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Were the life spans of the patriarchs just an allegory of astronomical cycles?

by was a new boy in

lengths of life of the patriarchs.

genesis.

length of life.

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@KalebOutWest...

If you can't figure out that Jesus was the Messiah from the scriptures, then no wonder you can't figure out that the patriarchs actually did live as long as the Bible says they did.

You don't have faith in God's Word, that's why you don't understand it.

If God can make a tree live a thousand years, then He can make a man live a thousand years.

God doesn't lie. Faithful Jews are aware of that, that's why faithful Jews recognize Jesus as the Messiah instead of following the God-dishonoring traditions of men and persecuting God's friends.

John 8:31-47

"Then Jesus went on to say to the Jews who had believed him: “If you remain in my word, you are really my disciples, and you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free.”

"They replied to him: “We are Abraham’s offspring and never have been slaves to anyone. How is it you say, ‘You will become free’?”

"Jesus answered them: “Most truly I say to you, every doer of sin is a slave of sin. Moreover, the slave does not remain in the household forever; the son remains forever. So if the Son sets you free, you will be truly free. I know that you are Abraham’s offspring. But you are seeking to kill me, because my word makes no progress among you. I speak the things I have seen while with my Father, but you do the things you have heard from your father.”

"In answer they said to him: “Our father is Abraham.”

"Jesus said to them: “If you were Abraham’s children, you would be doing the works of Abraham. But now you are seeking to kill me, a man who has told you the truth that I heard from God. Abraham did not do this. You are doing the works of your father.”

"They said to him: “We were not born from immorality; we have one Father, God.”

"Jesus said to them: “If God were your Father, you would love me, for I came from God and I am here. I have not come of my own initiative, but that One sent me. Why do you not understand what I am saying? Because you cannot listen to my word. You are from your father the Devil, and you wish to do the desires of your father. That one was a murderer when he began, and he did not stand fast in the truth, because truth is not in him. When he speaks the lie, he speaks according to his own disposition, because he is a liar and the father of the lie. Because I, on the other hand, tell you the truth, you do not believe me. Who of you convicts me of sin? If I speak truth, why is it that you do not believe me? The one who is from God listens to the sayings of God. This is why you do not listen, because you are not from God.”"

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The pushing berween the K of N and K of S

by Kosonen in

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the brics summit was big this year.

new member states were added.

interesting that they call themselves the global south.

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John didn't "acquire" special knowledge or powers - it was by God he was given the free gift of the holy spirit to understand and to act and to teach in harmony with God's Word and God's will. John didn't go to special schools or learn from special websites or read the writings of special scholars.

The scribes and Pharisees sought to "acquire" "special knowledge" for wrong motives, and it is the same with such-like ones today. Because they are asking for the wrong reasons, to exalt themselves over others, the knowledge and understanding of the scriptures are hidden from them.

When Daniel chapter 11 was written down, the events foretold were yet future. Since many of those events have happened, part of those prophecies are now history. Some of the prophecies haven't happened yet. If Josephus recorded some of those events correctly in his histories after they happened, what of it? Does that negate that the prophecies were recorded in Daniel chapter 11? Not at all.

Jesus is the one who pours out the holy spirit on whoever Jehovah draws today. If it's some lowly, unscholarly, country-bumpkin of a person who figuratively eats locusts and honey, what of it? It wouldn't be the first time some lowly person looked down upon by society in general was used to deliver information. It's also not surprising when those who are looking to "scholars" for answers totally overlook the ones Jehovah sends. That is Jehovah's way. He has a sense of humor.

1 Corinthians 1:19-31

"For it is written: “I will make the wisdom of the wise men perish, and the intelligence of the intellectuals I will reject.” Where is the wise man? Where is the scribe? Where is the debater of this system of things? Has not God made the wisdom of the world foolish?

"For since, in the wisdom of God, the world did not get to know God through its wisdom, God was pleased through the foolishness of what is preached to save those believing. For the Jews ask for signs and the Greeks look for wisdom; but we preach Christ executed on the stake, to the Jews a cause for stumbling but to the nations foolishness.

"However, to those who are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ is the power of God and the wisdom of God. Because a foolish thing of God is wiser than men, and a weak thing of God is stronger than men.

"For you see his calling of you, brothers, that there are not many wise in a fleshly way, not many powerful, not many of noble birth, but God chose the foolish things of the world to put the wise men to shame; and God chose the weak things of the world to put the strong things to shame; and God chose the insignificant things of the world and the things looked down on, the things that are not, to bring to nothing the things that are, so that no one might boast in the sight of God.

"But it is due to him that you are in union with Christ Jesus, who has become to us wisdom from God, also righteousness and sanctification and release by ransom, so that it may be just as it is written: “The one who boasts, let him boast in Jehovah.”"

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About the Mark of the Beast

by Kosonen in

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i can agree on most of what this man preaches about the mark of the beast.. https://madmaxworld.tv/watch?id=64fd01a1112661824fb397c7.

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(😂 @KalebOutWest, I am a brunette, not a blond, and my hair is a lot longer than the person depicted in that picture, and it's wavy, not straight. Also, I am not 500 feet tall, only 5 foot 2 inches. And I laugh a lot - that guy's way too serious - but I do like lightning and rainbows and the ocean, so you at least got that part right...)

When I was in my late teens, we had to know how to identify the mark of the beast - I was working as a meat wrapper in the local butcher department and we had to know which sticker to use on what package...

("Got beef?"😆)

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About the Mark of the Beast

by Kosonen in

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i can agree on most of what this man preaches about the mark of the beast.. https://madmaxworld.tv/watch?id=64fd01a1112661824fb397c7.

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(If you want to carry on with your temper tantrum, @KalebOutWest, I'm leaving this thread. When I left last time to take a break from the forum, someone messaged me and asked me to come back and respond to a few posts, so I did. But I don't have anything else to say right now. Feel free to slander and heap reproach all you want. I won't be here, but God is listening.)

Matthew 11:16-19

"“With whom will I compare this generation? It is like young children sitting in the marketplaces who call out to their playmates, saying: ‘We played the flute for you, but you did not dance; we wailed, but you did not beat yourselves in grief.’ Likewise, John came neither eating nor drinking, but people say, ‘He has a demon.’ The Son of man did come eating and drinking, but people say, ‘Look! A man who is a glutton and is given to drinking wine, a friend of tax collectors and sinners.’ All the same, wisdom is proved righteous by its works.""

Matthew 23:27-36

"“Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! because you resemble whitewashed graves, which outwardly indeed appear beautiful but inside are full of dead men’s bones and of every sort of uncleanness. In the same way, on the outside you appear righteous to men, but inside you are full of hypocrisy and lawlessness. “Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! because you build the graves of the prophets and decorate the tombs of the righteous ones, and you say, ‘If we had lived in the days of our forefathers, we would not have shared with them in shedding the blood of the prophets.’ Therefore, you are testifying against yourselves that you are sons of those who murdered the prophets. Well, then, fill up the measure of your forefathers. “Serpents, offspring of vipers, how will you flee from the judgment of Ge·henʹna? For this reason, I am sending to you prophets and wise men and public instructors. Some of them you will kill and execute on stakes, and some of them you will scourge in your synagogues and persecute from city to city, so that there may come upon you all the righteous blood spilled on earth, from the blood of righteous Abel to the blood of Zech·a·riʹah son of Bar·a·chiʹah, whom you murdered between the sanctuary and the altar. Truly I say to you, all these things will come upon this generation."

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About the Mark of the Beast

by Kosonen in

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friends

i can agree on most of what this man preaches about the mark of the beast.. https://madmaxworld.tv/watch?id=64fd01a1112661824fb397c7.

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If you were watching on that other thread, then you know that I was telling the truth and when the other person was exposed as a liar they resorted to sharing shockingly debased images. The other person on that thread shared images of a boy tied up getting raped by a man in a helmet. That other person's posts were reported and deleted from that thread by the site owner because they were obscene and distasteful.

The person on that other thread was offended by me for the same reason you are offended, because I tell the truth. When they were exposed, they resorted to offensive images. You are offended because I tell the truth, and then you insult me and call me "arrogant and hateful", when in truth you are exposing what is in your own heart.

You don't love truth. You oppose it, just like you oppose God. "Your end will be according to your works."

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About the Mark of the Beast

by Kosonen in

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i can agree on most of what this man preaches about the mark of the beast.. https://madmaxworld.tv/watch?id=64fd01a1112661824fb397c7.

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KalebOutWest said: "I didn't say I didn't understand it."

You didn't have to. It's obvious.

KalebOutWest said: "I didn't say I didn't understand it. I wrote that I did because there are scholars and academics that do too."

I haven't seen one yet.

KalebOutWest said: "Academics and scholars aren't people who "make up" things about the books of Daniel and Revelation."

Sure they are. That's how they make money or attempt to get prominence, by pretending to be "know-it-alls".

KalebOutWest said: "The scholars that you are mocking and that I am talking about are people like Jewish sages such as Maimonides and other great Hebrew teachers of history such as Ravi. I am also making reference to the Church and Apostolic Fathers"

Possibly. Most of those guys corrupt truths just as soon as they open their mouths.

KalebOutWest said: "That is who you are talking about whar you said "they don't know jack about what Revelation means.""

Yes, you are right, that is the likes of who I am talking about, and also those modern frauds who also try to lord it over others.

KalebOutWest said: "Without them we would not even have the Book of Revelation."

That's a lie. God is the reason we have access to the Bible.

KalebOutWest said: "You talk about "love" is what you need to protect you from the "mark of the beast." Your type of love is not helping you do anything but be arrogant and hateful and close-minded and turn people off.
Who would want to be like you? I would rather hear from the great teachers of the Jews, the Church Fathers than from someone like you. You are not a person of love. You are dark and dimwitted."

I am not perfect, and I'm not looking for followers. I love truth, and I follow the Christ, the light. Those you follow seek glory from men. You love what they love. It's no wonder you don't love truth. "If the light in you is darkness, how great that darkness is." Christ condemned the types of "scholars" you esteem.

(Happy trails, KalebOutWest - it's going to be a wild ride out there in make-believe land once the reality hits about your "scholar" heroes being frauds🤠.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXFil77aj1o

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About the Mark of the Beast

by Kosonen in

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friends

i can agree on most of what this man preaches about the mark of the beast.. https://madmaxworld.tv/watch?id=64fd01a1112661824fb397c7.

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(Haha, that's funny, @SeaBreeze, you went back and edited "fun exercise" to read "educational exercise", lol...)

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About the Mark of the Beast

by Kosonen in

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friends

i can agree on most of what this man preaches about the mark of the beast.. https://madmaxworld.tv/watch?id=64fd01a1112661824fb397c7.

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"...the number of a name...

Here's a fun exercise:"

Lol😆...@SeaBreeze, your "explanation" and "fun exercise" reminded me of this...

"What's the name of the game?"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8dIKNMh5Co

"If your name equals 666, you could be the Anti-Christ. "

😂

(Sorry, @SeaBreeze, I don't play those kinds of games anymore.)

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About the Mark of the Beast

by Kosonen in

jw
friends

i can agree on most of what this man preaches about the mark of the beast.. https://madmaxworld.tv/watch?id=64fd01a1112661824fb397c7.

..

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@KalebOutWest, you must be way way out West...lol😆...

KalebOutWest said: "They read Revelation and the Bible without any critical type of approach, without any consideration of its ancient form of genre. It isn't a prophecy, it's an apocalypse. Its alternative title is even "The Apocalypse of John."
An apocalypse is a writing containing political intrigue that is filled with commentary on what was happening during the author's lifetime written in the name of a prophet as if they were oracles foretelling the future."

"ἀποκάλυψις apokálypsis, ap-ok-al'-oop-sis; from G601; disclosure:—appearing, coming, lighten, manifestation, be revealed, revelation." (Strong's definitions)

@KalebOutWest, Revelation isn't a "political intrigue". Just because you don't understand it doesn't mean there isn't someone else who does understand it. God had it written and He understands it, and He can let whoever He wants understand it, even the lowliest person on the planet, if He wants to.

KalebOutWest said: "There are countless commentaries explaining what the authors were talking about in the past that academics agree upon (in other words, scholars know more or less what these writers were saying as they were talking about the past, not looking into the future). That's why there are commentaries on the subject."

Most "scholars" don't know jack about what Revelation means. Neither do the youtubers who make stuff up about the mark of the beast, or internet website bloggers who want to beg for donations for supporting their supposed "work for the Lord" (aka, their own pocketbook).

Just because some ridiculous wack-jobs wrongly conclude that the "mark of the beast" is Obamacare or tags or microchips or vaccines or whatever doesn't negate that fact that Revelation is prophecy from God.

There is no "magic potion" to get "saved". There is no "secret sauce" to get "saved". There is no "special number" or "charm" or superstitious hoosiewhatsis to avoid in order to get "saved". Jehovah is not some God of superstition.

Revelation was given in signs. The rest of the Bible and holy spirit helps explain what the signs mean.

Exodus 13:9

"And this will serve for you as a sign on your hand and as a memorial on your forehead, so that Jehovah’s law may be in your mouth, for with a mighty hand Jehovah brought you out of Egypt."

Deuteronomy 6:6-8

"These words that I am commanding you today must be on your heart...Tie them as a reminder on your hand, and they must be like a headband on your forehead."

In ancient times, when the Jews were told to keep the Law on tied on their hands and on their foreheads, it didn't mean literally. It meant they should let it guide their thinking and their actions. It's the same with the illustration about the mark of the beast. Those having the mark of the beast are contrasted with those who do not have the mark of the beast on their forehead or hand.

Revelation 20:4

"Yes, I saw the souls of those executed for the witness they gave about Jesus and for speaking about God, and those who had not worshipped the wild beast or its image and had not received the mark on their forehead and on their hand."

Faithful ones do not let ungodly, beastly ways dominate their thinking and actions.

That's all the mark of the beast is. It's not anything huge. It's not complicated. The mark of the beast just means being morally stupid. It's figurative, not literal.

Revelation 13:18

"This is where it calls for wisdom: Let the one who has insight calculate the number of the wild beast, for it is a man’s number, and its number is 666."

Six is one short of seven. The sabbath rest was on the seventh day. The Kingdom with Christ as King will provide true rest for mankind. Neither the UN nor any part of Satan's political system can provide rest for mankind. The political systems are deficient. Those who rest their hope for salvation on the UN or other parts of Satan's political system will be marked figuratively "666". Their thinking is deficient - if they really think the worldly governments can solve all earth's problems, they really have no clue.

God is Love. Those who let love guide their thinking and actions are not beastly. Love is what will protect people from having the figurative "mark of the beast".

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Mandated Shunning is a Crime

by Lee Marsh in

mandated shunning is on the rise around the world with devastating effects on millions of people.

shunning that is mandated by organized groups to its members is a form of both physical and psychological violence against those people being shunned and cut off from their family and life-long relationships.

mandated shunning means that the shunning is ordered from the top down.

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Mandated shunning, as currently practiced in the Jehovah's Witnesses organization, is a crime in Jehovah's eyes. God is Love, and the disfellowshipping doctrine as currently practiced is anti-love, antiChrist.

The Bible makes clear that justice took place in the city gate in ancient times, so that those serving as judges were in view of many witnesses as a deterrent to corruption.

The verses in John's writings and Paul's writings and the gospels that are pointed to by WTBT$ leaders as support for their current disfellowshipping doctrine don't fit such an application when they are examined in context and in harmony with the rest of the scriptures.

Whether or not the nations currently feel that mandated shunning in the Jehovah's Witnesses organization is crime or not won't change the fact that Jehovah thinks it's a crime.

He has already said what He will do to remedy the matter.

Revelation 17:15-18

"He said to me: “The waters that you saw, where the prostitute is sitting, mean peoples and crowds and nations and tongues. And the ten horns that you saw and the wild beast, these will hate the prostitute and will make her devastated and naked, and they will eat up her flesh and completely burn her with fire. For God put it into their hearts to carry out his thought, yes, to carry out their one thought by giving their kingdom to the wild beast, until the words of God will have been accomplished. And the woman whom you saw means the great city that has a kingdom over the kings of the earth.”"

God appointed pagan kings to do His will in the past, like Cyrus. God will permit the governments to remove the "mandated banning" business of the Jehovah's Witnesses organization when the governments tear down the religious institutions. It's already as good as done.