for a christian, only the moral commandments of the old testament are binding (as they cannot change), but the various liturgical, social, and other so-called casuistic laws no longer apply to them.
this includes dietary habits, such as the prohibition of pork or fat, as well as the prohibition of blood.. take a look at the following verses: mt 15:11, mk 7:15-19, acts 11:7-9, 1 tim 4:3-5.. the jehovah's witnesses say that, yes, but in the acts of the apostles (15) the consumption of blood, idol meat, and strangled animals is also prohibited, meaning the new testament still forbids it.
for catholics, the council of florence settled this issue, stating that this apostolic regulation was only a temporary measure to facilitate agreement between jews and gentiles in the early church.
"If you can bridge the gap between the eating of blood and the transfusion of blood without committing the fallacy of equivocation, or making reference to Bram Stoker or posting silly pictures, I'd like to hear it."
"Keep abstaining from blood."
Faithful Israelites in ancient times didn't transfuse blood or use medical blood products.
"Keep abstaining from blood."
for a christian, only the moral commandments of the old testament are binding (as they cannot change), but the various liturgical, social, and other so-called casuistic laws no longer apply to them.
this includes dietary habits, such as the prohibition of pork or fat, as well as the prohibition of blood.. take a look at the following verses: mt 15:11, mk 7:15-19, acts 11:7-9, 1 tim 4:3-5.. the jehovah's witnesses say that, yes, but in the acts of the apostles (15) the consumption of blood, idol meat, and strangled animals is also prohibited, meaning the new testament still forbids it.
for catholics, the council of florence settled this issue, stating that this apostolic regulation was only a temporary measure to facilitate agreement between jews and gentiles in the early church.
"Abstain from blood."
It's not complicated.
TD said: "EasyPrompt appears to be confused about every material detail here."
aqwsed12345 said: "God's prohibition on blood emphasized the sanctity of life. Consuming animal blood, therefore, signifies the belittling of the sanctity of life. In contrast, blood donation and transfusion testify that we can appreciate and distinguish the sanctity of life. Equating these two fundamentally different things is akin to contempt and wickedness."
I'm not the one who is confused or encouraging wickedness.
@TD, @aqwsed12345, You guys are the lovers of blood sucking vampires, not me.
Matthew 10:32, 33
"Everyone, then, who acknowledges me before men, I will also acknowledge him before my Father who is in the heavens. But whoever disowns me before men, I will also disown him before my Father who is in the heavens."
Either you accept Jesus blood 100%, or you don't. There is no "fraction" of accepting salvation from men. Accepting blood fractions from imperfect men is an abomination and encouraging such procedures is demonic.
It's Jesus' blood that saves. That's the only authorized use for blood.
"Abstain from blood."
for a christian, only the moral commandments of the old testament are binding (as they cannot change), but the various liturgical, social, and other so-called casuistic laws no longer apply to them.
this includes dietary habits, such as the prohibition of pork or fat, as well as the prohibition of blood.. take a look at the following verses: mt 15:11, mk 7:15-19, acts 11:7-9, 1 tim 4:3-5.. the jehovah's witnesses say that, yes, but in the acts of the apostles (15) the consumption of blood, idol meat, and strangled animals is also prohibited, meaning the new testament still forbids it.
for catholics, the council of florence settled this issue, stating that this apostolic regulation was only a temporary measure to facilitate agreement between jews and gentiles in the early church.
Not all "vampires" wear a cape. Some wear a suit and tie.
"Abstain from blood."
for a christian, only the moral commandments of the old testament are binding (as they cannot change), but the various liturgical, social, and other so-called casuistic laws no longer apply to them.
this includes dietary habits, such as the prohibition of pork or fat, as well as the prohibition of blood.. take a look at the following verses: mt 15:11, mk 7:15-19, acts 11:7-9, 1 tim 4:3-5.. the jehovah's witnesses say that, yes, but in the acts of the apostles (15) the consumption of blood, idol meat, and strangled animals is also prohibited, meaning the new testament still forbids it.
for catholics, the council of florence settled this issue, stating that this apostolic regulation was only a temporary measure to facilitate agreement between jews and gentiles in the early church.
@SydBarrett, Yup.
Luke 22:46
"He said to them: “Why are you sleeping? Get up and keep praying, so that you do not enter into temptation.”"
the belief in the messiah, which has lived in the collective consciousness of humanity since ancient times, became completely obscured among the gentiles, and only remained with the jewish people, who were later chosen by god, as the prophecies of the prophets kept it alive.
there was only one great promise in the old testament from god, which awaited fulfillment!
only one great desire was there in the old testament on the part of man, longing for satisfaction.
Smiddy3 said: "GOD ,He /,she ,has had ample opportunity to speak to mankind over many serious events that have taken place in history, both ancient and modern ,and we have heard nothing .......,zilch, from any GOD ever."
Smiddy3, you're hilarious.😆
You wouldn't believe even if an angel came from heaven and told you, lol.
God did send angels from heaven, many times. And he sent his Son. And he had many witnesses that he spoke from heaven. And there is plenty of evidence. The Bible is included in that evidence.
If you want to deny the obvious, I think that's pretty foolish, but you have free will. You can't say God didn't warn you.
A lot of people who consider themselves really "educated" and "scientific" are out there looking for space aliens or a message from some higher force in space somewhere, but they overlook the message that was already sent. They want to believe in "beam me up, Scotty" kind of things but then they deny that God could "beam someone down" here to visit. You don't think God could figure out how to send a message through a book?
What if all those people looking for "aliens" found out that the higher life forms they're looking for are actually moral, upright individuals who generally choose to hide themselves from unrighteous people but reveal who they are to upright individuals? Ha!
(Earth to Smiddy3...Earth to Smiddy3 - The "higher life forms" you're looking for have been found...they've actually communicated with us centuries ago - it's all recorded in the Bible, they're called "angels" and "God" and "Jesus" and they're coming again soon...stop rejecting their message and maybe you'll get to hang out with them, lol...)
Revelation 1:8
"I am the Alʹpha and the O·meʹga,” says Jehovah God, “the One who is and who was and who is coming, the Almighty.”
Revelation 1:4-7
"May you have undeserved kindness and peace from “the One who is and who was and who is coming,” and from the seven spirits that are before his throne, and from Jesus Christ, “the Faithful Witness,” “the firstborn from the dead,” and “the Ruler of the kings of the earth.” To him who loves us and who set us free from our sins by means of his own blood— and he made us to be a kingdom, priests to his God and Father—yes, to him be the glory and the might forever. Amen.Look! He is coming with the clouds, and every eye will see him, and those who pierced him; and all the tribes of the earth will beat themselves in grief because of him. Yes, Amen."
for a christian, only the moral commandments of the old testament are binding (as they cannot change), but the various liturgical, social, and other so-called casuistic laws no longer apply to them.
this includes dietary habits, such as the prohibition of pork or fat, as well as the prohibition of blood.. take a look at the following verses: mt 15:11, mk 7:15-19, acts 11:7-9, 1 tim 4:3-5.. the jehovah's witnesses say that, yes, but in the acts of the apostles (15) the consumption of blood, idol meat, and strangled animals is also prohibited, meaning the new testament still forbids it.
for catholics, the council of florence settled this issue, stating that this apostolic regulation was only a temporary measure to facilitate agreement between jews and gentiles in the early church.
Hi, menrov🙂
I know you are not a "believer". I was being sarcastic. (I had read some of your older posts😉.)
"All Scripture is inspired of God..." (2 Timothy 3:16)
To truly understand the Bible, a person must read it along with holy spirit.
"...the fruitage of the spirit is...faith..." (Galatians 5:22)
Since you do not have faith that the Bible is true, you will not be able to comprehend accurately what it says. It doesn't matter how many times you read it, the meaning will be hidden from you until you ask God to help you understand.
"Keep on asking, and it will be given you..." (Matthew 7:7)
Jesus said such things are hidden from "wise and intellectual ones and revealed to children". That's what he was talking about. That's why all these fancy scholars here who know all these languages and flowery ways of speaking still completely miss that boat. It's not that they aren't intelligent, it's that they trust in their own intelligence more than God's.
"Abstain from blood."☺️🫶🌷(It's not complicated!)
for a christian, only the moral commandments of the old testament are binding (as they cannot change), but the various liturgical, social, and other so-called casuistic laws no longer apply to them.
this includes dietary habits, such as the prohibition of pork or fat, as well as the prohibition of blood.. take a look at the following verses: mt 15:11, mk 7:15-19, acts 11:7-9, 1 tim 4:3-5.. the jehovah's witnesses say that, yes, but in the acts of the apostles (15) the consumption of blood, idol meat, and strangled animals is also prohibited, meaning the new testament still forbids it.
for catholics, the council of florence settled this issue, stating that this apostolic regulation was only a temporary measure to facilitate agreement between jews and gentiles in the early church.
preservation of life
John 17:3
"This means everlasting life, their coming to know you, the only true God, and the one whom you sent, Jesus Christ."
Everlasting life is preserved by means of obeying the Christ, not by means of disregarding the Christ through taking in "medical" blood products.
Romans 6:23
"For the wages sin pays is death, but the gift God gives is everlasting life by Christ Jesus our Lord."
Everlasting life is preserved through the gift of the Christ, not through blood "donated" or sold to pharmaceutical companies and marked up for profits in the medical industry.
John 14:6
"Jesus said to him: “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.""
Jesus' blood is the only blood that can bring us to the Father and preserve our life forever.
ignorance
Ephesians 4:17-21
"So this is what I say and bear witness to in the Lord, that you should no longer go on walking just as the nations also walk, in the futility of their minds. They are in darkness mentally and alienated from the life that belongs to God, because of the ignorance that is in them, because of the insensitivity of their hearts. Having gone past all moral sense, they gave themselves over to brazen conduct to practice every sort of uncleanness with greediness. But you did not learn the Christ to be like this, if, indeed, you heard him and were taught by means of him, just as truth is in Jesus."
Taking in someone else's blood is greedy and unclean. The blood belongs to God, and He said to pour it out, back to the ground, dispose of it, once it comes out, not to sell it or stick it in someone else. It's gross. Jesus isn't gross. He's clean.
for a christian, only the moral commandments of the old testament are binding (as they cannot change), but the various liturgical, social, and other so-called casuistic laws no longer apply to them.
this includes dietary habits, such as the prohibition of pork or fat, as well as the prohibition of blood.. take a look at the following verses: mt 15:11, mk 7:15-19, acts 11:7-9, 1 tim 4:3-5.. the jehovah's witnesses say that, yes, but in the acts of the apostles (15) the consumption of blood, idol meat, and strangled animals is also prohibited, meaning the new testament still forbids it.
for catholics, the council of florence settled this issue, stating that this apostolic regulation was only a temporary measure to facilitate agreement between jews and gentiles in the early church.
Should Christians have asked conscience questions at a feast hosted by a pagan who was known to enjoy things strangled?
Why are they at a pagan feast? Seems kinda strange to me.
Do you mean "pagans" that converted to Christianity?
Paul's counsel shows: yes, ask if the meat is bled properly; no, don't worry if it's bought from a meat market.
Do you agree that it was alright for early Christians to eat meat even if it had previously been sacrificed to idols?
You know I agree with what the Bible teaches.🙂
If Acts 15:29 was a command, was that command rescinded...or was that simply wise instruction given to facilitate fellowship between Jew and Gentile believers, i.e., not stumbling a Jewish brother.
Yes, it was a command; no, that command was not rescinded; no, it had nothing to do with facilitating fellowship. The blood of the Christ made the way to knock down the wall between Jew and Gentile. Peter and other Jews were eating/fellowshipping with Gentiles before the clarification on circumcision came. Paul corrected Peter when for a little while he and Barnabas were withdrawing from eating with Gentiles. There was no need for a letter from Jerusalem to mandate fellowship.
Do you agree that Jews could eat unbled meat if they found one of their flock or herd had died in their field?
Just because they "could" do something doesn't mean they "should" do something.
Exodus 22:31
"You should prove yourselves holy people to me, and you must not eat the flesh of anything in the field that has been torn by a wild animal. You should throw it to the dogs."
Cleanness is important to Jehovah.
Leviticus 7:22-27
"Jehovah continued to speak to Moses, saying: “Tell the Israelites, ‘You must not eat any fat of a bull or a young ram or a goat. The fat of an animal found dead and the fat of an animal killed by another animal may be used for any other purpose, but you must never eat it. For whoever eats fat from an animal that he presents as an offering made by fire to Jehovah must be cut off from his people. “‘You must not eat any blood in any of your dwelling places, whether that of birds or that of animals. Anyone who eats any blood must be cut off from his people.’”
Jehovah said not to eat the blood, because that would be unclean.
Leviticus 17:10-16
"‘If any man of the house of Israel or any foreigner who is residing in your midst eats any sort of blood, I will certainly set my face against the one who is eating the blood, and I will cut him off from among his people. For the life of the flesh is in the blood, and I myself have given it on the altar for you to make atonement for yourselves, because it is the blood that makes atonement by means of the life in it. That is why I have said to the Israelites: “None of you should eat blood, and no foreigner who is residing in your midst should eat blood.” “‘If one of the Israelites or some foreigner who is residing in your midst is hunting and catches a wild animal or a bird that may be eaten, he must pour its blood out and cover it with dust. For the life of every sort of flesh is its blood, because the life is in it. Consequently, I said to the Israelites: “You must not eat the blood of any sort of flesh because the life of every sort of flesh is its blood. Anyone eating it will be cut off.” If anyone, whether a native or a foreigner, eats an animal found dead or one torn by a wild animal, he must then wash his garments and bathe in water and be unclean until the evening; then he will be clean. But if he does not wash them and does not bathe himself, he will answer for his error.’”
But Jehovah is merciful, and He knows people are sometimes stupid and stubborn, so He made provision - if they were careless and foolish and ate the blood, they could turn around and "answer for their error" by washing and bathing and recognizing their "unclean" state, and Jehovah would forgive them so they wouldn't have to be cut off. It was a way they could say "sorry" and have actions to match their words.
But they had to repent in order to receive that forgiveness. If they kept on eating blood with no regard for Jehovah's command, then they would be cut off.
It's the same today. Jehovah is patient, but He is also clear. "Abstain from blood." Some have not abstained from blood, but God is forgiving. When we make mistakes, we show our repentance by turning around, "washing" in the blood of the Lamb, and begging Jehovah's forgiveness in Jesus' name.
for a christian, only the moral commandments of the old testament are binding (as they cannot change), but the various liturgical, social, and other so-called casuistic laws no longer apply to them.
this includes dietary habits, such as the prohibition of pork or fat, as well as the prohibition of blood.. take a look at the following verses: mt 15:11, mk 7:15-19, acts 11:7-9, 1 tim 4:3-5.. the jehovah's witnesses say that, yes, but in the acts of the apostles (15) the consumption of blood, idol meat, and strangled animals is also prohibited, meaning the new testament still forbids it.
for catholics, the council of florence settled this issue, stating that this apostolic regulation was only a temporary measure to facilitate agreement between jews and gentiles in the early church.
TD said: "To that, I would point out that Rabbinical interpretation existed for the purpose of resolving conflicts."
Hmm..."Rabbis" resolving conflict? History shows otherwise...
Mark 3:6
"At that the Pharisees went out and immediately began holding council with the party followers of Herod against him, in order to kill him."
Mark 8:11
"Here the Pharisees came and started disputing with him, demanding from him a sign from heaven, to put him to the test."
Luke 6:7
"The scribes and the Pharisees were now watching Jesus closely to see whether he would cure on the Sabbath, in order to find some way to accuse him."
Luke 16:14-17
"Now the Pharisees, who were money lovers, were listening to all these things, and they began to sneer at him. So he said to them: “You are those who declare yourselves righteous before men, but God knows your hearts. For what is considered exalted by men is a disgusting thing in God’s sight. “The Law and the Prophets were until John. From then on, the Kingdom of God is being declared as good news, and every sort of person is pressing forward toward it. Indeed, it is easier for heaven and earth to pass away than for one stroke of a letter of the Law to go unfulfilled."
Besides causing conflict, the Jewish "teachers" disregarded God's Law by killing the one foretold by Moses and the rest of the prophets. Listening to Jesus is in fulfillment of the true "mitzvah". And as regards the "Kashrut", the holiest of dietary commands for a spiritual Jew is to figuratively partake of Christ's sacrificial blood.
Willfully and knowingly disregarding the sanctity of Jesus' sacrificial blood is the highest form of disrespect toward God.
Hebrews 10:26-31
"For if we practice sin willfully after having received the accurate knowledge of the truth, there is no longer any sacrifice for sins left, but there is a certain fearful expectation of judgment and a burning indignation that is going to consume those in opposition. Anyone who has disregarded the Law of Moses dies without compassion on the testimony of two or three. How much greater punishment do you think a person will deserve who has trampled on the Son of God and who has regarded as of ordinary value the blood of the covenant by which he was sanctified, and who has outraged the spirit of undeserved kindness with contempt? For we know the One who said: “Vengeance is mine; I will repay.” And again: “Jehovah will judge his people.” It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God."
for a christian, only the moral commandments of the old testament are binding (as they cannot change), but the various liturgical, social, and other so-called casuistic laws no longer apply to them.
this includes dietary habits, such as the prohibition of pork or fat, as well as the prohibition of blood.. take a look at the following verses: mt 15:11, mk 7:15-19, acts 11:7-9, 1 tim 4:3-5.. the jehovah's witnesses say that, yes, but in the acts of the apostles (15) the consumption of blood, idol meat, and strangled animals is also prohibited, meaning the new testament still forbids it.
for catholics, the council of florence settled this issue, stating that this apostolic regulation was only a temporary measure to facilitate agreement between jews and gentiles in the early church.
Hi Vander🙂
The ancient Greek ceremony involving sacrifice to idols required bleeding the animal. The whole point of the sacrifice ceremony was to slaughter the animal and use the blood in the sacrifice. That's why Paul said it was okay to eat the meat offered to idols - because bleeding the meat was part of the offering ceremony.
https://www.learnreligions.com/method-of-sacrifice-in-ancient-greece-4079925
