newsheep thank you for sharing what seems to be a really horrific experience.
It seems to me that the average JW enjoys being part of the snoop operation. It’s almost like that’s the only excitement they get in their sad, dreary lives.
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is the watchtower cult the most hated religion ?
by stan livedeath inhated by many members of the public for their ( former ?
) door knocking and preaching at the most inopportune times ( at work for instance ).
hated by former members who are now shunned by family and former friends.. hated by thousands ( millions maybe ) of pimos who only stay for fear of losing wives / family friends.. can you name any religious cult thats even worse ?.
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Introductions
by Lobsto inwell, i finally made an account.
i’ve been lurking on here for four or so years, enjoying the debates and experiences of all of you.
it really helped in that initial year after i woke up, when the frustration and betrayal felt strongest.
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Welcome to the best life ever! That is a life where you are free to pursue your dreams; to leave the world in a better place than you found it; and to be attracted to hot women without the self loathing and guilt that Watchtower imposes on young men for doing so. I’m envious that you’re free at such a young age! Congratulations and welcome to the forum. This is an excellent place for support.
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Dangerous promotion of 'Serving where the need is Greater'
by eyeslice2 inboth the june and july broadcasts featured sections about serving where the need is greater.
as i recall, my wife watches them as i hover in the background, india and thailand have both been heavily featured.
next, i hear some friends talking about how they are thinking of moving to india.
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There are some really irresponsible ‘need greaters’ on Instagram who travel to these lands as a family with children. Of course the kids are going to say yes to moving to Thailand or India - it sounds so exciting. The reality is that their childhood and indeed their future educational and career prospects are being sabotaged just so the parents can feel fulfilled in this ridiculous cult.
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is the watchtower cult the most hated religion ?
by stan livedeath inhated by many members of the public for their ( former ?
) door knocking and preaching at the most inopportune times ( at work for instance ).
hated by former members who are now shunned by family and former friends.. hated by thousands ( millions maybe ) of pimos who only stay for fear of losing wives / family friends.. can you name any religious cult thats even worse ?.
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If you live outside of a traditionally Christian country, as I do, then you will find that most people don’t even know what a JW is. They simply lump all the Bible believers together as Christian. It makes me laugh to see the brothers on the trolley insist to interested ones that we are different.
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Weird Jehovah’s Witnesses
by minimus inis it my imagination or are most witnesses weird, odd, and “different “?
it seems every congregation has a couple of weirdo elders, pioneers and ministerial servants.
and then you see those witnesses who attend meetings but most people seldom associate with them because... they are eccentric..
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For anyone who spent their formative years in this cult, it is going to have a critical impact on their social skills. I have always had an inability to make friends with worldly people because even though most are lovely, I seem to look down on them or view them as fit for destruction. Also, I have never experienced the things most people have had due to strict JW upbringing - I have nothing in common with worldly people. At the same time, I despise the shallow, fake friends at the hall. The result of all of this is social isolation. Yes it is of no surprise that people view us as a bit weird.
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Bite Model
by lriddle80 inhas anyone ever shown a jw that came to your door the bite model of a cult?
what happened?
i am thinking of using that strategy if one comes a' knocking..
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Bite Model
by lriddle80 inhas anyone ever shown a jw that came to your door the bite model of a cult?
what happened?
i am thinking of using that strategy if one comes a' knocking..
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As a fairly recently awakened JW, I have devoured JWfacts as well as John Cedars YouTube. However, this BITE model is a revelation. I wonder if this (Steve Hassan) could be a more gentle way into helping family JWs as it is not anti JW but rather it is anti cult. I remember JWs pride themselves on saying that they are definitely NOT a cult. This could be a way in, perhaps? -
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New Child Abuse Case in australia
by ZindagiNaMilegiDobaara innew court case in australia.
there may be a pay wall on this... hopefully it can be viewed.. .
https://www.couriermail.com.au/news/regional/man-sues-religious-organisation-for-24m-over-abuse/news-story/4f0acec0910cfb3b84daadd5e721b2d7.
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The organization absolutely does coordinate and is responsible for appointments and activities within each congregation. It is the policies that cause the damage and if an elder were to act contrary to policy then his would roll.
This is I fear is an example of where the organization has used its legal prowess to absolve itself of any responsibility. They are masters of going through legal loopholes which amounts to nothing short of dishonesty.
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Parenting through seperation
by rathernotsay inhi everyone, was hoping i could share my experience, read other people's, and perhaps receive some advice regarding parenting through seperation.. so my wife of 8 odd years, and mother to my 3 children (8,6,3) and i have separated.
largely due to our differences not just with religion but all areas of life.
the breakup was amicable, and we remain somewhat friendly to one another while we work all this out.
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1) Be a good dad, as advised above. Your children need to feel safe and secure with both parents. Be careful, if you push holidays etc then they will feel compromised in your company. Especially is this the case if your ex is strong in the truth. She will train them to have a bible-trained conscience and your children will feel very bad if you push anything that conflicts with watchtower ideology.
2) Be interested in their theocratic progress. Ask them how they’re getting on at meetings, giving talks and if they have had any ministry experiences. You can still casually talk to them about your atheism but never try and force it down them. NEVER be critical of Watchtower! In fact, it’s possible to be critical of god or Jehovah, but once you start being critical of the organization then your ex and your children will see you as a danger and your future with them will be under threat.
When they are older they will respect you and can make their own decision. In the meantime, your children will be encouraged to spend time with you and to honor you even if, sadly, the ultimate aim of mother and children will be to ‘win you without a word’ or in other words, to convert you to Watchtower.
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My own mother would rather see my death
by GetMeOutofHere inapparently, according to my mother, the worst thing that could happen to me is not dying in a car crash or getting cancer but instead would be me leaving jehovah and his organization.
i of course realize this is the position of jws but to hear my own mother verbalize it on a gentle walk in the woods was painful to say the least.
needless to say, i cannot tell her i am mentally out..
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Kind words and advice. Thank you.