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  Deleting A Poster Akin To DF'ing?

  by Englishman in

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  i recently got an email from mr. moe.

  amongst other things, she says that she hated df'ing when she was a dub, so she abhores the banning of certain posters from this site, because it seems so similar to df'ing.. i think her opinion is of great value and warrants looking at closely.

  is suspending someone for the contents of their posts justifiable then?

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  ThiChi

  HS:

  ""How can anybody take this notion seriously when the owner of the Board, the person who sets the rules is considering the very issues, on this very thread, giving his reasons for his actions""

  Please dont twist my words. The question was how are persons like the Dubs by saying "if you dont like it leave." Not how Simon runs the board. Nice try.

  "What is the problem with this? As I explained earlier in my post above, this is standard modus of human behavior in any social group.Why does it now become an issue when it is applied to an XJW Board?"

  Haaa, the "Ad Populim" argument. If everyone does it, it must be alright!! I guess that works, if you are not Fred.

  "Presumably you mean by mantra the oft repeated statement that Simon owns the Board, sets the rules, if you do not like them you are free to leave? It seems to address the issues for the majority of the Boards subscribers, and that is surely all that can be hoped for with thousands of subscribers, each with a point of view."

  Sounds great though this was not my point nor the question at hand!
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  Deleting A Poster Akin To DF'ing?

  by Englishman in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i recently got an email from mr. moe.

  amongst other things, she says that she hated df'ing when she was a dub, so she abhores the banning of certain posters from this site, because it seems so similar to df'ing.. i think her opinion is of great value and warrants looking at closely.

  is suspending someone for the contents of their posts justifiable then?

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  ThiChi

  ""Thi Chi:

  Making a donation to a charity or organisation does not give you any "rights" or influence over how that charity or organisation is run. There are very good reasons for this. Imagine the Ku Klux Klan gaining control over the United Way by making a very large donation, for example.

  Expatbrit""

  I never stated that "Rights" should be given here. However, thats one organization I would not join if consideration is not given to those who support it (like the Dubs?). However, not to acknowledge those who give their time, $$ is not right, IMHO.

  Remember, we are standing as Witnesses against the WT and (among other things) their unfair treatment of their members, should we not then take the "high ground" in this area? How should you treat those who support your organization?

  X: I have always respected you and your posts. Keep up the good work!
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  Deleting A Poster Akin To DF'ing?

  by Englishman in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i recently got an email from mr. moe.

  amongst other things, she says that she hated df'ing when she was a dub, so she abhores the banning of certain posters from this site, because it seems so similar to df'ing.. i think her opinion is of great value and warrants looking at closely.

  is suspending someone for the contents of their posts justifiable then?

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  ThiChi

  X:

  Why change the subject? Address the issues..........(and lets hope you are not next!)
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  Deleting A Poster Akin To DF'ing?

  by Englishman in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i recently got an email from mr. moe.

  amongst other things, she says that she hated df'ing when she was a dub, so she abhores the banning of certain posters from this site, because it seems so similar to df'ing.. i think her opinion is of great value and warrants looking at closely.

  is suspending someone for the contents of their posts justifiable then?

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  ThiChi

  HS:

  Like the Jws, there is no consideration from the elite few when considering what rules to apply to whom. The issues? Who cares? You dont like it, leave. Or, better yet, we will remove you. Autocratic. Also, this mantra is a red herring. It does not address the issues at all. The Elders? They wear blinders and just do their job.

  This board does take public donations, so some "consideration" to persons that have a "stake" at making what the board is today, should be given, right? Or, do we only take the good with the bad?

  How do you feel about all the list members that have flamed Fred to the point that they too should be kicked out of your house, but have not? I feel that Fred was baited. However, he was wrong. Yet, two wrongs don't make a right, do they?

  Edited by - thichi on 22 August 2002 13:22:16

  Edited by - thichi on 22 August 2002 13:50:2
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  Deleting A Poster Akin To DF'ing?

  by Englishman in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i recently got an email from mr. moe.

  amongst other things, she says that she hated df'ing when she was a dub, so she abhores the banning of certain posters from this site, because it seems so similar to df'ing.. i think her opinion is of great value and warrants looking at closely.

  is suspending someone for the contents of their posts justifiable then?

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  ThiChi

  Radar:

  Keep the faith bro!
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  Deleting A Poster Akin To DF'ing?

  by Englishman in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i recently got an email from mr. moe.

  amongst other things, she says that she hated df'ing when she was a dub, so she abhores the banning of certain posters from this site, because it seems so similar to df'ing.. i think her opinion is of great value and warrants looking at closely.

  is suspending someone for the contents of their posts justifiable then?

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  ThiChi

  E-Man

  I do not appreciate you condescending manner. I did read your post, and I did read your "disclaimer." You have excused your actions (or lack of them) by way of blinders. Fine. It seems like a copout to me. How can you defend a system when you do not know what the F**K (Im I doing this right?) is going on?

  Regarding the "Its Simons board" crowd, that does not mitigate any of the issues here and this mantra sounds sooooo Dubish.

  I assumed (wrongly?) that the very fact that Simon has sought donations to help keep the board running is a sign of community trust. This in fact, gives many persons a "stake" on this operation by their monetary contributions, making it more of a public effort. Like stock holders. So, Simon has some responsibility to his stock holders, IMHO.To just allow donations without considerations is wrong, IMHO. And on the whole Simon is doing a good job. I have never read anywhere this is what Simon thinks "Its my board, leave." (I may be wrong).

  Edited by - thichi on 22 August 2002 12:53:25

  Edited by - thichi on 22 August 2002 12:56:54
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  Deleting A Poster Akin To DF'ing?

  by Englishman in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i recently got an email from mr. moe.

  amongst other things, she says that she hated df'ing when she was a dub, so she abhores the banning of certain posters from this site, because it seems so similar to df'ing.. i think her opinion is of great value and warrants looking at closely.

  is suspending someone for the contents of their posts justifiable then?

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  ThiChi

  E-Man:

  As a moderator, I would recommend that you read all posts that fall under your watch. As you know, many insults, profanity and other uncivil actions poor over to other topics.

  Simon:

  I have no ulterior motive regarding Fred. I ask, in the spirit of forgiveness, to please re-activate Fred. Though I know he was removed for good reasons, based on the "Fred e-mails" postings of late, I believe he gets the point. And as you know, there were some extenuating circumstances that should be considered.

  I believe that the goal here is to correct mistakes, not to punish. I dont think Fred will make the same mistake. Give him that chance, please?
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  Deleting A Poster Akin To DF'ing?

  by Englishman in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i recently got an email from mr. moe.

  amongst other things, she says that she hated df'ing when she was a dub, so she abhores the banning of certain posters from this site, because it seems so similar to df'ing.. i think her opinion is of great value and warrants looking at closely.

  is suspending someone for the contents of their posts justifiable then?

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  ThiChi

  Your "Point" of this topic seems to be just a rationalization of what has transpired this last week, which in fact proves my point. Defending the undefendable, IMHO.

  As a moderator, did you address most (I wont even say "all" in fairness) "uncivil" remarks, putdowns, insults, cuss words, etc., etc., equally? A review of the past week shows that they were not, IMHO. How many Pro Dubs got the editing/disfellowshipping treatment compared to the non/ex Dubs? When you look at what was said on both sides, I believe the numbers are very telling.

  Dont get me wrong, I am not trying to attack you (I truly enjoy your posts and respect you as a person), I am just trying to point out that how things have been handled in the past, and how they could be addressed differently in the future.

  Did you see that post of "YK as a doll" with his head up his ass? As a moderator, what would you recommend? How would this fly down at the Pub? Also, please respond to my other questions in my last reply.........

  PS: reinstate Fred, give the guy a chance. Please?

  Edited by - thichi on 22 August 2002 12:6:44

  Edited by - thichi on 22 August 2002 12:9:46
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  Deleting A Poster Akin To DF'ing?

  by Englishman in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i recently got an email from mr. moe.

  amongst other things, she says that she hated df'ing when she was a dub, so she abhores the banning of certain posters from this site, because it seems so similar to df'ing.. i think her opinion is of great value and warrants looking at closely.

  is suspending someone for the contents of their posts justifiable then?

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  ThiChi

  HS: You are right, however, they represent their version of shunning as based on the Bible, so as such, is fair and just. Truly a mis-representation of what the Bible has in fact recorded.

  Also, the contract you agreed to by your baptism has been "adjusted" from time to time without our permission. Is that fair?

  Notwithstanding, the rules are applied differently depending on your standing with "Men in Authority." So IMHO, Radar makes some valid points...........
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  Deleting A Poster Akin To DF'ing?

  by Englishman in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i recently got an email from mr. moe.

  amongst other things, she says that she hated df'ing when she was a dub, so she abhores the banning of certain posters from this site, because it seems so similar to df'ing.. i think her opinion is of great value and warrants looking at closely.

  is suspending someone for the contents of their posts justifiable then?

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  ThiChi

  E-man: then apply the rules fairly. Should the rules only apply if you have been a victim of molestation? Should non/ex -Dubs get away with posting a pic of YK as having his head up his ass with impunity? Where are your Pub rules now?

  Everyone wants a civil board. However, if rules exists, then apply them fairly. Sir, you have failed your own test, IMHO. Can you at least admit that?

  PS: Simon's reinstating (for lack of a better word) BBoy was a good first step. How about fred?

  Edited by - thichi on 22 August 2002 11:30:18