where i can find the reference and i will add it to the image.. both older and newer beliefs are welcome, especially flip-flops.. if you have something similar to what is already posted then more references the better.

i know there are images of the structure of the wts.

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The elders use the false charges of "reviling and causing divisions" to disfellowship victims of abuse. Since the hearings are not public, the rest of the congregation is completely unaware of the truth of the matter. Then the publications tell the congregation not to question the elders' judgment.

https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/2021565

This drama movie misapplied the Bible account of Moses and Korah in order to say that not listening to the WTBTS "elders" is the same as disobeying God and merits destruction...

https://www.jw.org/en/library/videos/#en/mediaitems/VODBibleAccounts/pub-ivru_x_VIDEO

Insight book, "Reviling" section mentions talking against so-called "appointed ones" as a reason for disfellowshipping...

https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1200001746?q=reviling&p=par

Insight book, "Expelling" section mentions "causing divisions" as reason for disfellowshipping...

https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1200001462

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Encouraging scriptures for the day

by Kosonen in

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hello my friends,.

here are some encouraging scriptures for the day:.

revelation 21:2 i also saw the holy city, new jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from god and prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.. hebrews 11:10 for he (abraham) was awaiting the city having real foundations, whose designer and builder is god.. revelation 21:24 and the nations will walk by means of its light, and the kings of the earth will bring their glory into it.. revelation 22:1 and he showed me a river of water of life, clear as crystal, flowing out from the throne of god and of the lamb 2 down the middle of its main street (of the holy city).

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Hi Kosonen😊

Paul said "Jerusalem above is free, and she is our mother." He was talking about the faithful angels as a group in heaven; they are in subjection to God as a faithful wife would be in subjection to her husband.

Mary felt as if a sword had been driven through her when she saw Jesus on the torture stake. In a similar way, when the angelic organization sees the way true Christians are attacked by Satan's institutions during the 3 1/2 year tribulation, "she" will be moved to help us.

The angels had a role in feeding the Israelites the manna all those years in the wilderness on the way to the promised land. Revelation includes chapter 2 and 3 where the message is given "to the angels of the congregations", which makes clear the angels know where all God's children are at any given time and they are with them.

Thus, that the "woman" is in the "wilderness" implies the angels will be with true Christians throughout the 3 1/2 years of the great tribulation.

The prophecies in Daniel and in the gospels show that Jesus will refine the Christian congregation (all those denominations descended from the initial congregation - all who claim to be "Christian") during the time of the 3 1/2 years. At that time, the angels will be sent out to remove those Pharisaical fake shepherds and also to remove false teachings, as is apparent in this illustration:

Matthew 13:41-43

"The Son of man will send his angels, and they will collect out from his Kingdom all things that cause stumbling and people who practice lawlessness, and they will pitch them into the fiery furnace. There is where their weeping and the gnashing of their teeth will be. At that time the righteous ones will shine as brightly as the sun in the Kingdom of their Father. Let the one who has ears listen."

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Encouraging scriptures for the day

by Kosonen in

jw
friends

hello my friends,.

here are some encouraging scriptures for the day:.

revelation 21:2 i also saw the holy city, new jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from god and prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.. hebrews 11:10 for he (abraham) was awaiting the city having real foundations, whose designer and builder is god.. revelation 21:24 and the nations will walk by means of its light, and the kings of the earth will bring their glory into it.. revelation 22:1 and he showed me a river of water of life, clear as crystal, flowing out from the throne of god and of the lamb 2 down the middle of its main street (of the holy city).

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Revelation 12:13 Now when the dragon saw that it had been hurled down to the earth, it persecuted the woman who gave birth to the male child. 14 But the two wings of the great eagle were given to the woman, so that she might fly into the wilderness to her place, where she is to be fed for a time and times and half a time away from the face of the serpent.

Dragon/Serpent = Satan

Woman = heaven

Male child = kingdom

Wilderness = figurative place with no "cities" (no congregations/no denominations/no religious institutions)

Time and times and half a time = 3 1/2 years

When Jesus is enthroned and kicks Satan out of heaven, Satan will persecute the kingdom heirs on earth for 3 1/2 years. The heirs of the kingdom will be okay, just like Jehovah took care of Israelites in the wilderness after they came out of Egypt - the angels will assist true Christians even though all religious institutions will be destroyed (a figurative "wilderness" with no organized religious institutions).

17 So the dragon became enraged at the woman and went off to wage war with the remaining ones of her offspring, who observe the commandments of God and have the work of bearing witness concerning Jesus.

Dragon = Satan

Woman = heaven

Remaining ones of her offspring = kingdom heirs on earth

There will still be a preaching work to do on earth during the 3 1/2 years of the tribulation. True Christians will continue to tell others that the Kingdom is coming and Jesus is King.

Daniel 7:25 He will speak words against the Most High, and he will continually harass the holy ones of the Supreme One. He will intend to change times and law, and they will be given into his hand for a time, times, and half a time. 26 But the Court sat, and they took away his rulership, in order to annihilate him and to destroy him completely. 27 “‘And the kingdom and the rulership and the grandeur of the kingdoms under all the heavens were given to the people who are the holy ones of the Supreme One. Their kingdom is an everlasting kingdom, and all rulerships will serve and obey them.’ 28 “This is the end of the matter. ….

He = The United Nations government

Time times and half a time = 3 1/2 years

Holy ones of the Supreme One = kingdom heirs

the Court = God

The United Nations government will attack all religion including the kingdom heirs for 3 1/2 years, but at the end of that time God will have the Kingdom completely destroy all governments in opposition.

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Jerusalem will be trampled by the nations until the Gentile Times are Fulfilled. — Luke 21:24

by Fisherman in

jerusalem will be trampled by the nations until the gentile times are fulfilled.

— luke 21:24 .

the bible book of luke records jesus prophecy of the last day with his parousia including the verse about the gentile times.

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"hidden messages, cryptic riddles and secret code words"

@peacefulpete, If you can't understand what is very clearly written in God's Word, it's not because of my world view...

Matthew 11:25-27

"At that time Jesus said in response: “I publicly praise you, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because you have hidden these things from the wise and intellectual ones and have revealed them to young children. Yes, O Father, because this is the way you approved. All things have been handed over to me by my Father, and no one fully knows the Son except the Father; neither does anyone fully know the Father except the Son and anyone to whom the Son is willing to reveal him."

Matthew 13:10-13

"So the disciples came and said to him: “Why do you speak to them by the use of illustrations?” In reply he said: “To you it is granted to understand the sacred secrets of the Kingdom of the heavens, but to them it is not granted. For whoever has, more will be given him, and he will be made to abound; but whoever does not have, even what he has will be taken from him. That is why I speak to them by the use of illustrations; for looking, they look in vain, and hearing, they hear in vain, nor do they get the sense of it. And the prophecy of Isaiah is being fulfilled in their case. It says: ‘You will indeed hear but by no means get the sense of it, and you will indeed look but by no means see. For the heart of this people has grown unreceptive, and with their ears they have heard without response, and they have shut their eyes, so that they might never see with their eyes and hear with their ears and get the sense of it with their hearts and turn back and I heal them.'"

"look at the 'big picture' on the box"

It's a matter of the heart, not the eyes.

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TOP STORY: SPECIAL INTERVIEW! Youtube video

by EasyPrompt in

woman associated with ex church leader tells all!!!

watch the scandalous drama unfold here.... .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xyd31w7hwkw.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mK_8gybdF9I

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Greenlees, Chapman and Chitty

by Libby in

so after being rudely awakened by a cat fight outside (it's 3am here in the uk) and then proceeding to go outside to rescue my cats from the neighbourhood tom....... i'm now laying wide awake trying to make sense of jw "truth".

(it's all my mind does these days, the lights gone on and won't turn off).

anyway i found myself reading about the gb and came across these fellows , greenlees, chapman and chitty.

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"Virgins" is figurative. It means they don't figuratively prostitute themselves with governments (breaking God's laws) in order to get a selfish advantage.

(An example would be how the WTBT$ uses their legal department to protect pedophiles. God's law says to protect lowly ones. The WTBT$ leaders want to keep control over the "flock" so they can keep getting donations to feed their lifestyle on the lake, so they misuse the legal system in order to protect abusers and crush victims. When the WTBT$ leaders do such a thing, they are not acting as "virgins" who are "loyal to God and Christ". The WTBT$ are acting like harlots who are sleeping around for selfish gain.)

They're obviously not all "men" because the 144,000 includes women.

In the first century, a lot of the 144,000 were people like Mary and others who had kids.

Revelation is given in signs. The Bible explains what the signs mean. The "virgin" thing isn't literal.

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Jerusalem will be trampled by the nations until the Gentile Times are Fulfilled. — Luke 21:24

by Fisherman in

jerusalem will be trampled by the nations until the gentile times are fulfilled.

— luke 21:24 .

the bible book of luke records jesus prophecy of the last day with his parousia including the verse about the gentile times.

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Jesus said that no man would know when the Kingdom would begin.

Daniel chapter 9 gives an outline of the timing of when the Messiah would show up on the earth and do his ministry and die.

If the Kingdom were to begin at the end of Christ's ministry, then Jesus wouldn't have said that the timing of the Kingdom rule beginning couldn't be calculated.

If Jesus was to receive the Kingdom as soon as he went to heaven, he wouldn't have told the apostles they had to wait, that it didn't belong to them to know.

That there was a second fulfillment of "tribulation" is apparent because Jesus never appeared in the heavens on the clouds and never sent his angels to gather Christians from all over the earth. Those things didn't happen in the first century because Jesus was telling what would happen in our day when he foretold those things.

There is a great tribulation coming on the earth. Christians who are asleep to it will be shocked. The religious institutions are about to be destroyed. Take refuge in God and Christ and endure in the faith and love and undeserved kindness of the Lord. Do not be afraid when the tribulation begins. It is for the appointed times. It has a beginning, and it will have an end. At the end of the 3 1/2 years, the UN and all human governments will be replaced with God's Kingdom. Keep the faith and wait for it with endurance. God has not abandoned us.

When you see the all the nations completely attacking religious institutions, you will know that Jesus took the throne in heaven. That will be the time to tell the world that the Kingdom has begun.

"As you go, preach, saying "Repent! The Kingdom of the heavens has drawn near."

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Jerusalem will be trampled by the nations until the Gentile Times are Fulfilled. — Luke 21:24

by Fisherman in

jerusalem will be trampled by the nations until the gentile times are fulfilled.

— luke 21:24 .

the bible book of luke records jesus prophecy of the last day with his parousia including the verse about the gentile times.

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Revelation says that when Christ takes the throne in heaven, he will cast down the Devil for "a short period of time."

If Christ was enthroned in the first century and if the Devil was cast down in the first century, then that would mean that the "short time" was actually about 2000 years, which would be about one-third of the time humans have been in existence. The math doesn't add up to support Jesus having been enthroned in the first century.

The scriptures show that the "short period of time" the Devil will be cast down is only 3 1/2 years. The great tribulation will be 3 1/2 years. It doesn't begin until after Jesus is enthroned in heaven and casts the Devil down. That hasn't happened yet, but when it does, no one will have to ask "is this the appointed times of the nations?" because it will be really horrible and everyone will know. The religious institutions will be completely devastated by the nations. But it will only be for 3 1/2 years that the UN gets to rule with their iron fist, so take courage. God will feed us in that "wilderness" time even though there will not be any "city-like" religious institutions. God and Christ will be our refuge and source of spiritual "water" and "sustenance" (strength).

"Keep on the watch!"