multiple very serious allegations against tony and then huge efforts to remove him from all pictures and videos, have to admit it doesn’t look good.. once the pennsylvania investigation becomes public knowledge and front page news it will be very very hard for 8 million pimis.. is it possible that this could be the largest problem the branch has ever faced?
larger than 1975, the overlapping generations or any other ‘test of faith’.
many will feel heartbroken and betrayed.
The WTBT$ doesn't solely use the funds the way they advertise to the donors. I wonder how at risk they are at losing their tax-exempt non-profit status.
https://www.501c3.org/misappropriating-nonprofit-funds/
https://www.captrust.com/transparent-reputations-and-nonprofit-organizations/
lengths of life of the patriarchs.
genesis.
length of life.
@DesirousOfChange, Yeah, I'm not a troll. I've been hoodwinked many times, and I have been hurt by a lot of pathological liars in the JWBorg, so I am a bit oversensitive if I suspect someone might be trying to pull one over on me. Sometimes I react too "loudly" now as a more recent learned defense mechanism (for a long time I didn't say anything at all, just got steamrolled). I know it's not the best quality, and I am working on it, but I'm slow. I apologize for seeming "troll-like". I don't mean to come across that way.
@Vidiot, thank you.💖
"jesus related 30 - 50 parables/similes.
can you name just one which was to be understood as a prophecy?
utterly amaze them by showing that there is one - allegedly!.
The so-called "FD$" are false prophets, as is described by Jesus in Matthew 7:15 - "Be on the watch for the false prophets who come to you in sheep’s covering, but inside they are ravenous wolves."
The fact that there would be "false prophets" implies that there would also be true prophets.
regarding the state dissolving a church organization.... .
as posted in another thread, here is what is happening in japan, filing a court order to dissolve the unification church.... .
https://www.eurasiareview.com/06092023-japan-seeks-court-order-to-dissolve-unification-church/.
God is the Highest Authority. He is the One who invented Legality.
AnonyMous said: "I was just speaking legally, there is nothing wrong, they are not transparent about donations, but they don’t have to be. It doesn’t phase me one bit, because every religious organization does it."
That is exactly why every religious organization is going to be removed. According to God, legally those religious organizations do have to be transparent about the donations, because God set the precedent in the Bible. He is honest. Any organization claiming to represent Him needs to be honest too.
The religious institutions have failed, and they will be dismantled and removed.
mandated shunning is on the rise around the world with devastating effects on millions of people.
shunning that is mandated by organized groups to its members is a form of both physical and psychological violence against those people being shunned and cut off from their family and life-long relationships.
mandated shunning means that the shunning is ordered from the top down.
Shunning in and of itself is a personal decision. The "crime" is that a group of men who fraudulently claim to represent God dictate who is "shun-worthy" to their misinformed followers. The GB of the CCJW do not follow what is written in the scriptures. They do not have authority from God to execute group ostracism judgments that according to the Bible should be personal decisions of individual Christians.
If the corporate structure of the JWBorg was taken down, then the disfellowshipping doctrine of the WTBT$ would end. There would be no centralized structure holding records of disfellowshipped individuals, no Bethel Service Department enforcing and encouraging bans, no Pharisaical writing group making up extra unscriptural rules. The ungodly authoritarian structure behind the enforcement of the disfellowshipping doctrine would be gone. People in local congregations would have to make up their own minds as to who they want to hang out with and who they want to shun independently of any corporate structure, which is the way the Bible is written anyway, with respect for the consciences of individual Christians to make up their own minds on who they will associate with.
The current governments express the desire to protect religious freedoms, not religious frauds. The fraudulence of the WTBT$ claiming to be Christ's judges has gone on long enough.
https://archive.org/details/studiesinscriptu06russ/page/418/mode/1up
"jesus related 30 - 50 parables/similes.
can you name just one which was to be understood as a prophecy?
utterly amaze them by showing that there is one - allegedly!.
@BoogerMan, yes, so clear that the illustration Jesus gave about the faithful and discreet slave is about keeping on the watch. It is not about some "title" - it is about keeping on the watch.
@AnonyMous, I'm not sure what you are talking about. The Bible is clear that God sends prophets even today.
Amos 3:7
"For the Sovereign Lord Jehovah will not do a thing
Unless he has revealed his confidential matter to his servants the prophets."
Jeremiah 25:4
"And Jehovah sent all his servants the prophets to you, sending them again and again, but you would not listen or incline your ear to hear."
Jesus was a prophet. The parable in Matthew 24:45 that the WTBT$ likes to misapply is actually designed to encourage Christians to keep on the watch for the rest of the prophecies that Jesus foretold would happen. The great and awe-inspiring day of Jehovah is soon to begin, and Jehovah will continue to send His prophets to help the people get ready for what is to come.
Malachi 4:5,6
"“Look! I am sending to you E·liʹjah the prophet before the coming of the great and awe-inspiring day of Jehovah. And he will turn the hearts of fathers back toward sons, and the hearts of sons back toward fathers, so that I may not come and strike the earth, devoting it to destruction.""
yes, i too have wondered how an assembly that is held in a fully paid for assembly hall, with no food service, could possibly have $10,000 in expenses.
i suppose the bethel speakers have transportation expenses - maybe $1000 or so.
as for rent on the assembly hall, well you have already paid for it once, why pay again?
https://www.maine.gov/governor/mills/news/governor-mills-declares-state-emergency-anticipation-hurricane-lee-requests-presidential
Governor Mills of Maine filed for state of the emergency due to the storm approaching the state this Saturday.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/sep/15/hurricane-lee-maine-emergency-biden-canada
President Biden approved of the request declaring emergency.
https://www.newscentermaine.com/article/news/local/public-safety/city-of-augusta-to-open-temporary-storm-shelter-in-response-to-hurricane-lee-weather-maine/97-ca34f774-9d85-46e0-84ee-997b480f3898
The capitol city of Augusta Maine designated the Augusta Civic Center as an emergency shelter.
Incidentally, JWBorg had their assembly scheduled there at the Augusta Civic Center today, the same day the storm is expected to hit. Another venue had scheduled the civic center for an evening event, but cancelled that event a few days ago. Did the JWBorg cancel their assembly?
Nope. My PIMQ relative got an email that the assembly was still going on. Here is a screenshot of another local JWBorger talking about the assembly today...
Over 90,000 people lost power in Maine. Many of the little old ladies who drove to the civic center for the assembly had to drive there from rural towns or the coast, and had to drive home possibly in places where there will be downed trees in the road or flooding. So much for the "shepherds" looking out for the "safety" of the sheep.
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i know i was suicidal before i was disfellowshipped.
and it got worse after i left.
one night a friend told me that he went home the night before and wasn't sure if he would ever hear from me again.
BethSarim said: "These guys may lose this position of "power" sooner than you think."
That will be a happy day!🥳🎉😃🥰🌷💞
i know i was suicidal before i was disfellowshipped.
and it got worse after i left.
one night a friend told me that he went home the night before and wasn't sure if he would ever hear from me again.
(I hope any of those crushed by the horrid disfellowshipping doctrine or by the ungodly pressure of the WTBT$ or by any of life's anxieties get the comfort they need to endure the pain. We only have to get through one minute at a time. Suicide is never the answer, and the sun always comes up eventually💖.)
i know i was suicidal before i was disfellowshipped.
and it got worse after i left.
one night a friend told me that he went home the night before and wasn't sure if he would ever hear from me again.
(I will private message you, @stanlivedeath🙂)
Some disfellowshipped people don't have access to a lot of outside help.
For instance, if one mate is abusive and still in the JWBorg, and the other mate is disfellowshipped and there are children, the congregation will support the abusive JWBorg mate, even providing legal assistance to the abusive JWBorg member in an attempt to prevent the disfellowshipped mate from having full custody of the children if she tried to get away.
Also there are times the disfellowshipped mate is financially cut off because the abusive JWBorg member withholds finances and an opportunity to work as punishment for the disfellowshipped mate. The disfellowshipped mate may have to stay "hostage" to the JWBorg member in order to protect the children. The abusive JWBorg member may also prevent the disfellowshipped mate from cultivating relationships outside the home in other ways.
The congregation elders and Bethel promote such "hostage" situations. Suicide is never the answer, but for some in such situations, the idea of being able to go to sleep to get away from the torture is very tempting.
The JWBorg dictators are bloodguilty for creating such situations and promoting abuse and shunning. They are evil, and many, many people will rejoice and feel free once they are removed from their positions of power.
