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Greenlees, Chapman and Chitty

by Libby in

so after being rudely awakened by a cat fight outside (it's 3am here in the uk) and then proceeding to go outside to rescue my cats from the neighbourhood tom....... i'm now laying wide awake trying to make sense of jw "truth".

(it's all my mind does these days, the lights gone on and won't turn off).

anyway i found myself reading about the gb and came across these fellows , greenlees, chapman and chitty.

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No, the "144,000" number is not figurative. The context and the rest of the Bible shows that it is a literal number.

There was a representative sample out of ancient Israel selected to work at the temple in a priestly capacity. They weren't any better than their brothers. (In fact, Levi was one of the sketchiest dudes in Jacob's family.) They numbered the Levites and numbered the guys in Israel and the difference in firstborn represented was made up for by a certain compensation because it had to be exact. It was a measurable number.

In Revelation, after talking about the set number 144,000 of those who serve in that specific assignment as priests in the heavenly kingdom capacity, it contrasts that to the great crowd of people "that no man is able to number".

The comparison between a set number and an amount "no man is able to number" shows the 144,000 is literal.

(Other times in the Bible something similar...Joseph interpreted Pharoah's dreams - the cows and wheat were symbolic but the "seven" was literal years. Also Nebuchadnezzar's dream that Daniel interpreted, the tree was figurative, symbolic of Nebuchadnezzar, but the seven times were seven literal years.)

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Encouraging scriptures for the day

by Kosonen in

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friends

hello my friends,.

here are some encouraging scriptures for the day:.

revelation 21:2 i also saw the holy city, new jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from god and prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.. hebrews 11:10 for he (abraham) was awaiting the city having real foundations, whose designer and builder is god.. revelation 21:24 and the nations will walk by means of its light, and the kings of the earth will bring their glory into it.. revelation 22:1 and he showed me a river of water of life, clear as crystal, flowing out from the throne of god and of the lamb 2 down the middle of its main street (of the holy city).

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(Kosonen, here is a tip regarding any websites and knowing whether they contain "truth"...any so-called "Bible scholars" and their websites that have a "Donations" section are NOT trustworthy. They are compromised, because they have attempted to misuse the teachings of the Christ as a means of monetary gain. They do not have holy spirit backing them and they cannot be trusted as a pure source of truth. Both of those websites you posted are asking for money from people for their "work". They are not God's representatives and they are not asking for money because Christ told them to. They are being naughty and they are not reliable for accurate information on understanding Revelation or the rest of the Bible for that matter.)

Christ said: "You received free, give free" regarding sharing truth with others.

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Encouraging scriptures for the day

by Kosonen in

jw
friends

hello my friends,.

here are some encouraging scriptures for the day:.

revelation 21:2 i also saw the holy city, new jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from god and prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.. hebrews 11:10 for he (abraham) was awaiting the city having real foundations, whose designer and builder is god.. revelation 21:24 and the nations will walk by means of its light, and the kings of the earth will bring their glory into it.. revelation 22:1 and he showed me a river of water of life, clear as crystal, flowing out from the throne of god and of the lamb 2 down the middle of its main street (of the holy city).

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"Babylon the Great" is all the religious institutions. "Institutions" means the "organizations", not the people in the organizations. They (the religious organizations) will be destroyed at the beginning of the 3 1/2 years of the great tribulation.

Many of the individuals who make up the institutions will be okay - it's the institutions themselves that are destroyed.

That is why Jesus said of the religious leaders that they will be gnashing their teeth and weeping when the religious institutions are destroyed, because many of the religious leaders will still be alive as individuals and it will be clear they were frauds.

Revelation says Jesus has eyes like a fiery flame.:"the Son of God...the one who has eyes like a fiery flame." He sees everything hypocritical going on in the congregations/denominations that claim to represent him. The lyrics of this song talk about how "the grand facade soon will burn". It's a good illustration for what will happen to Babylon the Great at the beginning of the 3 1/2 years. Jesus will allow the UN to destroy the religious institutions (not all the people in them, but the organization structures.) Then afterwards, true Christians will follow Christ as head instead of human hypocritical religious frauds. And during that time, some others who were not associating with a religion before will see too that Jesus is the one to follow.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-IhUv4Q6J_o

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Encouraging scriptures for the day

by Kosonen in

jw
friends

hello my friends,.

here are some encouraging scriptures for the day:.

revelation 21:2 i also saw the holy city, new jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from god and prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.. hebrews 11:10 for he (abraham) was awaiting the city having real foundations, whose designer and builder is god.. revelation 21:24 and the nations will walk by means of its light, and the kings of the earth will bring their glory into it.. revelation 22:1 and he showed me a river of water of life, clear as crystal, flowing out from the throne of god and of the lamb 2 down the middle of its main street (of the holy city).

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Could there be a connection between these scriptures?

No, Revelation 12:6 is a different time period than Ezekiel 38.

Revelation 12:6 And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she has a place prepared by God and where they would feed her for 1,260 days.

Exekiel 38:8 “‘“You will be given attention after many days. In the final part of the years you will invade the land whose people have been restored from the ravages of the sword, collected together out of many peoples onto the mountains of Israel, which had long been lying devastated. The inhabitants of this land were restored from the peoples, and all of them dwell in security.

11 (NIV) You will say, “I will invade a land of unwalled villages; I will attack a peaceful and unsuspecting people—all of them living without walls and without gates and bars. 12 I Will plunder and loot and turn my hand against the resettled ruins and the people gathered from the nations, rich in livestock and goods, living at the center of the land” 13 Sheba and Dedan and the merchants of Tarshish and all her villages will say to you, “Have you come to plunder? Have you gathered your hordes to loot, to carry off silver and gold, to take away livestock and goods and to seize much plunder?”’

Here is why we know they are not related...

Revelation 12:6 is talking about how true Christians will be protected and fed by the figurative "woman" during the 1260 days (3 1/2 years) of the great tribulation. The "wilderness" just means the condition of not having religious institutions to take "refuge" in. The remnant of the 144,000 kingdom heirs and those associated with them are not strong, they are weak like a newborn baby compared to what they will be later. They need the protection of the angelic organization in order to survive the onslaught of the "dragon" and his minions during the days ahead.

Ezekiel 38 is talking about "Gog of Magog". Revelation 20:7-10 identifies "Gog of Magog" as those who attack God's people after the 1000 year reign.

Ezekiel 38 has nothing to do with the 3 1/2 years of the great tribulation or the time known as "Armageddon". Ezekiel 38 takes place way way way later.🙂

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Encouraging scriptures for the day

by Kosonen in

jw
friends

hello my friends,.

here are some encouraging scriptures for the day:.

revelation 21:2 i also saw the holy city, new jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from god and prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.. hebrews 11:10 for he (abraham) was awaiting the city having real foundations, whose designer and builder is god.. revelation 21:24 and the nations will walk by means of its light, and the kings of the earth will bring their glory into it.. revelation 22:1 and he showed me a river of water of life, clear as crystal, flowing out from the throne of god and of the lamb 2 down the middle of its main street (of the holy city).

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That first website is incorrect because it claims the woman is ancient Israel. Ancient Israel has never been in heaven. Ancient Israel was an unfaithful harlot who schemed to kill God's Son.

The second website is incorrect because they claim the woman is the church. The church hasn't given birth to the Christ. He came first, and then the congregation came after.

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Help wanted finding images

by Lee Marsh in

i am working on a project that requires proofs that the wts did say it and jws believe and follow it.. i have found some but google is giving me a hard time with some things.. as i go i will post requests for various images.

they all must have a reference or at least post where i can find the reference and i will add it to the image.. both older and newer beliefs are welcome, especially flip-flops.. if you have something similar to what is already posted then more references the better.

i know there are images of the structure of the wts.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yM3gbGKiFX4

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Help wanted finding images

by Lee Marsh in

i am working on a project that requires proofs that the wts did say it and jws believe and follow it.. i have found some but google is giving me a hard time with some things.. as i go i will post requests for various images.

they all must have a reference or at least post where i can find the reference and i will add it to the image.. both older and newer beliefs are welcome, especially flip-flops.. if you have something similar to what is already posted then more references the better.

i know there are images of the structure of the wts.

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Shawn Barrett JW Training Video on destroying documents...

2020 Email from the Legal Department expressing regret over exposure regarding destroying child sex abuse documentation in the congregations...

https://files.accessjw.org/s/yym8aNJzAqr9jEc

2012 Letter to elders telling them not to cooperate with police or secular investigators unless instructed to by the branch after calling the Bethel Legal Department...

https://files.accessjw.org/s/X2mJqM6M2ySTsxF

2012 Letter to elders telling them not to warn the congregation about sexual predators unless they get permission from the Service Department...

https://files.accessjw.org/s/DC9wK9kZ7DSNJNQ

1980 Letter to circuit overseers about apostates...

https://files.accessjw.org/s/QkEpDaBMN6EdkZJ

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Help wanted finding images

by Lee Marsh in

i am working on a project that requires proofs that the wts did say it and jws believe and follow it.. i have found some but google is giving me a hard time with some things.. as i go i will post requests for various images.

they all must have a reference or at least post where i can find the reference and i will add it to the image.. both older and newer beliefs are welcome, especially flip-flops.. if you have something similar to what is already posted then more references the better.

i know there are images of the structure of the wts.

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1997 Watchtower, don't complain to someone outside the congregation about stuff that happens in the congregation

https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1997886?q=complain+abuse&p=par

1969 Watchtower, if someone does something evil that you can't forgive, go talk to them (instead of protecting yourself or warning congregation) to protect the joy of the congregation

https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1969683

1967 Watchtower, don't tell others in congregation about wrongdoing

https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1967562

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Help wanted finding images

by Lee Marsh in

i am working on a project that requires proofs that the wts did say it and jws believe and follow it.. i have found some but google is giving me a hard time with some things.. as i go i will post requests for various images.

they all must have a reference or at least post where i can find the reference and i will add it to the image.. both older and newer beliefs are welcome, especially flip-flops.. if you have something similar to what is already posted then more references the better.

i know there are images of the structure of the wts.

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From the elders book "Shepherd the Flock of God"...

https://files.accessjw.org/s/NSCySFCnaSiE2A5

Since the elders say "elders are appointed by holy spirit" when a publisher reports something bad an elder did, the other elders say "when you talk against one elder, you are talking against the body, and we are in Jesus' hand" and then they label the publisher who told on the elder as "apostate" and "reviling" and "causing divisions" especially if that publisher keeps warning others about the bad elder.

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Help wanted finding images

by Lee Marsh in

i am working on a project that requires proofs that the wts did say it and jws believe and follow it.. i have found some but google is giving me a hard time with some things.. as i go i will post requests for various images.

they all must have a reference or at least post where i can find the reference and i will add it to the image.. both older and newer beliefs are welcome, especially flip-flops.. if you have something similar to what is already posted then more references the better.

i know there are images of the structure of the wts.

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Talk by William Malenfant on Peace by dropping any issues even serious ones, if you are a victim the advice is that it's better to let even serious issues pass than to disturb the peace of the congregation...

https://www.jw.org/en/library/videos/#en/mediaitems/2022Convention/pub-co-r22_141_VIDEO

1985 Watchtower on "apostates cause division"...

https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1985847?q=causing+divisions&p=par