"EP - You might want to try decaff."
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"molecules don't care about life.
" first part deals with abiogenesis and the state of current research.
second part stephen meyer proposes intelligent design as an explanation of some of the problems.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bss0rxpsbuq.
"EP - You might want to try decaff."
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while most talk about the end of reporting for publishers, i think the doctrinal change is even bigger.. repentance after start of gt still possible?
what does that mean for the judgement message, they pushed a bit lately?.
will that be really just before armageddon?
"Maybe the WT leadership is worried..."
WT leadership is worried about losing $$$$$🤑🤑🤑. They don't care about the people - it's their wallets they care about, just like Judas. "This could have been sold and given to the poor..." yeah, right, Judas/FD$. The WT leadership just wants it ($$$) in their pockets.
"During the centuries that followed from the first century different churches appeared and more and more have appeared. And they exist today. Are their members either "weeds" or "wheat" from Jesus' illustration?
Then there are Muslims, Hindus, Buddists, were do they fit in?
And the fact is that they even in a far lesser dergee are interested in the good news about Jesus."
God is patient. He is holding the door open to everyone. He knows there are people who haven't had a chance to learn about Jesus. There is a reason the 1000 year reign is a thousand years. It's going to take time. He's not going to kill people just because they were born in a different nation or at a different time. He is reasonable.
The wheat and the weeds illustration was an illustration for Christians about the hypocrisy and apostasy that would happen within the Christian congregation. That God is patient and loves people from all different backgrounds and religions is apparent from the fact that He provides sun and rain for everyone every single day.
Eventually everyone will know that He is Jehovah, but in the meantime He's not going to slaughter people just because some dumb guys who claim to represent him (any of the clergy of Christendom) tell lies about Him.
God is Love. He is forgiving and kind. He is patient, and he is holding the door open for everyone to have a chance, even after Armageddon.
The great tribulation is to remove the religious institutions and the governments. It is the time to tear down. The thousand year reign is to teach the people about Jehovah. It is the time to build up.
The ransom blood of the Christ is enough to cover the people for the sins they committed in their ignorance.
John 10:10
"The thief does not come unless it is to steal and slay and destroy. I have come that they may have life and have it in abundance."
The WTBT$ are like thieves. They teach what they know. They teach destruction, because they know destruction. The disfellowshipping doctrine is evidence of that. The CSA issues are evidence of that. Their false teachings that reproach Jehovah are evidence of that.
Jesus taught the truth about God. He came to save what was lost. The door is open.
"All things are possible with God."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxZijAchuks
Jehovah was best friends with Abraham way before the Christ came. Jehovah is best friends with a lot of people who don't even know His name yet, but they know some things about Him. Muslims, believers in the Hindu religion, Buddhists, atheists, whatever...He can overlook their sins because of the ransom, with the knowledge that they will repent later. Jehovah's love will win over the hearts of many of them in time, because it is higher than we can imagine.
while most talk about the end of reporting for publishers, i think the doctrinal change is even bigger.. repentance after start of gt still possible?
what does that mean for the judgement message, they pushed a bit lately?.
will that be really just before armageddon?
The "weeds and wheat" illustration is specific to the Christian congregation. Jesus gave it as an illustration of how false teachings spread in the congregation. It is not an illustration about the entire population of the world.
Jesus forgave the criminal next to him on the other torture stake at the last minute.
John 14:6-10
"Jesus said to him: “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. If you men had known me, you would have known my Father also; from this moment on you know him and have seen him.”
Philip said to him: “Lord, show us the Father, and it is enough for us.”
Jesus said to him: “Even after I have been with you men for such a long time, Philip, have you not come to know me? Whoever has seen me has seen the Father also. How is it you say, ‘Show us the Father’? Do you not believe that I am in union with the Father and the Father is in union with me? The things I say to you I do not speak of my own originality, but the Father who remains in union with me is doing his works."
Jesus showed us the way. He showed us the Father. Jehovah will forgive people last minute who are repentant. He doesn't want to lose anyone. He is a Father, not a murderer. "God is Love."
"molecules don't care about life.
" first part deals with abiogenesis and the state of current research.
second part stephen meyer proposes intelligent design as an explanation of some of the problems.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bss0rxpsbuq.
Did you know that you can become an expert in Klingon?
Yup.
Somebody invented a language for an imaginary race. You can become a member of the Klingon Language Institute. Membership only costs $10 a year!
If you want to become an expert in evolutionary theory and get some special letters after your name, it costs more. But you learn the vocabulary and you can speak with other "experts" in that language. When people hear you talking, they recognize the language. They can quote it and share it with others too.
You can research Klingon for years if you want to. Klingons first appeared on Star Trek in 1967. People have talked about them for decades. At the end of the day, it doesn't change the fact that there isn't a Klingon race.
It's the same with evolutionary theory. You can make up different names for some bones that you find tiny pieces of. You can name them after yourself or the place you dug them up or some Latin word. You can write books weaving together fiction and fact and fancy words. But it doesn't change the fact that evolution never happened. It's make believe.
they believe the nation of israel is still gods chosen people.
what if they were the ones who were right all this time?.
James 1:1, 2:1
"James, a slave of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ, to the 12 tribes that are scattered about: Greetings!...My brothers, you are not holding to the faith of our glorious Lord Jesus Christ while showing favoritism, are you?"
The "12 tribes" James was talking to were not the literal nation of Israel. The context makes clear he meant the figurative Israelites.
Jesus was Jewish. His "bride" is called by his name, which means since Jesus was an Israelite, his congregation becomes Israelites, because they are "one flesh" and he is the head.
Those who have Jesus as their "eternal father" (Isaiah 9:6) also are Israelites by inheritance. As his children, they inherit the name of Israel from their father.
When Revelation is talking about Israel, it is talking about Christians.
In context in Revelation 3:7-10 when it says "those who say they are Jews but are not" Jesus is talking about those who claim to be Christian but are not really following Christ. The message was to the Christian congregations.
The WTBT$ wrongly said that the war in 1914 was a sign that fulfilled their prophecy about the end times, but they (the WTBT$) were only fulfilling this prophecy:
2 Thessalonians 2:9-12
"But the lawless one’s presence is by the operation of Satan with every powerful work and lying signs and wonders and every unrighteous deception for those who are perishing, as a retribution because they did not accept the love of the truth in order that they might be saved. That is why God lets a deceptive influence mislead them so that they may come to believe the lie, in order that they all may be judged because they did not believe the truth but took pleasure in unrighteousness."
The Devil perpetuates war. It's no big deal for him to start wars. He is also behind religious liars and their false prophecies.
2 Corinthians 11:13-15
"For such men are false apostles, deceitful workers, disguising themselves as apostles of Christ. And no wonder, for Satan himself keeps disguising himself as an angel of light. It is therefore nothing extraordinary if his ministers also keep disguising themselves as ministers of righteousness. But their end will be according to their works."
Jesus said about the literal nation of Israel "your house is abandoned to you." When religious teachers contradict Jesus, they are not promoting truth. They are promoting a narrative that plays into the Devil's hand.
Romans 2:29
"But he is a Jew who is one on the inside, and his circumcision is that of the heart by spirit and not by a written code. That person’s praise comes from God, not from people."
Romans 10:16-21
"Nevertheless, they did not all obey the good news. For Isaiah says: “Jehovah, who has put faith in the thing heard from us?” So faith follows the thing heard. In turn, what is heard is through the word about Christ. But I ask, They did not fail to hear, did they? Why, in fact, “into all the earth their sound went out, and to the ends of the inhabited earth their message.” But I ask, Israel did not fail to know, did they? First Moses says: “I will incite you to jealousy through that which is not a nation; I will incite you to violent anger through a foolish nation.” But Isaiah becomes very bold and says: “I was found by those who were not seeking me; I became known to those who were not asking for me.” But he says regarding Israel: “All day long I have spread out my hands toward a disobedient and obstinate people.”"
What is happening in Israel/Palestine is horrible. But it is not fulfilling the Bible prophecies about the attack to come on spiritual Israel, on Christians. That attack will be by the UN.
while most talk about the end of reporting for publishers, i think the doctrinal change is even bigger.. repentance after start of gt still possible?
what does that mean for the judgement message, they pushed a bit lately?.
will that be really just before armageddon?
Revelation is presented in signs/visions. Some things are figurative and some are literal. When people take Revelation out of context with the rest of the Bible, they get the wrong understanding.
Look at Jesus.
His example proves that he does accept "last minute repentance". Some people will choose not to repent. But others will. Jehovah is merciful. He is not a tyrant.
"molecules don't care about life.
" first part deals with abiogenesis and the state of current research.
second part stephen meyer proposes intelligent design as an explanation of some of the problems.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bss0rxpsbuq.
@Cofty, I wasn't a JW until later in life. I was an evolution praising atheist before I started college. The things I learned while studying evolution for my degree in anthropolgy/archaeology is what shot holes in that belief. The evolution theory is so full of holes, no two theorists agree on it. Their "evidence" is presented in the same way Splane presents his overlapping generations.
You parrot ideas you've heard others parrot and you believe in it because it's the way the wind is blowing right now, but Jehovah will clear the air in time, and you'll see all that evolution garbage is a bunch of chaff.
People who believe evolution are suckers. They are duped, just like the JWs who believe the 1914 teaching or the FD$ teaching. I am telling you the truth.
"molecules don't care about life.
" first part deals with abiogenesis and the state of current research.
second part stephen meyer proposes intelligent design as an explanation of some of the problems.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bss0rxpsbuq.
This thread is called: "Critique of Chemical Evolution".
Chemical evolution is make believe. The guys that write the books on it are just like the guys who make up the stuff for WTBT$. They take some truths and mix them with falsehoods.
Proverbs 3:11-19
"My son, do not reject the discipline of Jehovah,
And do not loathe his reproof,
For those whom Jehovah loves he reproves,
Just as a father does a son in whom he delights.
Happy is the man who finds wisdom
And the man who acquires discernment;
To gain it is better than gaining silver,
And having it as profit is better than having gold.
It is more precious than corals;
Nothing you desire can compare to it.
...Jehovah founded the earth in wisdom."
"molecules don't care about life.
" first part deals with abiogenesis and the state of current research.
second part stephen meyer proposes intelligent design as an explanation of some of the problems.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bss0rxpsbuq.
Hey, @MeanMrMustard, nice to hear that you're a believer in the Lord, lol...
"Pfft. Lol. And I'll believe when God creates a married bachelor."
I'm a married bachelor.
Haha!😆
(A lot of my coursework included studying evolutionary theory.)
"molecules don't care about life.
" first part deals with abiogenesis and the state of current research.
second part stephen meyer proposes intelligent design as an explanation of some of the problems.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bss0rxpsbuq.
😆 Yeah, I'm so devastating. Such a horrid troll...😁😘🥰