Wrong: See the Sept 15, 1981 WT. Disassociation = the Anti Christ = shunning
“Cancel my subscription to the resurrection. Send my credentials to the House of Detention, I got some friends inside.....” The Doors
i have had several here tell me that if try to disassociate yourself from the org that you will be subject to shunning.
is this true?.
i discussed this issue with the witnesses with whom i study.
Wrong: See the Sept 15, 1981 WT. Disassociation = the Anti Christ = shunning
“Cancel my subscription to the resurrection. Send my credentials to the House of Detention, I got some friends inside.....” The Doors
im just curious about this:.
mine is stupid, but thoroughly humiliating at the same time.. my mother made me wear high heels for the first time to an assembly when i was 15 years old.
it was all snow and ice that day, but i made it inside fine without slipping.. during the first session, the naughty girl that i was, had gotten bored, so i decided to go to the restroom.. i guess the floors were wet or something, because i slipped and fell down about 17 or 18 steps.... head over heels, quite literally.. i landed at the bottome with my dress up over my head, showing off all my under "wares: lol!.
Beepers: That reminds me of the times I would go door to door with my pals and I would catch them off guard by starting off, saying:
“Greetings, I am one of Jehovah’s Witnesses, and my friend has something he wants to tell you.”
Gets them off guard every time!! Very funny......
“Cancel my subscription to the resurrection. Send my credentials to the House of Detention, I got some friends inside.....” The Doors
hi all,.
all my experience is that once a jw begins to question the organization, a irreversible progression sets in that leads inexorably to a total disaffection with the organization that no amount of ``shepherding'' can change.. so my question to you all is: can we document one single case in which a disgruntled ex-jw was successfully reactivated/restored to loyal dubdom?
(my impression is that the efficacy of elders' ``shepherding calls'' is a myth, a total waste of time).
""they are more likely to return than someone who leaves for Doctrinal reason""
JT: sooo true.
“Cancel my subscription to the resurrection. Send my credentials to the House of Detention, I got some friends inside.....” The Doors
let me explain.. firstly i have seen any number of so-called attempted suicides.
i've walked past an old girl friends house, seen her watching tv through the window, by the time i'm knocking on the door she's told me that she had her head in the gas oven and my knock stopped her.. my mother in law walks into the sea for a pastime.
every time she can't get her own way she walks in up to her knees and waits for someone to see her.
""I have little time for those people who choose to be permanent victims, and in being that way drive the rest of us nuts.""
You hit the nail on the head!
“Cancel my subscription to the resurrection. Send my credentials to the House of Detention, I got some friends inside.....” The Doors
hi all,.
all my experience is that once a jw begins to question the organization, a irreversible progression sets in that leads inexorably to a total disaffection with the organization that no amount of ``shepherding'' can change.. so my question to you all is: can we document one single case in which a disgruntled ex-jw was successfully reactivated/restored to loyal dubdom?
(my impression is that the efficacy of elders' ``shepherding calls'' is a myth, a total waste of time).
Good observation. As an Elder, I was told that Apostates never come back, once they are gone, they are gone. However, I have seen some come back because of family pressures to return. They just stay low, do the least to stay in good favor.
“Cancel my subscription to the resurrection. Send my credentials to the House of Detention, I got some friends inside.....” The Doors
let me explain.. firstly i have seen any number of so-called attempted suicides.
i've walked past an old girl friends house, seen her watching tv through the window, by the time i'm knocking on the door she's told me that she had her head in the gas oven and my knock stopped her.. my mother in law walks into the sea for a pastime.
every time she can't get her own way she walks in up to her knees and waits for someone to see her.
Has this topic reached a dead end?
“Cancel my subscription to the resurrection. Send my credentials to the House of Detention, I got some friends inside.....” The Doors
let me explain.. firstly i have seen any number of so-called attempted suicides.
i've walked past an old girl friends house, seen her watching tv through the window, by the time i'm knocking on the door she's told me that she had her head in the gas oven and my knock stopped her.. my mother in law walks into the sea for a pastime.
every time she can't get her own way she walks in up to her knees and waits for someone to see her.
binadub: I agree...well said!!
“Cancel my subscription to the resurrection. Send my credentials to the House of Detention, I got some friends inside.....” The Doors
im just curious about this:.
mine is stupid, but thoroughly humiliating at the same time.. my mother made me wear high heels for the first time to an assembly when i was 15 years old.
it was all snow and ice that day, but i made it inside fine without slipping.. during the first session, the naughty girl that i was, had gotten bored, so i decided to go to the restroom.. i guess the floors were wet or something, because i slipped and fell down about 17 or 18 steps.... head over heels, quite literally.. i landed at the bottome with my dress up over my head, showing off all my under "wares: lol!.
I was the Watchtower reader for Sunday’s study. I prided myself on my fast, efficient way I covered the material in front of the congregation.
Well, one line I was to read said something like “the eagle.............. the KING OF BIRDS...........”
I started to read the paragraph in my “fast” usual style, but what came out was “the eagle........the KING of BEERS.” The whole place went into a roar!!! The WT conductor, wiping tears from his eyes said “No more Budweiser for you today.” It took five min. to settle everyone down.
“Cancel my subscription to the resurrection. Send my credentials to the House of Detention, I got some friends inside.....” The Doors
let me explain.. firstly i have seen any number of so-called attempted suicides.
i've walked past an old girl friends house, seen her watching tv through the window, by the time i'm knocking on the door she's told me that she had her head in the gas oven and my knock stopped her.. my mother in law walks into the sea for a pastime.
every time she can't get her own way she walks in up to her knees and waits for someone to see her.
Good point, however, a lot of persons who are considering a final exit, do not let on to anyone what is going on in their mind......And most people who made a final exit (That I thought I knew) seemed like they had their act together.
“Cancel my subscription to the resurrection. Send my credentials to the House of Detention, I got some friends inside.....” The Doors
let me explain.. firstly i have seen any number of so-called attempted suicides.
i've walked past an old girl friends house, seen her watching tv through the window, by the time i'm knocking on the door she's told me that she had her head in the gas oven and my knock stopped her.. my mother in law walks into the sea for a pastime.
every time she can't get her own way she walks in up to her knees and waits for someone to see her.
There are two sides to the coin. Some, for whatever reasons (ongoing physical pain, some mental pain, others just loose the will to go on) want to end their life. I found this situation very interesting and perplexing at the same time.
I read a very interesting book, “The Final Exit,” written by a Doctor who gives an unemotional account of all sides to this issue. One of the subjects he covers was the “sloppy” way many end their lives or, they fail and are worse off than when they started, and then he cites the common causes from documentation why certain methods are used, and why they should be avoided. Then he proceeds to address ways the final exit can be attained in the most efficient way, while considering the aftermath of loved ones. A must read for all viewpoints on this sad subject!
“Cancel my subscription to the resurrection. Send my credentials to the House of Detention, I got some friends inside.....” The Doors