Ethos

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  Question?

  by Ethos in

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  first of all i'd like to apologize on behalf of my "college dropout" thread.

  i intimated it as a humorous and somewhat true form of sattire.

  i didn't think people here would take it so seriously and literally.

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  Ethos

  All I wanted is YOUR opinions/perspective beyond the horse beaten 'WT is a cult' cliches. If there isnt one answer, write several. Its a perspective question, so there doesnt have to be ONE answer. I want to know what *REAL* problems affected *REAL* people. I'm trying to make amends for any blunder feigned on my part and I'm conveying an interest in you beyond the superficial theological 'im right you're wrong' perspective. If a discussion is ever realized, you will NEVER hear me say I won the debate. I could care less.

  My goal for being here? Intellectual growth in understanding human beings and at the same time making sure I do not let anything in my religion go unchecked or unnoticed. I cannot consent to ignorance at this point in my life.
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  Question?

  by Ethos in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  first of all i'd like to apologize on behalf of my "college dropout" thread.

  i intimated it as a humorous and somewhat true form of sattire.

  i didn't think people here would take it so seriously and literally.

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  Ethos

  So people would rather be pedantic about the miniscule details of the question and instead pick it apart and not just simply answer the question.
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  Question?

  by Ethos in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  first of all i'd like to apologize on behalf of my "college dropout" thread.

  i intimated it as a humorous and somewhat true form of sattire.

  i didn't think people here would take it so seriously and literally.

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  Read the fine print, Outlaw. I said WHICH topic would wake a JW up, not what a person would say. Most people here didnt 'figure it out own their own'. Sure they had doubts/questions but the Internet had a significant role.

  No it wasnt covered....the question also asks what JWN would like to see discussed. Obviously everyone has their own tipping point, but that thread was obviously more of a copious gang-up against me, rather than a consensual survey. Come on guys, read closely and dont be so quick to try to insult /dismantle what I said.
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  Question?

  by Ethos in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  first of all i'd like to apologize on behalf of my "college dropout" thread.

  i intimated it as a humorous and somewhat true form of sattire.

  i didn't think people here would take it so seriously and literally.

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  Ethos

  First of all I'd like to apologize on behalf of my "college dropout" thread. I intimated it as a humorous and SOMEWHAT true form of sattire. I didn't think people here would take it so seriously and literally. There were obvious inequivalences, of which I INFERRED the readers would subconsciously assume. I feel that perhaps it contused the reputation I had scarcely had by giving credence to stereotypes and perceptions that I'm yet another troll JW apologist who lacks ability to think critically and argue coherently. So if you're willing to take me and what I say in consideration once more, I'd like to really prove myself. I'm not that dense nor am I so shallow and given to misconcept as it perhaps came across. So I will put more effort into cohesive and serious posts henceforth.

  So I'd like to take a poll: Which topic would you like to see a JW discuss most? Another way of putting it, what topic do you think would undoubtedly cause him to wake up to 'the truth about the truth'.

  Evolution, 607, 1914, blood, Trinity brochure, the name Jehovah, child abuse, disfelowshipping, etc.?

  or maybe something that lead you to become an atheist or convert to another religion.
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  A letter from a College Dropout

  by Ethos in

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  dear harvard university,.

  i have decided go leave this institution of education.

  let me explain why.

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  Ethos

  Dont forget to cross out story teller.
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  A letter from a College Dropout

  by Ethos in

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  dear harvard university,.

  i have decided go leave this institution of education.

  let me explain why.

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  Ethos

  Oh yeah dont forget to point out at Harvard you can choose to leave anytime you want and you still have your friends and family. But if you leave the WTS, you are shunned. Really pointing out obvious things like this and being pedantic about every little statement of the illustration is a sign of debility, not the intellectual prowess you're trying to flaunt by disproving my point. It shows that when you read it, you used no critical thinking skills to make reasonable or implied inferences.

  Sad.
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  A letter from a College Dropout

  by Ethos in

  1. jw
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  dear harvard university,.

  i have decided go leave this institution of education.

  let me explain why.

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  Ethos

  I think this thread illustrates quite clearly that people here take things a wee bit too seriously. A humorous, slightly metaphorical sattire has been dissected, overanalyzed, and argued against as if I intimated it to be some grandiose illustration. I'm honestly surprised someone didnt log on to Harvard's website and show me I didnt reach the required length or tell me you dont even write letters. Good grief! Obviously the illustration isnt completely equivocal to what happens as a JW. It's a comparison, and the humorous alliteration should have made that obvious. You dont have to point out that you are not literally shunned and not spoken to if youre expelled. And then people are so bent on tooting their own intellectual horns, that they point out obvious inequivalencies that are obvious to all who used their brain when they read it?

  i hope you're proud that youve dismantled my little argument. Whatever you have to do yo boost your own ego and self esteem.
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  Ethos (and all still mentally in): Truth, Tipping Points and Standards

  by NeverKnew in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  if this is "the truth," why has the information provided over the years contained so many errors?

  at what point does "error" become "outright lie" for you?

  how high (or low) are your standards for your spiritual leaders?

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  Ethos

  It's hard to argue coherently and really want to put out serious, strong arguments when your confined to such a miniscule posting limit. I can't argue/defend anything I write (not much anyway), so I'm not putting that much effort just yet. I didn't realize this until I started my own thread. I elicit all these responses and can hardly respond to them before reaching a posting limit. So right now, I'm just trying to have a little fun with it and respond to tidbits here and there. I'll atone, I'll atone.

  And yes, jookbeard, I'll be discussing all those issues (in a serious manner though)
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  Ethos (and all still mentally in): Truth, Tipping Points and Standards

  by NeverKnew in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  if this is "the truth," why has the information provided over the years contained so many errors?

  at what point does "error" become "outright lie" for you?

  how high (or low) are your standards for your spiritual leaders?

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  Ethos

  Core doctrines that havent changed: The importance of using and sanctifying God's name, Jehovah. The role of Jesus Christ not as God Almighty, but God's son who will rule as King of Gods Kingdom fof 1,000 years. God is not nor has he ever been a pagan Trinity god. God does not torture souls forever and ever in a fiery hell. The soul is not immortal. The dead are unconscious. The value of Christ's ransom sacrifice. The importance of political neutrality and not participating in wars. The responsibility of true Christians to preach to everyone and not leave it to a paid clergy class. Advocating the urgency of the times and the parousia of Christ. I could go on but I think this is sufficient.
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  A letter from a College Dropout

  by Ethos in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  dear harvard university,.

  i have decided go leave this institution of education.

  let me explain why.

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  Ethos

  Obviously Marvin has never been to university. Whatever's in the textbook is on the test. You will fail the class if you fail the tests. Arguing with the professor about something wrong in his textbook will get you nowhere. Violate the rules and you are kicked out. What a cult!

  And the GB have never claimed to have any special ability. They never said their every word is error free. Really they flat out tell you all they do is read the Bible like the rest of us. No conversations with Jesus or miraculous visions. Even the Bible tells us Gods people would have to be refined of their BEFOULED GARMENTS (errors). So we have no special ability, Bible prophecy telling us they would have things wrong and people cant get over quotes from a 100 years ago. Amazing. While youre at it, why dont you quote a medical dictionary about blacks being genetically inferior to show us just one of the many things doctors have changed?