Posts by patkim

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Is the WT’s Paradise Earth doctrine a delusion?

by deegee in

the wt’s teaching that humans will live forever on a paradise earth will necessitate that given that there will be no more death, then immortal humans will have to be relocated to other planets in order to prevent the earth from becoming overpopulated.. so how many habitable, earth-like planets are there?more and more habitable, earth-like planets would have to become available on a continuous, never-ending basis ad infinitum as mankind’s population grows given that there will be no more death.. the longevity/sustainability of life on these planets will be limited by the fact that the sun serving these planets will eventually die:https://shar.es/1cko6n.

http://www.space.com/22437-main-sequence-stars.html#sthash.ejbt1xrz.dpuf.

so immortal humans will have to keep moving from planet to planet.

patkim

Since learning TTATT I have become a man on a mission to learn everything I can about everything. I've become a man of science in many ways and arming myself for the inevitable day of my resignation. So far I have postponed that.

But the biggest piece of evidence that the WT is selling delusion is the fact that our sun has less than 5 Billion years left before it goes all nova on us. But long before that, say in about just 10 million years the earth will no longer be inhabitable as the atmosphere gets withered away. Carl Sagan famously said that we humans have about 100 years to figure out how to get off this rock. That was 30 years ago.

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Walking a thin line - Resigning Elder

by Sanchy in

jw
friends

warning of a long boring post ahead.

i feel like i need to vent my story out, as i feel quite helpless at the moment.. i'm 31 year old, married, father of toddler with another one on the way, due later this month.

i've been serving as elder for about 4 years now in a south florida congregation.

patkim

I finally have the strength and time to write a follow up post about my life and I hope that OP Sancy is still here and reading this. Its been over a month now since my life has forever changed although I still have not officially resigned my position. I spoke to a friend who is currently serving as an elder in NJ whom I have not seen or heard from in a long time and his sentiment was not his usual positive JW self. I felt he wanted to confess in me something as well but neither of us wanted to be the first to admit anything. It was if he knew that I knew that he knew but if one of us was wrong then we could be considered apostate. It was a Mexican standoff. So we continued with small talk. But we both knew that something was not right and that was that since he was the one who called me out of the blue. It was awkward to say the least and our conversation ended with make sure you send our love to the family. I just thought it was worth mentioning here.

As far as my situation goes I have already skipped 2 Thursdays and I'm not sure if I should submit my time report for the month of Feb as I have no official time to report but was thinking about putting the obligatory 2 hours down to buy some time. My wife seems to be adapting to the situation although she is not happy but she has not mentioned anything in particular and she stayed home with me those days. Our relationship is suffering because she wants me to do more and I don't think it is fair to either of us. I know soon I will need to man up and just tell her everything and that I can no longer do this. I am hoping that eventually she will wake up as well as I plant seeds of truth in her brain. I told her she should read the elders handbook and come to her own conclusion but she actually refused and said it is not right that I even suggest that to her. So we left it at that but I did touch on 2 points in the handbook which are sensitive topics for her and that might be enough for her to become curious. I made photo copies of the book at work as I will need to turn it in once I resign so she can read it in her own time. Thanks.

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Walking a thin line - Resigning Elder

by Sanchy in

jw
friends

warning of a long boring post ahead.

i feel like i need to vent my story out, as i feel quite helpless at the moment.. i'm 31 year old, married, father of toddler with another one on the way, due later this month.

i've been serving as elder for about 4 years now in a south florida congregation.

patkim

I'm literally sitting here in tears and because of this post I was moved to create an account so I could reply and being home from work sick this past week has really afforded me the time I needed to just continue my research. We are in a **very** similar situation. Both married with a child on the way, both elders, both recently awake, both in our 30's, both in Florida (north of JAX), both on nerves end about everything we discovered. I find myself walking around questioning everything now, like a crazy person who forgot to take his meds. I don't have anyone to talk to about how I feel.

Having a child on the way does complicate things. The timing is all wrong because my awakening occurred the same week we found out my wife was prego and now I don't know what to do. I haven't resigned yet but another elder questioned why I suddenly have been declining assignments and skipping service. I can no longer bring myself to talk to anyone about my religion when I know it is a total lie. It hurts. What hurts more is the thought of telling my wife. I love her. I do. But I already know her reaction in advance and that hurts me the most.

I'm not interested in ignoring the bad stuff of imperfect men and going around telling people that I have the truth! I'm not going to pretend anymore. The best thing to ever happen to me was watching the GB members on JW broadcasting with my wife for our family study. That was it. One thing lead to another and I started to research my own religion on google. I discovered the Australian Royal Commission video with Jackson and Company attempting to lie under oath to the investigator. That was the final straw. If that did not make it clear to the 8 million JW's out there that this is just another man made religion with zero credibility to represent God almighty then I honestly don't know what else there is to say to wake them up.

It's like being in an alternate universe. I'm not the man my wife married. I was ignorant, naive and self righteous back then and what was considered a good example in the hall. I shunned my own family for making mistakes and leaving Jehovah. I shunned friends I have known for years for making mistakes and not following the rules of men. I marked individuals in my hall because they were not being spiritual enough and were bad association. I purposely didn't invite certain friends in the hall who needed the support, over to my house because they missed a Sunday meeting. I belittled a sister because she committed fornication twice with a friend of mine and judged her to forever being a slut. I can't believe I'm now admitting this. It makes me fell sick to think about what I have done and what I need to do to correct it. What kind of man was I? My heart is heavy with regret.

When I first uncovered the real truth about my own religion, I asked myself where do I go now? I answered that question by telling God, if he is real and I am wrong to please help me see it. All it did was open my eyes even further to the terrible realization that my own religion was a complete lie based on rules of men and empty interpretations that constantly need adjustments because they are NOT from God. It was that simple. There is no new light just the same old light changing colors to fit whatever failed interpretations those silly fat men make up.

I didn't feel it was worth me to start a whole new thread about this since you touched on all the same points I'm going through. So I'm just here to tell you that there are others like us!